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On November 20 2019 17:38 TaKeTV wrote:
Hello.
I can confirm the following
Group swap from day 1 and day 2. Both evening groups are swapped:
B (Serral, Special, Showtime, uThermal, PtitDrogo, Kelazhur, Bly, MarinelorD moved to Friday
D (Reynor, INnoVation, Parting, Heromarine, Harstem, MaNa, SortOf, Denver) moved to Thursday
So a 1:1 swap. Thanks!
Hey,
can you explain me what is logic behind invitees usualy?
I am a little angry you didn't invited Special, who is probably top1 or top3 terran in Circuit, and you invited soul, sortof, zanster and tlo who are by all criterias mediocre players at their best. If Special can come now, he would come at first for sure.
I am big fan of your work but I can't agree with invites. I think you missed to invite few more great players and kick out those who will serve to entertain audience and boost map score for good players like Medoed in NW19. I hope that likes of Neeb or Masa refused invites and mediocres was just pure replacement but Special's case make me doubt it.
Good luck with cup, I can't wait for it.
p.s.please don't understand this as negative critic, I am absolute fan of HSC and your dedication!
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There are multiple possible reasons tbh... no need to be angry. Mostly travel costs I'd imagine. TY didn't participate so these stayed (about) the same for TakeTV I'd imagine.
As for other invites, those are no wish concert really. Check out the other thread in general forum or especially this post:
On November 16 2019 08:40 TaKeTV wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2019 03:15 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 06:41 Z3nith wrote:On November 15 2019 06:06 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:49 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 05:36 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 05:25 Seeker wrote:On November 15 2019 04:28 Musicus wrote:On November 15 2019 04:24 Seeker wrote:
Did Dark decline his invite? Indeed he did, didn't feel like going to Germany I think. I think NarutO said he was worried about language issues at well. Probably just wants a well deserved break. Language issues...? What about all the other Koreans going then? Gotta ask Dark that question :D Also, did Rogue decline his invite too? Yes, I just asked, Rogue was invited but declined. Out of curiosity who was invited but declined? Don't have a full list and don't want to bother Naruto with a full list either, but the big NA players declined as well for example. Maru too. You never bother, I just don't always see every post. Neeb, Special, Scarlett, Rogue, sOs, Maru, Classic, Dark, Stephano Neeb > wants to relax / avoid travel end of year Classic > military (asked for summer, same reason winter so I didnt ask) Special > schedule conflict Rogue > doesnt want to travel Dark > language barrier Maru > doesnt want to travel sOs > doesnt want to travel Scarlett > doesnt want to attend Stephano > university class he got , cant be skipped Namshar > private reason cannot attend (cancelled) probably forgot someone but thats it so far.
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On November 20 2019 22:20 JanDe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2019 17:38 TaKeTV wrote:
Hello.
I can confirm the following
Group swap from day 1 and day 2. Both evening groups are swapped:
B (Serral, Special, Showtime, uThermal, PtitDrogo, Kelazhur, Bly, MarinelorD moved to Friday
D (Reynor, INnoVation, Parting, Heromarine, Harstem, MaNa, SortOf, Denver) moved to Thursday
So a 1:1 swap. Thanks! Hey, can you explain me what is logic behind invitees usualy? I am a little angry you didn't invited Special, who is probably top1 or top3 terran in Circuit, and you invited soul, sortof, zanster and tlo who are by all criterias mediocre players at their best. If Special can come now, he would come at first for sure. I am big fan of your work but I can't agree with invites. I think you missed to invite few more great players and kick out those who will serve to entertain audience and boost map score for good players like Medoed in NW19. I hope that likes of Neeb or Masa refused invites and mediocres was just pure replacement but Special's case make me doubt it. Good luck with cup, I can't wait for it. p.s.please don't understand this as negative critic, I am absolute fan of HSC and your dedication!
Hey, so I am doing the invites mostly so this is very much directed at me. I don't take it as offence at all. SpeCial was invited beforehand as was Neeb, both declined for example. As for MaSa. I invited him in the past and he couldn't really make it ever since his team was never sending him if I remember correctly. Also he has no history with HSC so while I personally (NarutO) want to make an as good lineup as possible I can understand that others internally and audience also want a mix of personality, history etc.
So players like Taeja who isn't really insane right now gets invited due to being 3 time champion and you simply cant miss that. TLO has history all over HSC etc. There are a lot of reasons and I believe we have a very good mix, a lot more leaning towards skilled than funny actually this time.
So in the end as you can see its a matter of preference. If you would add all very good players but remove every player that actually goes and sits down on the couch, you remove a lot of what is HomeStoryCup. Also I want to point out since you named him, Zanster only went ouf the groups last time by 1 map if I remember correctly and could have taken one map vs Zest (which was needed) too.
Also as I said, while I personally lean towards making a great lineup, I believe I did that and I even wrote down a list of players who declined
In addition: We paid for I believe 9 Koreans + SpeCial last minute now, which is usually way over budget and is now as well but we wanted to make it special. (no pun intended)
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Thank you for clarifications, that's all I needed to hear. Good luck tomorrow and continue to do great work. I love you guys <3
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Group A huge group of death
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Head
A: Cure, Solar, Trap, TIME
D: Innovation, Reynor, HeroMarine, Harstem
Heart
A: Too many favorite players in one group to pick 
B: innovation, Parting, Harstem, Denver
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On November 20 2019 22:46 JanDe wrote:
Thank you for clarifications, that's all I needed to hear. Good luck tomorrow and continue to do great work. I love you guys <3
Edit: list was already posted above, didn't see it
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On November 20 2019 22:40 TaKeTV wrote:
There are a lot of reasons and I believe we have a very good mix, a lot more leaning towards skilled than funny actually this time.
