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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
June 24 2020 09:53 GMT
#21
On June 24 2020 18:52 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2020 18:37 sudete wrote:
Neeb reached the semis the last time he played GSL didn't he? And if I'm to believe what some 'experts' say, Astrea is better than Neeb nowadays despite the 500 aligulac point difference between the two


who on earth thinks astrea is better than neeb lol

well recent results at least make a debate acceptable
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
June 24 2020 09:54 GMT
#22
I'm sure Astrea could beat Pimpact if he has prepared something specifically for the series. It is simply the way of Smart Players to beat B tier korean zergs in offline tournaments
Year of MaxPax
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
June 24 2020 09:58 GMT
#23
On June 24 2020 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2020 18:52 BerserkSword wrote:
On June 24 2020 18:37 sudete wrote:
Neeb reached the semis the last time he played GSL didn't he? And if I'm to believe what some 'experts' say, Astrea is better than Neeb nowadays despite the 500 aligulac point difference between the two


who on earth thinks astrea is better than neeb lol

well recent results at least make a debate acceptable


Nah I been following them both for a while, cheering for them both since they are american. Astrea has a lot of potential but he isn't neeb level yet even a slumping neeb.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
June 24 2020 10:00 GMT
#24
On June 24 2020 18:58 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2020 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On June 24 2020 18:52 BerserkSword wrote:
On June 24 2020 18:37 sudete wrote:
Neeb reached the semis the last time he played GSL didn't he? And if I'm to believe what some 'experts' say, Astrea is better than Neeb nowadays despite the 500 aligulac point difference between the two


who on earth thinks astrea is better than neeb lol

well recent results at least make a debate acceptable


Nah I been following them both for a while, cheering for them both since they are american. Astrea has a lot of potential but he isn't neeb level yet even a slumping neeb.

Also Neeb was arguably way better then than he is now
MaxPax
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-24 10:03:00
June 24 2020 10:01 GMT
#25
Neeb made RO4 in gsl to say astrea is close to him is kinda ridiculous.. we have no idea what astreas peak could be, while neeb always has insane potential even in a slump imo
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
June 24 2020 10:03 GMT
#26
On June 24 2020 19:00 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2020 18:58 BerserkSword wrote:
On June 24 2020 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On June 24 2020 18:52 BerserkSword wrote:
On June 24 2020 18:37 sudete wrote:
Neeb reached the semis the last time he played GSL didn't he? And if I'm to believe what some 'experts' say, Astrea is better than Neeb nowadays despite the 500 aligulac point difference between the two


who on earth thinks astrea is better than neeb lol

well recent results at least make a debate acceptable


Nah I been following them both for a while, cheering for them both since they are american. Astrea has a lot of potential but he isn't neeb level yet even a slumping neeb.

Also Neeb was arguably way better then than he is now


no doubt in my mind about that
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
June 24 2020 10:03 GMT
#27
On June 24 2020 18:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2020 18:52 BerserkSword wrote:
On June 24 2020 18:37 sudete wrote:
Neeb reached the semis the last time he played GSL didn't he? And if I'm to believe what some 'experts' say, Astrea is better than Neeb nowadays despite the 500 aligulac point difference between the two


who on earth thinks astrea is better than neeb lol

well recent results at least make a debate acceptable


I think it has to do with expectations. When Astrea beats a player like Showtime, Heromarine or Elazer, people say "wow he is really popping off with these mad results". When Neeb does the same, it's a bit more like "maybe he isn't so washed up after all, but he is nowhere near his old self".

On average, Neeb's slump-city form is still 6800 mmr and a 65-70% winrate but people gloss over the matches that he 'should' win and does win.

Add that to the fact that Astrea's strongest matchup is pvp (by some distance) and Neeb's weakest matchup is pvp (also by some distance), and it's fair to say that Astrea has a shot in a match against Neeb. But on the basis of average performance, the gap is still sizeable. We'll see how DH goes for them
Year of MaxPax
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-24 10:04:29
June 24 2020 10:04 GMT
#28
What's up with Neeb anyway? Any personal issues why he's slumping?

Maybe such is the nature of Protoss - even Zest, sOs and Stats have deep slumps. The meta? The patches?
gg no re thx
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
June 24 2020 10:06 GMT
#29
On June 24 2020 19:04 RKC wrote:
What's up with Neeb anyway? Any personal issues why he's slumping?

Maybe such is the nature of Protoss - even Zest, sOs and Stats have deep slumps. The meta? The patches?

Neebs best playstyle (ultra late skytoss) got hard nerfed
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
June 24 2020 10:08 GMT
#30
On June 24 2020 19:04 RKC wrote:
What's up with Neeb anyway? Any personal issues why he's slumping?

Maybe such is the nature of Protoss race - even Zest, sOs and Stats have deep slumps. The meta? The patches?


Future made an account called "NeebPlayCSGO"

But on a more serious note, Neeb does well whenever protoss has stronger defensive capabilities. The last patch was generally not great for protoss, and neeb started adopting an unreasonably aggressive playstyle during the worst period of his slump (TSL qualifiers). I think it's reasonable to expect that he will do better this patch
Year of MaxPax
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
June 24 2020 10:09 GMT
#31
On June 24 2020 19:06 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2020 19:04 RKC wrote:
What's up with Neeb anyway? Any personal issues why he's slumping?

Maybe such is the nature of Protoss - even Zest, sOs and Stats have deep slumps. The meta? The patches?

Neebs best playstyle (ultra late skytoss) got hard nerfed

He's pretty good at shading adepts too.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
June 24 2020 10:12 GMT
#32
This is a SICK PvZ so far.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
June 24 2020 10:15 GMT
#33
It's great to see dark adding so much dynamic defence in the form of spore runners
Year of MaxPax
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
June 24 2020 10:15 GMT
#34
"That stupid cloud thing." Tastosis have forgotten the name "Microbial Shroud". Someone highlight this.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
June 24 2020 10:17 GMT
#35
Did I just see microbial shroud being casted?
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
June 24 2020 10:17 GMT
#36
Astrea has too many probes now.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 24 2020 10:17 GMT
#37
On June 24 2020 19:15 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
"That stupid cloud thing." Tastosis have forgotten the name "Microbial Shroud". Someone highlight this.


That stupid cloud thing is in fact the correct nomenclature
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
June 24 2020 10:17 GMT
#38
Wait does the stupid cloud work on buildings? It could actually be used here.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
June 24 2020 10:18 GMT
#39
S H R O U D
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
June 24 2020 10:18 GMT
#40
no OMG INSANE MICROBIAL SHROUDS TASTELESS? smh tastosis lost their passion
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