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tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
July 29 2020 15:28 GMT
#301
DRG's performance today bodes extremely well for SC2. It shows that players can remain super competitive as they age. DRG said in the post-match interview that he analyzes a lot of games, especially Serral's, so I think maybe since older players can't physically sit at a computer and hammer out as many games as the fresh ones, they can still at least do some very deep analysis of games to compensate; and perhaps, this may even be the superior approach to SC2.

I was very much into DRG pre-LotV, but now I'm even a bigger fan than ever. I hope he continues to perform at this level through the playoffs.
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria888 Posts
July 29 2020 15:50 GMT
#302
On July 29 2020 08:45 ssg wrote:
There are actually ar least 7 people in the year of our lord 2020 who think drg will beat innovation. He wont even take a game. This could be the most lopsided round matchup in history.


This did not age well...
Livin' this life like it was written.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4378 Posts
July 29 2020 15:51 GMT
#303
On July 29 2020 23:30 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 23:07 looken wrote:
On July 29 2020 22:33 JJH777 wrote:
On July 29 2020 21:13 kajtarp wrote:
On July 29 2020 20:56 sneakyfox wrote:
#Terranpatch indeed.

We're getting ZvZvPvP semifinals.


Don't blame the patch when it was clearly the skill gap between players.


It's always the skill gap when Zerg is winning and yet win Terran over performs in a single event for the first time in 3 years (and no Maru winning GSLs is not a Terran over performance when every other Terran is doing terribly) it is immediately the strongest race according to both the majority of TL and 90% of Reddit.

Why do ppl never count Maru!? He has feelings too you know!! =/

And i mean come on, Dream was by far the weakest player in this Ro8. Inno vs DRG was a surprise though, I give you that

There also is a difference between having 2 players in ro8 those going into the ro4 vs having 5 players in the ro8 and 3 players in ro4, not saying i don't think is pretty good overall, but that is still a very valid reason to say a race is pretty good right now.


One tournament is never enough to say a race is the strongest unless something insane happens like them taking all of the top 8. ESL season finals, GSL S2, TSL 5, and Stay at homestory cup 2 have proven that people dramatically over reacted to the results of GSL season 1. It's also absurd that people even reacted that way to start with when we just had IEM end in a PvZ finals right before GSL season 1. Terran is absolutely not the best race currently. It is still Zerg. Terran has maybe moved up to number 2 rather than number 3 as they were in 2018 and 2019 but I'm not even convinced of that yet.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
July 29 2020 15:57 GMT
#304
On July 30 2020 00:16 RKC wrote:
Even Maru has been playing passive and trying to out-macro Zerg. Is there something the pros know that we're missing?

Looking more like a PvZ finals now


The classic Maru playstyle (take the one he used to beat Dark in super tourn. finals) is very taxing physically. If he has injury problems I dont blame him trying to approach the games more passively, but with the current meta, maps and overall strenght of Zerg, Bio is not viable at all. I think he could have beaten Solar if he went mech like Dream did.
DRG and Rogue are a whole another level though. I dont think there is a Terran out there who could win if the Zergs are playing this good.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
July 29 2020 16:12 GMT
#305
DRG's recent results must be some of the most impressive from someone returning to the game after a long absence in SC2 history. Seriously incredible!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
July 29 2020 16:15 GMT
#306
Hey go go DRG! I was hoping he'd repeat his defeat of innovation as he did back in the day of Innovation's apparent invincibility.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Velitey
Profile Joined September 2016
Canada13 Posts
July 29 2020 16:18 GMT
#307
On July 30 2020 00:57 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2020 00:16 RKC wrote:
Even Maru has been playing passive and trying to out-macro Zerg. Is there something the pros know that we're missing?

Looking more like a PvZ finals now


The classic Maru playstyle (take the one he used to beat Dark in super tourn. finals) is very taxing physically. If he has injury problems I dont blame him trying to approach the games more passively, but with the current meta, maps and overall strenght of Zerg, Bio is not viable at all. I think he could have beaten Solar if he went mech like Dream did.
DRG and Rogue are a whole another level though. I dont think there is a Terran out there who could win if the Zergs are playing this good.


I wouldn't go as far as saying 'bio is not viable at all'...
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 16:33:38
July 29 2020 16:32 GMT
#308
On July 30 2020 00:28 tigon_ridge wrote:
DRG's performance today bodes extremely well for SC2. It shows that players can remain super competitive as they age. DRG said in the post-match interview that he analyzes a lot of games, especially Serral's, so I think maybe since older players can't physically sit at a computer and hammer out as many games as the fresh ones, they can still at least do some very deep analysis of games to compensate; and perhaps, this may even be the superior approach to SC2.

