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2019 GSL Season 1 Code A (Qualifiers) announcement - Page 4

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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 13 2019 23:52 GMT
#61
On January 14 2019 07:33 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2019 01:38 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 14 2019 01:23 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 13 2019 07:48 BisuDagger wrote:
AfreecaTV is carrying Starcraft 1 and 2 on its shoulders. I wish the player base internationally could rally behind them and stream on their platform.



Hmmm, that's an interesting idea except it's not commercially viable for streamers in the West who depend on stream revenue. It might be a nice idea for the guys that just use for supplmentary revenue or for hobbyists though.

They;re not global, nuff said

They are global and that is why we can now see Afreeca streams on the side bar that aren't Korean. Afreeca has done a ton in the past year to improve their global performance. They almost need to re-reach out to the international scene.

Regarding commercial viability, you can dual stream using iostream with very little performance hit. Therefore you stream on all platforms. So you dont have to turn off twitch to use Afreeca, there are free and very easy options for doing both.

Finally, I have a long history with AfreecaTV and the most important thing to them is feedback. The reps always tell me if global viewers would send in feedback comments it would put pressure on the developers to improve global Afreeca.


Very good to know. Thanks for the post!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19234 Posts
January 14 2019 00:20 GMT
#62
On January 14 2019 08:25 Kalera wrote:
Has Afreeca's player been updated? It runs a lot better than it used to.

Yeah it recieved a major one a little over year ago and has since been improving.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-14 01:37:37
January 14 2019 01:24 GMT
#63
Does it mean that GSL will be stream on AfreecaTV, only?
https://www.youtube.com/c/DepressingStarcraft <- Maru VODs and stuff | END REGION-LOCK NOW
speakerbox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada453 Posts
January 14 2019 01:55 GMT
#64
Heck yes. Stoked for some Code-a
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blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
January 14 2019 02:00 GMT
#65
On January 14 2019 07:33 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2019 01:38 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 14 2019 01:23 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 13 2019 07:48 BisuDagger wrote:
AfreecaTV is carrying Starcraft 1 and 2 on its shoulders. I wish the player base internationally could rally behind them and stream on their platform.



Hmmm, that's an interesting idea except it's not commercially viable for streamers in the West who depend on stream revenue. It might be a nice idea for the guys that just use for supplmentary revenue or for hobbyists though.

They;re not global, nuff said

They are global and that is why we can now see Afreeca streams on the side bar that aren't Korean. Afreeca has done a ton in the past year to improve their global performance. They almost need to re-reach out to the international scene.

Regarding commercial viability, you can dual stream using iostream with very little performance hit. Therefore you stream on all platforms. So you dont have to turn off twitch to use Afreeca, there are free and very easy options for doing both.

Finally, I have a long history with AfreecaTV and the most important thing to them is feedback. The reps always tell me if global viewers would send in feedback comments it would put pressure on the developers to improve global Afreeca.

Twitch Partners do have an exclusivity agreement, and more people around the globe have (bigger) issues streaming and/or watching Afreeca compared to Twitch. On top of that, people who don't regularly watch Afreeca are not very keen on using Afreeca for many reasons, one of them being its usability + Show Spoiler +
rudimentary things like clicking a link and having a new tab/window open which sites just don't do except for Afreeca, more complex things like site navigation being so poor that even I have to put in a lot of effort to avoid getting lost or find specific things
, another big one is schedule/timezones of people around the world compared to streams on Afreeca. Broadcasters in the west do need to try harder to live off or even slightly supplement themselves from Afreeca streams compared to Twitch, and, even if they try hard to make it work, there are still things that are out of their control.

As much as I like what Afreeca does for StarCraft, and as much as I wish Twitch/Amazon would create and promote events for more esports besides the most popular ones, it is what it is. Unless Afreeca changes a lot this year, I don't see the majority of the StarCraft players and broadcasters and viewerbases moving to Afreeca. Even if Afreeca does do a lot more this year, they would still need to have a lot of players/broadcasters end their Twitch partnerships and start regularly streaming on the platform, which probably wouldn't happen unless Twitch does something bad for the SC2 broadcasters and Afreeca does something like give SC2 broadcasters a decent sponsorship or suddenly starts making really, really inticing deals for broadcasters moving there from other platforms...

