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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-17 08:06:20
August 17 2019 08:06 GMT
#181
Stats "accidentally" tried to load pornhub?
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
August 17 2019 08:06 GMT
#182
On August 17 2019 17:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On August 17 2019 16:58 Anc13nt wrote:
I feel like ZvT lategame looks imba to me right now. Feels like Terran is lacking in splash damage whereas zerg has fungal, parasitic bomb, etc. I'm not sure if that's true because I mainly am basing it off of Serral's games lol.


I wouldn't call it "imbalanced" because Terran does have the tools needed to beat Zerg in the late game.

It's just for sure a LOT harder to play Terran in the late game than it is to play Zerg, and TIME was playing the hardest variant of Terran late game, Ghost/Nuke.

BC play seems easier, like what Special used vs Reynor. The problem with that style though is that you have to open the game with the mindset of going for that later on. You can't easily transition to it, especially if you open with Bio.


yeah that makes sense to me. I didn't really watch the IEM games of Inno vs Serral so I haven't seen how to effectively pull off the ghost/nuke style for a while.
FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
August 17 2019 08:06 GMT
#183
Honestly I think the key issue is fungal's range.
TyInnoMaruByunAlive,TIMBA
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
August 17 2019 08:07 GMT
#184
On August 17 2019 17:06 Noonius wrote:
Stats "accidentally" tried to load pornhub?


srry I wasn't paying attention to stream. What happened lol
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 17 2019 08:07 GMT
#185
On August 17 2019 17:05 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 17:04 sneakyfox wrote:
What's going on with the liquibets? Last night they weren't ready for voting on, and now that I get up this morning they're already closed?

Feelsbadman


Yea, I couldn't vote too.


EU just got screwed out of this liquibet season. Damn
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
August 17 2019 08:08 GMT
#186
On August 17 2019 17:06 FBTsingLoong wrote:
Honestly I think the key issue is fungal's range.

The key issue is free units + spellcasters.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
August 17 2019 08:10 GMT
#187
On August 17 2019 17:06 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 17:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 17 2019 16:58 Anc13nt wrote:
I feel like ZvT lategame looks imba to me right now. Feels like Terran is lacking in splash damage whereas zerg has fungal, parasitic bomb, etc. I'm not sure if that's true because I mainly am basing it off of Serral's games lol.


I wouldn't call it "imbalanced" because Terran does have the tools needed to beat Zerg in the late game.

It's just for sure a LOT harder to play Terran in the late game than it is to play Zerg, and TIME was playing the hardest variant of Terran late game, Ghost/Nuke.

BC play seems easier, like what Special used vs Reynor. The problem with that style though is that you have to open the game with the mindset of going for that later on. You can't easily transition to it, especially if you open with Bio.


yeah that makes sense to me. I didn't really watch the IEM games of Inno vs Serral so I haven't seen how to effectively pull off the ghost/nuke style for a while.

and that style will become even moar popular once EMP gets buff but i find it kinda unnecessary and random tho.The one'd need help is raven
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16092 Posts
August 17 2019 08:10 GMT
#188
On August 17 2019 17:06 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 17:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 17 2019 16:58 Anc13nt wrote:
I feel like ZvT lategame looks imba to me right now. Feels like Terran is lacking in splash damage whereas zerg has fungal, parasitic bomb, etc. I'm not sure if that's true because I mainly am basing it off of Serral's games lol.


I wouldn't call it "imbalanced" because Terran does have the tools needed to beat Zerg in the late game.

It's just for sure a LOT harder to play Terran in the late game than it is to play Zerg, and TIME was playing the hardest variant of Terran late game, Ghost/Nuke.

BC play seems easier, like what Special used vs Reynor. The problem with that style though is that you have to open the game with the mindset of going for that later on. You can't easily transition to it, especially if you open with Bio.


yeah that makes sense to me. I didn't really watch the IEM games of Inno vs Serral so I haven't seen how to effectively pull off the ghost/nuke style for a while.


Ghost/Nuke was still relatively new (compared to now anyway) when Innovation beat Serral with it. Zergs have gotten a lot better against it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-17 08:11:48
August 17 2019 08:11 GMT
#189
On August 17 2019 17:07 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 17:05 Xain0n wrote:
On August 17 2019 17:04 sneakyfox wrote:
What's going on with the liquibets? Last night they weren't ready for voting on, and now that I get up this morning they're already closed?

Feelsbadman


Yea, I couldn't vote too.


