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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
September 09 2018 19:50 GMT
#961
inb4 Lambo wins vs Serral then loses the final and loses his berth for Blizzcon.
very illegal and very uncool
MarthTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany387 Posts
September 09 2018 19:50 GMT
#962
On September 10 2018 04:49 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 04:48 MarthTV wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Day 117-casters are still convinced that Dreamcatcher is a big map.

#NotAllCasters

Casters that don't cast offline don't exist, just like players who don't come to LANs.

That hurt more than expected...
youtube.com/c/MarthTV | twitter.com/Marth_TV | twitch.tv/marthtv
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 09 2018 19:50 GMT
#963
On September 10 2018 04:49 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 04:46 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:45 Elentos wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Day 117-casters are still convinced that Dreamcatcher is a big map.

Amazing, right? I mean, it's sizeable. But the rush distance is basically not there.


Not even. Not only are the rush distances tiny, it's also the same size as Blueshift.

Yeah, reasonable size. But the rush distance is just not there.

It has actually longer rush distance than Blueshift and a highground natural!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 09 2018 19:51 GMT
#964
On September 10 2018 04:49 uummpaa wrote:
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On September 10 2018 04:38 Fango wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:33 uummpaa wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:28 Fango wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:25 uummpaa wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:23 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:23 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
This Lambo guy ain't no Scarlett


I'm still mad she's not at Blizzcon because she 2-3ed twice


so everybody just ignores her bad performances in the first two stops and blames the draws in the other two?

The thing is she's looked better than most of the guys in the top 8. Has, SpeCial etc have had bad performances as well but go to blizzcon because of a couple good runs. Scarlett ran into Serral early on in both events where she had great form.


so what?


and if her form was that great, why was she second in her groups?




Barely losing 3-2 to Serral (TWICE!) is better than any other foreigner has done this year. That kind of performance deserves more than 300/600 WCS points which is what she got for it. We see top players get upset in groups all the time but still smash the event.

The events where SpeCial and Has were in good shape, they didn't meet Serral until the ro4/finals, and as a result they got 900/1400 points for it and make blizzcon. That's where luck comes into it.


in 2/3 cases with speCial and Has they won their groups and their qualifiers (scarletts are harder, but she still should always top4 NA)

and sure, lets give points to almost beating good players, whatever helps the players you like. maybe her style is just better against serral, as she beat inno and co. in korea she still did nothing in circuit.

maybe you people should look a little further than your sympathy for a player and just accept that bad luck is a thing, and scarlett had two additional chances to go to blizzcon which she didn't take

I didn't say they should give Scarlett extra point for nearly beating Serral. But if she's good enough to do that she's better than almost everyone that earned more points on the other side of the bracket. Which makes it a shame she met him so early.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
September 09 2018 19:51 GMT
#965
On September 10 2018 04:50 starkiller123 wrote:
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On September 10 2018 04:48 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:46 Durnuu wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:46 Zaros wrote:
Come on Lambo then Reynor win the whole thing

Weird way to spell TIME

yea I want TIME to win lol

me too, would be so hype lol


Reynor is so awesome though and can legit take on Koreans, not sure if Time can yet.
uummpaa
Profile Joined July 2018
238 Posts
September 09 2018 19:51 GMT
#966
On September 10 2018 04:50 argonautdice wrote:
inb4 Lambo wins vs Serral then loses the final and loses his berth for Blizzcon.


lambo goes to blizzcon 100% if he wins vs serral, no matter what happens in the final
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
September 09 2018 19:51 GMT
#967
ok if Lambo does muta into win, he's a true legend
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 09 2018 19:52 GMT
#968
Lambo with the classic "I can't build Serral in an honest roach game" build, very often utilized by Reynor and Scarlett.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
September 09 2018 19:52 GMT
#969
On September 10 2018 04:51 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 04:50 starkiller123 wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:48 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:46 Durnuu wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:46 Zaros wrote:
Come on Lambo then Reynor win the whole thing

Weird way to spell TIME

yea I want TIME to win lol

me too, would be so hype lol


Reynor is so awesome though and can legit take on Koreans, not sure if Time can yet.

yeah but terran bias
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 09 2018 19:52 GMT
#970
On September 10 2018 04:49 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 04:47 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:34 Ej_ wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:30 Nakajin wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:28 Fango wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:25 uummpaa wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:23 chipmonklord17 wrote:
[quote]

I'm still mad she's not at Blizzcon because she 2-3ed twice


so everybody just ignores her bad performances in the first two stops and blames the draws in the other two?

The thing is she's looked better than most of the guys in the top 8. Has, SpeCial etc have had bad performances as well but go to blizzcon because of a couple good runs. Scarlett ran into Serral early on in both events where she had great form.


Has and Special also have collected the benefit of a broken challenger system

Unlike Scarlett, who has to compete with Neeb and MaSa in the grueling Challenger NA.


Well there's 4 seeds so she doesn't strictly need to compete against them. Just needs to be better than JonSnow, puCK, Semper etc


While playing from Korea. Which of all the players that have been mentioned only Neeb and sometimes puCK have had to do as well


Playing from Korea is self-inflicted, so please don't use that as an excuse.



Disadvantages don't stop being disadvantages when you choose them to happen. Its still harder for Scarlett to play JonSnow/Masa/puCK/Neeb/Semper/etc than it is for Has/Major in challenger, inflating their point scores. And even then we all know Scarlett's form was great this year, she made the ro8 in the GSL too. She definitely got unlucky in WCS, I can't believe there's even an argument


Sure it's still a disadvantage, but if they're self-inflicted they don't really help the argument that she deserves to be at Blizzcon.

The argument shouldn't be whether she deserves Blizzcon, but whether bad bracket luck prevented her from proving she was or wasn't.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
September 09 2018 19:53 GMT
#971
Serral is dead af LOL
very illegal and very uncool
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
September 09 2018 19:53 GMT
#972
On September 10 2018 04:28 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2018 04:26 Zaros wrote:
On September 10 2018 04:25 Philozovic wrote:
Can Blizzard please makes somewhat of a seeding system so that Scarlett vs Serral isn't top 8 or neeb vs Reynor top 16 and then we have stomps left and right ?


Neeb got 2nd in his group and Reynor is low down in the WCS rankings so thats probably why


Actually the seeding of the playoffs is alright. A bit too much emphasis on the 1st event of the year but that's an acceptable drawback. It's group stage 3 that should be seeded with WCS points & 1st/2nd like the playoffs are


There is seeding for the Play-off ? I thought it was top1 group stage vs top2 at random
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 09 2018 19:54 GMT
#973
Obligatory "fuck mutalisk players".
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
September 09 2018 19:54 GMT
#974
Holy crap is Lambo winning this?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 09 2018 19:55 GMT
#975
Does Serral has more than one build?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
September 09 2018 19:55 GMT
#976
On September 10 2018 04:55 Argonauta wrote:
Does Serral has more than one build?

Well if it ain't broke...
very illegal and very uncool
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
September 09 2018 19:55 GMT
#977
On September 10 2018 04:54 Anc13nt wrote:
Holy crap is Lambo winning this?


nop ?
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 09 2018 19:55 GMT
#978
Lambo going full foreigner.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
September 09 2018 19:55 GMT
#979
Upgrades for Serral looking great
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 09 2018 19:55 GMT
#980
Wow those roaches did work.
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