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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-02 16:59:13
August 02 2020 16:58 GMT
#921
I do not understand why Soul was just chilling in front of Reynor's natural instead of instantly attacking. There was a big runby in his own natural killing his workers and reinforcements. Before that he already had lost 8 workers to the baneling drop. It was obvious that he was hopelessly behind on eco and it was obvious that every passing second allows reynor to get more reinforcements while Soul's reinforcements were tied up in his own natural. I feel like the only option for still snatching a win was to do as much damage as fast as possible. Instead Soul just parked his army in front of Reynor's natural and was just poking with 5 or so marines shooting at a hatchery...
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-02 17:06:37
August 02 2020 17:06 GMT
#922
4g blink can be good but it feels so fragile sometimes. If youre not absolutely on point it just sucks.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
August 02 2020 17:12 GMT
#923
Well that's it for 4xS.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
August 02 2020 17:16 GMT
#924
Sad that a team having Stats can perform so badly.
Clément 화이팅
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18446 Posts
August 02 2020 17:17 GMT
#925
On August 03 2020 02:16 Calliope wrote:
Sad that a team having Stats can perform so badly.

Stats isn't doing too well himself. Bit surprising really.
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-02 17:18:28
August 02 2020 17:17 GMT
#926
On August 03 2020 00:33 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2020 00:31 whiterabbit wrote:
Did SortOf and souL lose all their matches up to now? I wonder if CatZ is regretting his EU picks. I kinda feel bad for soO and Stats. :/

SortOf won 1 game, souL is indeed winless. Although to be fair souL has had some awful luck. He's played Trap, Heromarine, Inno, Dear and Serral.


Ah he won against SuperNova, missed that one.
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
609 Posts
August 02 2020 17:24 GMT
#927
Day 4 reminders ::

Commentator
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
August 02 2020 19:38 GMT
#928
Would be pretty funny if soul continues to draw the ace of every team.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States839 Posts
August 03 2020 02:14 GMT
#929
Hot hell, and a with a Good God Damn. This tournament is fun to watch with the biased casters. A nice HSC esque laid back feel.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
August 03 2020 02:17 GMT
#930
It would be good if they ever do another War Chest Team League, that they implement some kind of ace player restriction like not being allowed to use the same ace player twice in a row.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 03 2020 02:31 GMT
#931
On August 03 2020 11:17 Zzoram wrote:
It would be good if they ever do another War Chest Team League, that they implement some kind of ace player restriction like not being allowed to use the same ace player twice in a row.


Would it be good? From events like Nation Wars it's pretty obvious that you get good viewership from people watching one player carry a team on their shoulders. Maybe it goes somewhat against the idea of a teamleague to watch Serral carrying his team repeatedly, but it's still what the viewers want to see. And with this format, someone other than Serral still does have to win. If you really wanted to weaken the power of the ace player you could make things a bo7 I guess.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
August 03 2020 02:47 GMT
#932
Catz seemed so demoralized At least my favorite team, NBNP, is at the top of the standings for now!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Sorathez
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia209 Posts
August 03 2020 04:45 GMT
#933
On August 03 2020 11:17 Zzoram wrote:
It would be good if they ever do another War Chest Team League, that they implement some kind of ace player restriction like not being allowed to use the same ace player twice in a row.

I'm not sure i like that restriction. Instead have them pick six players and play a Bo7 instead (Or hell, even 5 players, and play a Bo5, and if there's a draw then play an ace match). Either of those will heavily reduce the reliance on one player.
There's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep trying till you run out of cake.
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-03 11:46:25
August 03 2020 11:45 GMT
#934
I mean they also could do the same but with a extra player. You then have to decide 4 players that will play each other and the 5th will be the possible ace player. Meaning you have to choose if you want to let Serral play in the first few matches hoping your team doesnt go to the ace (as he then cant play) or keep Serral as the ace player for a particular match meaning his teammates need to atleast win 2 matches so that Serral gets to play the ace match, decisions.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7410 Posts
August 03 2020 13:57 GMT
#935
On July 19 2020 17:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Pure objective totally not subjective strength analysis of the teams:
S-tier: Placed top 2 in at least one premier tournament in 2020, is top-10 in Aligulac (Serral, Raynor, INnoVation, Maru, Cure, TY, SoO). 5 points per player.
Flexibility: Race diversity to work with on different maps. 10 points for a 2/1/1 race division, 7 for 2/2, 5 for 3/1 and no points for 4 shades of Protoss.
A+-tier: In the top 10 of Aligulac, but did not have a finals for a premier tournament this year. 4 points per player. (Stats, Clem)
A-tier: In the top 25 of Aligulac. 3 points per player.
B-tier: In the top 50 of Aligulac. 2 points per player.

Tiebreakers are decided by number of S-tier players, followed by A+-tier players, A-tier players and B-tier players.

Sorting by this completely and utterly objective rating that no one can possibly disagree with, we have the following rankings:
9. 4 Shades of Protoss - 8 points.
8. The Tank Toppers - 15 points.
7. War Pigs 20 points.
6. Benny and the Boys 21 points.
5. Sort of Soul Korea 21 points.
4. Call an Ambulance, but not for us 22 points.
3. No Brain no Pain 22 points.
2. The Dread Knights 23 points.
1. The Grubalubadubdubs 24 points.

Zombiegrub's team confirmed to win.


Obviously you forget S+ Tier, 10 Points : Serral , Reynor


9. 4 Shades of Protoss - 8 points.
8. The Tank Toppers - 15 points.
7. Benny and the Boys 21 points.
6. Sort of Soul Korea 21 points.
5. Call an Ambulance, but not for us 22 points.
4. The Dread Knights 23 points.
3. The Grubalubadubdubs 24 points.
2. War Pigs 25 points.
1. No Brain no Pain 27 points.

Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
183 Posts
August 03 2020 18:19 GMT
#936
I really like the way Catz interacts with his team, you can see that he's a team owner/manager.

Also love ZG bias , rotti/demu cheekiness and Nate's (fake) delusional persona.

All in all, great event, really enjoying!
Thanks to everyone involved, even the ones I haven't mentioned, like wardii's coordination that made the event really smooth and the players that keep playing even in the nights before their gsl matches.

<3
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7410 Posts
August 04 2020 13:25 GMT
#937
Yes this tournament really delivers!
Already hyped for Day 4
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
August 04 2020 15:11 GMT
#938
On August 03 2020 11:17 Zzoram wrote:
It would be good if they ever do another War Chest Team League, that they implement some kind of ace player restriction like not being allowed to use the same ace player twice in a row.


Nah it wouldn't make much sense.
I am for a archon match in the ace match tho, those games are nuts.
Too bad the pro lack too much of experience with this format tho (which makes it borderline impossible to set up unfortunatly) but at least most of them seem to really like it.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
August 04 2020 17:29 GMT
#939
On August 03 2020 22:57 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2020 17:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Pure objective totally not subjective strength analysis of the teams:
S-tier: Placed top 2 in at least one premier tournament in 2020, is top-10 in Aligulac (Serral, Raynor, INnoVation, Maru, Cure, TY, SoO). 5 points per player.
Flexibility: Race diversity to work with on different maps. 10 points for a 2/1/1 race division, 7 for 2/2, 5 for 3/1 and no points for 4 shades of Protoss.
A+-tier: In the top 10 of Aligulac, but did not have a finals for a premier tournament this year. 4 points per player. (Stats, Clem)
A-tier: In the top 25 of Aligulac. 3 points per player.
B-tier: In the top 50 of Aligulac. 2 points per player.

Tiebreakers are decided by number of S-tier players, followed by A+-tier players, A-tier players and B-tier players.

Sorting by this completely and utterly objective rating that no one can possibly disagree with, we have the following rankings:
9. 4 Shades of Protoss - 8 points.
8. The Tank Toppers - 15 points.
7. War Pigs 20 points.
6. Benny and the Boys 21 points.
5. Sort of Soul Korea 21 points.
4. Call an Ambulance, but not for us 22 points.
3. No Brain no Pain 22 points.
2. The Dread Knights 23 points.
1. The Grubalubadubdubs 24 points.

Zombiegrub's team confirmed to win.


Obviously you forget S+ Tier, 10 Points : Serral , Reynor


9. 4 Shades of Protoss - 8 points.
8. The Tank Toppers - 15 points.
7. Benny and the Boys 21 points.
6. Sort of Soul Korea 21 points.
5. Call an Ambulance, but not for us 22 points.
4. The Dread Knights 23 points.
3. The Grubalubadubdubs 24 points.
2. War Pigs 25 points.
1. No Brain no Pain 27 points.


While I doubt that having Serral or Reynor is worth 10 points, I Kind of agree with you, that it feels surreale to see 4S on the same lvl as nbnp or WarPigs...
My Top 4 pics, without such a scewed point System but based on my absolut unbiased opinion is:
Rotti
Pig
DeMuslim
Maynard
MaxPax
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7410 Posts
August 05 2020 11:41 GMT
#940
On August 05 2020 02:29 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2020 22:57 Harris1st wrote:
On July 19 2020 17:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Pure objective totally not subjective strength analysis of the teams:
S-tier: Placed top 2 in at least one premier tournament in 2020, is top-10 in Aligulac (Serral, Raynor, INnoVation, Maru, Cure, TY, SoO). 5 points per player.
Flexibility: Race diversity to work with on different maps. 10 points for a 2/1/1 race division, 7 for 2/2, 5 for 3/1 and no points for 4 shades of Protoss.
A+-tier: In the top 10 of Aligulac, but did not have a finals for a premier tournament this year. 4 points per player. (Stats, Clem)
A-tier: In the top 25 of Aligulac. 3 points per player.
B-tier: In the top 50 of Aligulac. 2 points per player.

Tiebreakers are decided by number of S-tier players, followed by A+-tier players, A-tier players and B-tier players.

Sorting by this completely and utterly objective rating that no one can possibly disagree with, we have the following rankings:
9. 4 Shades of Protoss - 8 points.
8. The Tank Toppers - 15 points.
7. War Pigs 20 points.
6. Benny and the Boys 21 points.
5. Sort of Soul Korea 21 points.
4. Call an Ambulance, but not for us 22 points.
3. No Brain no Pain 22 points.
2. The Dread Knights 23 points.
1. The Grubalubadubdubs 24 points.

Zombiegrub's team confirmed to win.


Obviously you forget S+ Tier, 10 Points : Serral , Reynor


9. 4 Shades of Protoss - 8 points.
8. The Tank Toppers - 15 points.
7. Benny and the Boys 21 points.
6. Sort of Soul Korea 21 points.
5. Call an Ambulance, but not for us 22 points.
4. The Dread Knights 23 points.
3. The Grubalubadubdubs 24 points.
2. War Pigs 25 points.
1. No Brain no Pain 27 points.


While I doubt that having Serral or Reynor is worth 10 points, I Kind of agree with you, that it feels surreale to see 4S on the same lvl as nbnp or WarPigs...
My Top 4 pics, without such a scewed point System but based on my absolut unbiased opinion is:
Rotti
Pig
DeMuslim
Maynard


Haha yes I agree with you. Was purely after the fact that Serral was 8:1 and Reynor 7:0. The next best single player was 5:2 I believe
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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