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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 18 2020 07:36 GMT
#181
I caught the last game and Dark played pretty poopy. Hopefuly it's just a rough patch (pun unintended) and not carpal tunnel.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 18 2020 07:58 GMT
#182
Inno machine learning calculated that 2nd place has ez-man bracket
gg no re thx
S1ngularity
Profile Joined August 2019
Canada9 Posts
July 18 2020 08:14 GMT
#183
On July 18 2020 16:25 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 16:22 pvsnp wrote:
On July 18 2020 16:22 Anc13nt wrote:
glad INnoVation made it out but it's a shame that Dark has kind of fallen off. He doesn't really look like a top 10 player anymore tbh.


At a guess I imagine his wrists are still bothering him. He was hospitalized a few months back, and since then he said on stream that he's not pushing himself too hard to avoid aggravating the injury.


makes sense that he is planning long term. he's one of the younger players so it's a sacrifice worth making. That said, I feel like the korean zergs have fallen off quite badly and it seems pretty to me that Reynor and Serral are the best zergs and probably the best players atm if I'm being honest.


I mean EU doesn't have terrans or protosses on the same level as their zergs, so neither of them are going to fall off any time soon until the other two races over there figure out how to close the gap.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 18 2020 08:48 GMT
#184
Dark looking pretty poor. Especially compared to that Bo5 against Maru.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
July 18 2020 09:32 GMT
#185
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
July 18 2020 09:33 GMT
#186
I really didn't think we'd get parting of all protosses in the ro8 (esp after His Play in dh), tho i also think inno threw Game 1 vs him pretty hard by taking some atrocious fights.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 18 2020 09:40 GMT
#187
Damn Parting, ggs!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 09:52:35
July 18 2020 09:52 GMT
#188
On July 18 2020 18:32 Argonauta wrote:
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast

Rogue has individual tournament runs that are amazing, but in between he does terribly. Like this year winning Katowice and getting eliminated in the first round of Code S and not getting into the Super Tournament at all. Don't think it's that much of a stretch when Tasteless calls the more consistent player who also has tournament wins in the same time span (including Blizzcon) better.
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 10:28:41
July 18 2020 10:28 GMT
#189
On July 18 2020 18:52 Elentos wrote:
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On July 18 2020 18:32 Argonauta wrote:
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast

Rogue has individual tournament runs that are amazing, but in between he does terribly. Like this year winning Katowice and getting eliminated in the first round of Code S and not getting into the Super Tournament at all. Don't think it's that much of a stretch when Tasteless calls the more consistent player who also has tournament wins in the same time span (including Blizzcon) better.


for Rogue it's usually ro32, ro8 or win lol
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2751 Posts
July 18 2020 10:28 GMT
#190
The first game of Parting/inno was so great.
The tvz were pretty lames, not a great showing for Dark.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
July 18 2020 10:54 GMT
#191
On July 18 2020 18:52 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 18:32 Argonauta wrote:
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast

Rogue has individual tournament runs that are amazing, but in between he does terribly. Like this year winning Katowice and getting eliminated in the first round of Code S and not getting into the Super Tournament at all. Don't think it's that much of a stretch when Tasteless calls the more consistent player who also has tournament wins in the same time span (including Blizzcon) better.



True, but besides Blizzcon, Dark hasnt enjoy thatm uch success neither since his GSL
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33466 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 11:03:34
July 18 2020 11:03 GMT
#192
On July 18 2020 19:54 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 18:52 Elentos wrote:
On July 18 2020 18:32 Argonauta wrote:
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast

Rogue has individual tournament runs that are amazing, but in between he does terribly. Like this year winning Katowice and getting eliminated in the first round of Code S and not getting into the Super Tournament at all. Don't think it's that much of a stretch when Tasteless calls the more consistent player who also has tournament wins in the same time span (including Blizzcon) better.