So in the end as you can see its a matter of preference. If you would add all very good players but remove every player that actually goes and sits down on the couch, you remove a lot of what is HomeStoryCup. Also I want to point out since you named him, Zanster only went ouf the groups last time by 1 map if I remember correctly and could have taken one map vs Zest (which was needed) too.
Also as I said, while I personally lean towards making a great lineup, I believe I did that and I even wrote down a list of players who declined
It must be a challenging job for making up the lineup and organizing schedules etc. Thank you guys for that ! Its by far one of the greatest SC2 tournaments of the year for me. Cant wait to see stuff to get started.
What goes to the player selection, I think the heart of the HSC is the COUCH and random interviews/shenanigans all over the bar. If you would consider the level of play as an only criteria to select players, would the tournament be much duller and uninteresting for me and lot of other spectators too. Its always nice to see players more relaxed than in normal tournaments and interacting with fans and other players too. Same goes with commentating the matches (Please get MC back !!). All in all, im very happy for the lineup and wish you for a good and fun tournament once again. Hope I can participate in near future too.
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On November 20 2019 22:40 TaKeTV wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2019 22:20 JanDe wrote:On November 20 2019 17:38 TaKeTV wrote:
Hello.
I can confirm the following
Group swap from day 1 and day 2. Both evening groups are swapped:
B (Serral, Special, Showtime, uThermal, PtitDrogo, Kelazhur, Bly, MarinelorD moved to Friday
D (Reynor, INnoVation, Parting, Heromarine, Harstem, MaNa, SortOf, Denver) moved to Thursday
So a 1:1 swap. Thanks! Hey, can you explain me what is logic behind invitees usualy? I am a little angry you didn't invited Special, who is probably top1 or top3 terran in Circuit, and you invited soul, sortof, zanster and tlo who are by all criterias mediocre players at their best. If Special can come now, he would come at first for sure. I am big fan of your work but I can't agree with invites. I think you missed to invite few more great players and kick out those who will serve to entertain audience and boost map score for good players like Medoed in NW19. I hope that likes of Neeb or Masa refused invites and mediocres was just pure replacement but Special's case make me doubt it. Good luck with cup, I can't wait for it. p.s.please don't understand this as negative critic, I am absolute fan of HSC and your dedication! Hey, so I am doing the invites mostly so this is very much directed at me. I don't take it as offence at all. SpeCial was invited beforehand as was Neeb, both declined for example. As for MaSa. I invited him in the past and he couldn't really make it ever since his team was never sending him if I remember correctly. Also he has no history with HSC so while I personally (NarutO) want to make an as good lineup as possible I can understand that others internally and audience also want a mix of personality, history etc. So players like Taeja who isn't really insane right now gets invited due to being 3 time champion and you simply cant miss that. TLO has history all over HSC etc. There are a lot of reasons and I believe we have a very good mix, a lot more leaning towards skilled than funny actually this time. So in the end as you can see its a matter of preference. If you would add all very good players but remove every player that actually goes and sits down on the couch, you remove a lot of what is HomeStoryCup. Also I want to point out since you named him, Zanster only went ouf the groups last time by 1 map if I remember correctly and could have taken one map vs Zest (which was needed) too. Also as I said, while I personally lean towards making a great lineup, I believe I did that and I even wrote down a list of players who declined In addition: We paid for I believe 9 Koreans + SpeCial last minute now, which is usually way over budget and is now as well but we wanted to make it special. (no pun intended)
Thank you so much for making everything happen! HSC is a huge part of sc2 culture and this tournament is going to be epic
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Still massively disappointed that TY cancelled over a stupid passport. Hope I'm over it by tomorrow, this is still going to be amazing.
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Naruto, is there info anywhere why the change in round robin from bo3 to bo2? Is it just to save time or something else as well?
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On November 21 2019 04:23 Azhrak wrote:
Naruto, is there info anywhere why the change in round robin from bo3 to bo2? Is it just to save time or something else as well?
Makes every game matter more, since losing 1 means you automatically can't "win" the series
I don't know if that THE reason but it's a very interesting effect that I'm sure went into consideration
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On November 21 2019 04:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2019 04:23 Azhrak wrote:
Naruto, is there info anywhere why the change in round robin from bo3 to bo2? Is it just to save time or something else as well? Makes every game matter more, since losing 1 means you automatically can't "win" the series I don't know if that THE reason but it's a very interesting effect that I'm sure went into consideration
one of the reasons. Also its a nice change of pace, as well as better or easier to plan and we are limited on time since we have to end at midnight
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It will be a great event. I'm really gonna miss iNcontroL.
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Germany338 Posts
update on how the places in the groups get determined aka tie-breaker rules:
1. map difference (equivalent to map wins because maps won = 2 * diff + 7)
2. Head to Head (mini league if more than 2 players are tied)
3. Bo1 tie breaker match (round robin, if more than 2 players are tied)
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Lambo already mocking Korean protoss' style of play
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Starcraft just had its own #metoo moment
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Well,is the Tropical Island really a tropical island,or just a hotel called Tropical Island? 
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Hey, I have one suggestion for tiebreaker when everything else are tied: one extra match after both players are drunk, or simply a match of drinking beer.
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HOME STORY CUP! HOME STORY CUP!
So excited, not gonna sleep and miss the start tomorrow, yeah!
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