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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
November 02 2019 01:16 GMT
#1841
On November 02 2019 10:14 Weavel wrote:
Maru got stomped....hard


Serral faced soO.

Maru faced Dark.

Go ahead and talk to me some more about how the brackets were even.

Oh yea, Serral gets superior brackets because he is the #1 point earner because he plays in WCS.

Oh yes. Totally fair seeding. TOTALLY fair.

/s
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-02 01:17:13
November 02 2019 01:16 GMT
#1842
IMO, Terran is needed to provide interesting games - having a lack of Terran players should alarm Blizzard from the enjoyability perspective. TvZ, TvP and even TvT routinely have great games

Terran was balanced when the Korean Terran were at their peak. Now that the player base has declined, need to adjust the relative strength of the race with that in mind
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 02 2019 01:16 GMT
#1843
On November 02 2019 10:07 craigwt320 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:04 Schelim wrote:
On November 02 2019 10:04 geokilla wrote:
On November 02 2019 10:03 Schelim wrote:
On November 02 2019 10:02 Nakajin wrote:
I just realize it's already 9 pm and we are just halfway through this.

try 2am


Do you plan on sleeping?

well after Maru loses here i'll go to bed, not really that into ZvZ and ZvP currently. but i'll probably wake up early enough to catch some of the final anyway.


Since classic's builds are exposed, I can't see his chance to win dark, seems Dark vs Serral/Reynor confirmed. And I think Dark has no chance to beat Serral and little chance to beat Reynor, Foreinger will again win the blizzcon

i don't care for the patriotism, but yeah Serral winning seems even more of a foregone conclusion than it was before the tournament started.

good night everyone.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
November 02 2019 01:16 GMT
#1844
On November 02 2019 10:15 Obamarauder wrote:
took 2 years of only zergs winning and 0 foreigner terran/tosses, 0 korean terrans except maru to fix this dumb game.

come on you got to try a little harder than that
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
November 02 2019 01:16 GMT
#1845
On November 02 2019 10:15 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:15 Poopi wrote:
This game is just sad :D what has sc2 become :/

zergcraft


Dude, Serral is just so good at this game.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-02 01:17:34
November 02 2019 01:16 GMT
#1846
On November 02 2019 10:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:14 Weavel wrote:
Maru got stomped....hard


Serral faced soO.

Maru faced Dark.

Go ahead and talk to me some more about how the brackets were even.

Oh yea, Serral gets superior brackets because he is the #1 point earner because he plays in WCS.

Oh yes. Totally fair seeding. TOTALLY fair.

/s



Serral got soO because 6-0d the group him and Maru were in.

Maru got Dark because well.. he lost to TIME to start.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 02 2019 01:17 GMT
#1847
On November 02 2019 10:15 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:13 IMSupervisor wrote:
On November 02 2019 10:11 NotSoHappy wrote:
maru's playing like shit and people are balance whinning
just terrans i guess


What is he doing wrong?


Nothing, that's just the state of the meta. It doesn't help that Dark's ZvT is pretty much as close to perfect as humanly possible either though.


There's no way to save your CC vs roach ravager!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 02 2019 01:17 GMT
#1848
On November 02 2019 10:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:14 Weavel wrote:
Maru got stomped....hard


Serral faced soO.

Maru faced Dark.

Go ahead and talk to me some more about how the brackets were even.

Oh yea, Serral gets superior brackets because he is the #1 point earner because he plays in WCS.

Oh yes. Totally fair seeding. TOTALLY fair.

/s


Dark is the one that played Maru. Maru was the second worst player, so Dark "earn" a match against him
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
November 02 2019 01:18 GMT
#1849
On November 02 2019 10:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:14 Weavel wrote:
Maru got stomped....hard


Serral faced soO.

Maru faced Dark.

Go ahead and talk to me some more about how the brackets were even.

Oh yea, Serral gets superior brackets because he is the #1 point earner because he plays in WCS.

Oh yes. Totally fair seeding. TOTALLY fair.

/s


Serral was in a group with Maru, TIme and Stats...
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
November 02 2019 01:18 GMT
#1850
On November 02 2019 10:15 fgonzo wrote:
Hell yeah a 3 Zerg round of 4. I still don't understand the Zerg hate. Zerg outplayed Maru by pulling his attention away from the Nydus. Godlike play right there

This is true. That was a really smart play, pulling Maru's attention away.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
November 02 2019 01:18 GMT
#1851
uuugh, really ugly to see. Tbh this stomp wasnt normal at all. People saying Maru playing bad but his terran late game army control is bare to none. No terran stands a chance against zerg.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
November 02 2019 01:18 GMT
#1852
On November 02 2019 10:16 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:07 craigwt320 wrote:
On November 02 2019 10:04 Schelim wrote:
On November 02 2019 10:04 geokilla wrote:
On November 02 2019 10:03 Schelim wrote:
On November 02 2019 10:02 Nakajin wrote:
I just realize it's already 9 pm and we are just halfway through this.

try 2am


Do you plan on sleeping?

well after Maru loses here i'll go to bed, not really that into ZvZ and ZvP currently. but i'll probably wake up early enough to catch some of the final anyway.