I was very much into DRG pre-LotV, but now I'm even a bigger fan than ever. I hope he continues to perform at this level through the playoffs.


I think the idea that age impacts a player's performances is really overblown. Talking about DRG as an old man is silly. Boredom, moving on with life, military service (for koreans), lack of motivation during a slump, general lack of team structure in Sc2... there is a long list of things that i'd put above "old age" in a "top reasons why a player isn't as sharp as he used to be"-list for a 29y/o player like DRG. I think we've yet to see a game of Starcraft 2 where people go "too bad, he could have pulled that off if he was younger" while reasonably discarding a multitude of other factors could be the reason why said "old player" could have lost.
rly ?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 29 2020 16:35 GMT
#309
What the heck happened to Innovation? Are the matches worth watching?
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BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic614 Posts
July 29 2020 16:53 GMT
#310
i just lost interest on playing ladder due to zerg being so op, i mean literally they just need to hide behind the tanky queen while dronin up to 80, while i'm still cleaning free creep tumors that need to cost mineral to balance the game economy wise...

i mean zerg just do lings banes to deal with anything the terran does... how is that balance?

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inky13112
Profile Joined July 2020
3 Posts
July 29 2020 16:54 GMT
#311
Love love love it. I just love to see OP terran lose. I was really scared when I saw the short video time on the VODs cause I thought stupid terran was gonna smash but then it turned out so great! I just hope terran never wins again and we can enter into an age where only Z and P are competitive
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 29 2020 17:05 GMT
#312
What in the FUCK, DRG. Very impressive.
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
July 29 2020 17:05 GMT
#313
On July 30 2020 01:35 The_Templar wrote:
What the heck happened to Innovation? Are the matches worth watching?

Nothing fancy happened but interesting nonetheless if you're into solid zerg players who don't show a crack in their defense while carrying out ferocious aggressions
rly ?
inky13112
Profile Joined July 2020
3 Posts
July 29 2020 17:08 GMT
#314
Not sure how to edit, to clarify my above post, I do want Protoss to be buffed because zerg does seem a little too good against protoss and the gloves all in meta is a bit boring. I just want terran to have to deal with not always being able to at any point in the game have the best army, and it looks like zerg has really started to solve that, so looking forward to terran not winning all the time. DRG hype!
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
July 29 2020 17:09 GMT
#315
What the HELL DRG! What a monster, the games never looked close. The only man in his thirties and in the semis, and it's not like INno played bad at all. PartinG vs DRG finals in 2020?!
Mine gas, build tanks.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 17:11:17
July 29 2020 17:10 GMT
#316
On July 30 2020 01:54 inky13112 wrote:
Love love love it. I just love to see OP terran lose. I was really scared when I saw the short video time on the VODs cause I thought stupid terran was gonna smash but then it turned out so great! I just hope terran never wins again and we can enter into an age where only Z and P are competitive

Terran stupid!
Mine gas, build tanks.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 17:11:37
July 29 2020 17:10 GMT
#317
On July 30 2020 02:10 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2020 01:54 inky13112 wrote:
Love love love it. I just love to see OP terran lose. I was really scared when I saw the short video time on the VODs cause I thought stupid terran was gonna smash but then it turned out so great! I just hope terran never wins again and we can enter into an age where only Z and P are competitive

Terran stupid!

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Mine gas, build tanks.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 17:34:40
July 29 2020 17:32 GMT
#318
Damn we really had one season of terran and now it's back to zerg winning everything. So much has changed over the last three years but still feels like nothing has.

Guess terran needed the bunker CC bug after all
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13969 Posts
July 29 2020 18:43 GMT
#319
On July 30 2020 00:16 RKC wrote:
Even Maru has been playing passive and trying to out-macro Zerg. Is there something the pros know that we're missing?

Looking more like a PvZ finals now

If it makes you feel better TY wins the GSL if he beats PartinG.
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4378 Posts
July 29 2020 19:26 GMT
#320
On July 30 2020 03:43 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2020 00:16 RKC wrote:
Even Maru has been playing passive and trying to out-macro Zerg. Is there something the pros know that we're missing?

Looking more like a PvZ finals now

If it makes you feel better TY wins the GSL if he beats PartinG.


It's not impossible but what results really point towards that happening? TY has looked poor in everything he's played in lately and lost to DRG in the ro16. Stats looked very good vs Cure.
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