EU just got screwed out of this liquibet season. Damn


I have firmly believed for years that LB's are just rigged against regular joe's
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16092 Posts
August 17 2019 08:12 GMT
#190
On August 17 2019 17:11 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 17:07 sneakyfox wrote:
On August 17 2019 17:05 Xain0n wrote:
On August 17 2019 17:04 sneakyfox wrote:
What's going on with the liquibets? Last night they weren't ready for voting on, and now that I get up this morning they're already closed?

Feelsbadman


Yea, I couldn't vote too.


EU just got screwed out of this liquibet season. Damn


I have firmly believed for years that LB's are just rigged against regular joe's


You would. You're just salty.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 17 2019 08:13 GMT
#191
On August 17 2019 17:11 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 17:07 sneakyfox wrote:
On August 17 2019 17:05 Xain0n wrote:
On August 17 2019 17:04 sneakyfox wrote:
What's going on with the liquibets? Last night they weren't ready for voting on, and now that I get up this morning they're already closed?

Feelsbadman


Yea, I couldn't vote too.


EU just got screwed out of this liquibet season. Damn


I have firmly believed for years that LB's are just rigged against regular joe's


It's completely meaningless too. The semis are not starting for many hours, why close voting now?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 17 2019 08:13 GMT
#192
Statsuuuu
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
531 Posts
August 17 2019 08:15 GMT
#193
Elazer, wow! I thought Elazer was done, but i stand corrected.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
August 17 2019 08:16 GMT
#194
Hmm to be honest the lategame TvZ still looks a bit Zerg favored. It just shows again that panic judgement from some of the users here is unjustified. Maru is just on another level in the MU compared to the other Terrans, so its only natural that against lesser Zergs (especially against Zergs that are really bad at lategame) the difference will be enormous. He isnt doing nearly as well against Dark on ladder.

The other Terrans though, they look to struggle no matter the comp they are using. The patch should really help in this regard, because the state of the game should not be about "Terran has a good chance if they have Maru level of mechanics and control".
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
August 17 2019 08:17 GMT
#195
On August 17 2019 17:13 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 17:11 Noonius wrote:
On August 17 2019 17:07 sneakyfox wrote:
On August 17 2019 17:05 Xain0n wrote:
On August 17 2019 17:04 sneakyfox wrote:
What's going on with the liquibets? Last night they weren't ready for voting on, and now that I get up this morning they're already closed?

Feelsbadman


Yea, I couldn't vote too.


EU just got screwed out of this liquibet season. Damn


I have firmly believed for years that LB's are just rigged against regular joe's


It's completely meaningless too. The semis are not starting for many hours, why close voting now?


Because they give the 4 possible semifinals, so if you vote when games have started you have an advantage
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
skdsk
Profile Joined February 2019
138 Posts
August 17 2019 08:19 GMT
#196
When is blizzard going to fix infestor bl? What can you even do as terran, TIME just didnt have a chance.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 17 2019 08:20 GMT
#197
On August 17 2019 17:17 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 17:13 sneakyfox wrote:
On August 17 2019 17:11 Noonius wrote:
On August 17 2019 17:07 sneakyfox wrote:
On August 17 2019 17:05 Xain0n wrote:
On August 17 2019 17:04 sneakyfox wrote:
What's going on with the liquibets? Last night they weren't ready for voting on, and now that I get up this morning they're already closed?

Feelsbadman


Yea, I couldn't vote too.


EU just got screwed out of this liquibet season. Damn


I have firmly believed for years that LB's are just rigged against regular joe's


It's completely meaningless too. The semis are not starting for many hours, why close voting now?


Because they give the 4 possible semifinals, so if you vote when games have started you have an advantage


Why does it matter? I now know that Elazer won but there were several scenarios to account for that anyway. It just makes some of the votes irrelevant, but that would happen in any case as soon as quarterfinals are finished.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
August 17 2019 08:24 GMT
#198
Anyway, what the hell is going on in this PvP... 4 bases?!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
August 17 2019 08:25 GMT
#199
On August 17 2019 17:24 sneakyfox wrote:
Anyway, what the hell is going on in this PvP... 4 bases?!

What confuses me even more is why did these Protoss players suddenly start making colossi again in PVP recently.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
August 17 2019 08:26 GMT
#200
On August 17 2019 17:25 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 17:24 sneakyfox wrote:
Anyway, what the hell is going on in this PvP... 4 bases?!

What confuses me even more is why did these Protoss players suddenly start making colossi again in PVP recently.

meta game may be ?
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