Since classic's builds are exposed, I can't see his chance to win dark, seems Dark vs Serral/Reynor confirmed. And I think Dark has no chance to beat Serral and little chance to beat Reynor, Foreinger will again win the blizzcon

i don't care for the patriotism, but yeah Serral winning seems even more of a foregone conclusion than it was before the tournament started.

good night everyone.


Classic said he wanted ZvP, and that he chose that game 5 build instead of something else.

I expect he has more tricks up his sleeve.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
November 02 2019 01:18 GMT
#1853
On November 02 2019 10:15 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:11 NotSoHappy wrote:
maru's playing like shit and people are balance whinning
just terrans i guess


Terran was the least represented race in all stages tho, Maru was actually the terran that played the best considering he actually managed to reach blizzcon.


dude, this is lr thread not balance whinners unite thread
talk about the games and not sily, cherry picked arguments that lead to nowhere
i quoted you but im speaking to all silly whinners
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
November 02 2019 01:18 GMT
#1854
On November 02 2019 10:16 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:15 Obamarauder wrote:
took 2 years of only zergs winning and 0 foreigner terran/tosses, 0 korean terrans except maru to fix this dumb game.

come on you got to try a little harder than that


not even mad, everything so far was expected except classic winning. I would like to thank blizzard for giving me more time to sleep today
IMSupervisor
Profile Joined June 2016
Australia138 Posts
November 02 2019 01:18 GMT
#1855
On November 02 2019 10:15 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:13 IMSupervisor wrote:
On November 02 2019 10:11 NotSoHappy wrote:
maru's playing like shit and people are balance whinning
just terrans i guess


What is he doing wrong?


Nothing, that's just the state of the meta. It doesn't help that Dark's ZvT is pretty much as close to perfect as humanly possible either though.


That was my impression too but it seems that there are a lot here who think he is playing like shit but no one has actually identified anything Maru did wrong.
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
November 02 2019 01:18 GMT
#1856
On November 02 2019 10:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:14 Weavel wrote:
Maru got stomped....hard


Serral faced soO.

Maru faced Dark.

Go ahead and talk to me some more about how the brackets were even.

Oh yea, Serral gets superior brackets because he is the #1 point earner because he plays in WCS.

Oh yes. Totally fair seeding. TOTALLY fair.

/s


wasn't the bracket randomly drawn save for people from the same ro16 group not facing each other?
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 02 2019 01:18 GMT
#1857
On November 02 2019 10:17 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:15 yoshi245 wrote:
On November 02 2019 10:13 IMSupervisor wrote:
On November 02 2019 10:11 NotSoHappy wrote:
maru's playing like shit and people are balance whinning
just terrans i guess


What is he doing wrong?


Nothing, that's just the state of the meta. It doesn't help that Dark's ZvT is pretty much as close to perfect as humanly possible either though.


There's no way to save your CC vs roach ravager!


I do not know if there is a way to save a CC vs roach ravager, but i do believe that landing and morphing it right in their face is still the single worst action you possibly could make in that situation.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7160 Posts
November 02 2019 01:18 GMT
#1858
On November 02 2019 10:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:14 Weavel wrote:
Maru got stomped....hard


Serral faced soO.

Maru faced Dark.

Go ahead and talk to me some more about how the brackets were even.

Oh yea, Serral gets superior brackets because he is the #1 point earner because he plays in WCS.

Oh yes. Totally fair seeding. TOTALLY fair.

/s

Almost like group winners play vs group second placers ))
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-02 01:19:40
November 02 2019 01:18 GMT
#1859
On November 02 2019 10:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 10:14 Weavel wrote:
Maru got stomped....hard


Serral faced soO.

Maru faced Dark.

Go ahead and talk to me some more about how the brackets were even.

Oh yea, Serral gets superior brackets because he is the #1 point earner because he plays in WCS.

Oh yes. Totally fair seeding. TOTALLY fair.

/s


Maru would have got a better matchup had he not lost his group, no? So this isn't just about WCS vs GSL points...
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 02 2019 01:18 GMT
#1860
Oh no now all the starcraft girls will join the airforce
Neosteel Enthusiast
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