True, but besides Blizzcon, Dark hasnt enjoy thatm uch success neither since his GSL


I think that's a normal "success cadence" for most of SC2 history—Maru + Serral in 2018-2019 has just really skewed our perception.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 12:07:48
July 18 2020 12:06 GMT
#193
Dark smashed his way through Super Tournament, just edged out by Maru and finished 2nd.

It's a bit unfortunate that Dark had to meet Inno twice. Kudos to Parting defeating Inno, but PvT overall right now just looks... wonky and coin-flippy ala high-stakes poker due to Toss' AoE damage (nothing about balance, just saying that the games tend to hinge on 1-2 major engagements... then again, that's arguably the whole life story of SC2 PvT).

Hard to tell who would've won between Dark and Parting. Probably somewhat even.

So I don't think the results are too unexpected, the way they turned out. If Parting had lost to Inno and won Dark to clinch the spot, I would have been more surprised and convinced that Dark is 'slumping'....
gg no re thx
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 12:24:21
July 18 2020 12:19 GMT
#194
On July 18 2020 18:32 Argonauta wrote:
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast


Perhaps Rogue had some kind of bad "aura" ie his play styles that made spectators hated him so much that they never wished to put him as the top 3 best Zerg players either in 2019 or 2020 even though he kept winning the big tourneys.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
July 18 2020 12:29 GMT
#195
On July 18 2020 21:19 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 18:32 Argonauta wrote:
I kinda pains me to hear Tasteless said that Dark has been the best Korean zerg since the second half of 2019 since well Rogue won GSL S3 2019 and Katowice 2020. But i guess Tasteless doesn't watch SC2 anymore outside the matches he get paid to cast


Perhaps Rogue has some kind of bad "aura" ie his play styles that make spectators hated him so much that they never wished to put him as the top 3 best Zerg players either in 2019 or 2020 even though he kept winning the big tourneys.


It's more about the perception that he is a patchzerg whereas Dark has been consistently one of the best Zergs since 2016. Also he is often a very inconsistent player as people have said. Take early 2020 for example, he went and won Katowice only to lose in the first round of the gsl. When he won GSL season 3 last year he then got knocked out in the first round of the Super Tournament and then was knocked out in the quarterfinals of Blizzcon.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
July 18 2020 13:48 GMT
#196
Wow Dark not in Ro8. I’m bummed. Though I’m also happy Inno and Parting made it
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
July 18 2020 14:11 GMT
#197
On July 18 2020 16:15 pvsnp wrote:
Yknow I was gonna say that Inno keeps going for allins because he must think he can't win a macro game. Then he goes and dominates a macro game.

Also, I kinda suspect that Inno is very happy to be facing DRG instead of TY in the Ro8.

Yeah I'm expecting a clean 3-0 in that game...
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tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States516 Posts
July 18 2020 14:27 GMT
#198
On July 18 2020 16:17 Shathe wrote:
Remember when Dark had the best ZvT in the world and didnt lose to anyone for more than a year? Well thats gone. Obviously Terran is stronger now, but still pretty surprising.


Inno has had Dark's number for years.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 18 2020 14:31 GMT
#199
On July 18 2020 23:27 tskarzyn wrote:
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On July 18 2020 16:17 Shathe wrote:
Remember when Dark had the best ZvT in the world and didnt lose to anyone for more than a year? Well thats gone. Obviously Terran is stronger now, but still pretty surprising.


Inno has had Dark's number for years.

Dark is one of Inno's biggest nemeses, just check Aligulac. Dark won almost every series between them in LotV, this year is the first where he's mostly losing.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
July 18 2020 14:55 GMT
#200
Some interesting games today! To be honest I enjoyed most of the series, but I have to admit I was rooting against Parting, but he played pretty good PvT! Super hyped for the rematch between him and TY though, I feel like he tiled at least 2 games the last time they met...

Dark I would've loved for him to advance but the match up between Inno and DRG is really exciting

Ro8 shaping up to be great!
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