I guess to put into just a few words, Twitch has a ton of "global discoverability" (is that a term?) for StarCraft and, well, everything on the site that Afreeca just doesn't have now and isn't likely to have any time soon unless a ton goes poorly for Twitch and a much greater ton goes well for Afreeca. Afreeca still offers quite a lot of risk where Twitch offers a lot of safety.
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 14 2019 02:11 GMT
#66
qualifier hype
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-14 03:32:53
January 14 2019 03:32 GMT
#67
On January 14 2019 11:11 Shellshock wrote:
qualifier hype

hyppppeeeee.
Pretty sure noregret said on reddit he can't stream the qualifiers this time, so it's going to be a good ol' f5 spam.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 14 2019 07:44 GMT
#68
On January 14 2019 07:33 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2019 01:38 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 14 2019 01:23 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 13 2019 07:48 BisuDagger wrote:
AfreecaTV is carrying Starcraft 1 and 2 on its shoulders. I wish the player base internationally could rally behind them and stream on their platform.



Hmmm, that's an interesting idea except it's not commercially viable for streamers in the West who depend on stream revenue. It might be a nice idea for the guys that just use for supplmentary revenue or for hobbyists though.

They;re not global, nuff said

They are global and that is why we can now see Afreeca streams on the side bar that aren't Korean. Afreeca has done a ton in the past year to improve their global performance. They almost need to re-reach out to the international scene.

Regarding commercial viability, you can dual stream using iostream with very little performance hit. Therefore you stream on all platforms. So you dont have to turn off twitch to use Afreeca, there are free and very easy options for doing both.

Finally, I have a long history with AfreecaTV and the most important thing to them is feedback. The reps always tell me if global viewers would send in feedback comments it would put pressure on the developers to improve global Afreeca.

I am streaming (on the rarest of occasions) via the twitch center/server in Prague. I doubt Afreeca has a server there. But still - good to know they made some changes/upgrades. I would try it if I were into streaming
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
215 Posts
January 14 2019 08:10 GMT
#69
Phew! This was much needed news, I can finally be at peace.

Stoked for 2019 GSL, more Maru championships??
Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
January 14 2019 08:10 GMT
#70
New GSL!!!
"What a relief! Another personality saved..."

<3
Oz; MMA; Rain; sOs; Classic, Soulkey, TY, Dark
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 14 2019 08:20 GMT
#71
On January 14 2019 17:10 Kurao wrote:
Phew! This was much needed news, I can finally be at peace.

Stoked for 2019 GSL, more Maru championships??

I hope this will be the year of soO. As much as I love Maru soO needs some love too and I feel there won't be any possibility of this in the future. I wouldn't mind Maru getting all the 2nd places though
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
LaughNgamez
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada523 Posts
January 25 2019 04:29 GMT
#72
Anyone have details on the brackets?
(◕‿◕✿) Hopefully one day a decent caster http://www.youtube.com/LaughNgamez (◠‿◠✿)
cjb
Profile Joined July 2015
United States99 Posts
January 25 2019 04:48 GMT
#73
Brackets up at http://bj.afreecatv.com/afgsl/post/40858186
siakam
Profile Joined December 2018
Korea (South)11 Posts
January 25 2019 04:55 GMT
#74
Dream is participating
And guess Mc won against special or just special arrived late?
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-25 05:30:34
January 25 2019 04:57 GMT
#75
Sniper and Zoun holy crap. I guess with HotS collapsing Sniper came back to ruin christmas once again.

EDIT: Got rid of the second half of this post as a few of them have played matches
cjb
Profile Joined July 2015
United States99 Posts
January 25 2019 04:57 GMT
#76
SpeCial might have forfeited in order to play in WCS? There seem to be many people missing from the brackets..
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-25 05:03:48
January 25 2019 05:02 GMT
#77
Somebody forgot to post Groups E, F, G, and H. Or they're in another session or something.
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TL+ Member
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
January 25 2019 05:03 GMT
#78
On January 25 2019 14:02 pvsnp wrote:
Somebody forgot to post Groups E, F, G, and H

They always do half the groups in the morning and half later on.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-25 05:07:23
January 25 2019 05:04 GMT
#79
On January 25 2019 14:03 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 14:02 pvsnp wrote:
Somebody forgot to post Groups E, F, G, and H

They always do half the groups in the morning and half later on.


It's 2:00 PM though. Does that qualify as "morning" for Afreeca?

Maybe they just pushed the schedule back this year.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
raptor11234
Profile Joined November 2017
19 Posts
January 25 2019 05:11 GMT
#80
Brackets up at http://bj.afreecatv.com/afgsl/post/40858186


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