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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 05 2018 07:55 GMT
#141
Bunny
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
May 05 2018 07:56 GMT
#142
that's the look of a dead man
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 05 2018 07:56 GMT
#143
On May 05 2018 16:54 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
im wondering, why terran still going for mine drops. i think its rarely finding enough damage.


Dear's pretty bad against mines. Maru destroyed him with mine drops.
StabiloBoss20
Profile Joined July 2015
313 Posts
May 05 2018 08:00 GMT
#144
On May 05 2018 16:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2018 16:54 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
im wondering, why terran still going for mine drops. i think its rarely finding enough damage.


Dear's pretty bad against mines. Maru destroyed him with mine drops.



i dont think this should be the blueprint. maru is maru. and maru always does with runbys or sth else. its always the comb which does the damage. an isolated mine drop gives you bad odds i feel.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
May 05 2018 08:06 GMT
#145
Damn, was hoping Zanster would be able to advance...his first series vs. Maru pretty much convinced me he could.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
May 05 2018 08:23 GMT
#146
On May 05 2018 16:46 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2018 16:21 D-light wrote:
On May 05 2018 16:16 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:
On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:
On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:
On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for

it's zanster dude lol


And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race

Bunny would trash every foreign zerg


Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo.

Bunny 4-0ed Serral in an online tournament earlier this year..
Guess who's the biased one here

That was last year.

You're right...
29th December rofl.

http://aligulac.com/players/1517/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=

His only really high level TvZ win since that win vs Serral was a 3-2 over soO in late March. The best foreign win was vs Lambo and now Zanster. This is literally nothing impressive. Also, Scarlett 3-1 Serral in February, but you're not acting like she can dumpster literally every foreign Zerg for it.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
May 05 2018 08:50 GMT
#147
On May 05 2018 17:23 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2018 16:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 05 2018 16:21 D-light wrote:
On May 05 2018 16:16 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:
On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:
On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:
On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for

it's zanster dude lol


And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race

Bunny would trash every foreign zerg


Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo.

Bunny 4-0ed Serral in an online tournament earlier this year..
Guess who's the biased one here

That was last year.

You're right...
29th December rofl.

http://aligulac.com/players/1517/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=

His only really high level TvZ win since that win vs Serral was a 3-2 over soO in late March. The best foreign win was vs Lambo and now Zanster. This is literally nothing impressive. Also, Scarlett 3-1 Serral in February, but you're not acting like she can dumpster literally every foreign Zerg for it.


What's your point. Since monthe he lose only to good korean zerg or top foreigner. It was just Zanster here. Nothing to be shocked.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 05 2018 12:02 GMT
#148
On May 05 2018 16:54 StabiloBoss20 wrote:
im wondering, why terran still going for mine drops. i think its rarely finding enough damage.

Dear is historically not good against mines.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 05 2018 14:55 GMT
#149
Jin Air players are 16-3 with every single player getting out of their group in first so far. If Cure can get out of his group of death, the value of having a team cannot be denied.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28526 Posts
May 05 2018 15:13 GMT
#150
this was a fun group, gg

weird both zanster and bunny didn't make it out tho
I Protoss winner, could it be?
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
May 05 2018 15:13 GMT
#151
Any recommended matches?
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 05 2018 15:27 GMT
#152
On May 06 2018 00:13 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?

Both Maru Zanster games are watchable.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-05 15:58:24
May 05 2018 15:57 GMT
#153
On May 05 2018 23:55 Boggyb wrote:
Jin Air players are 16-3 with every single player getting out of their group in first so far. If Cure can get out of his group of death, the value of having a team cannot be denied.

No chance Cure gets out of his group unless he's suddenly good again. Creator didn't manage to qualify either.

It's hard say that the team is what's responsible for Jin Air's recent success either. sOs, Maru, Rogue, and Trap have always been solid players. I'd honestly say that except for Rogue, they're all performing equal or worse to what they were in the past when everyone had teams.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-05 16:15:52
May 05 2018 16:12 GMT
#154
On May 06 2018 00:13 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?


The first map of Maru vs Zanster was decent, and Dear vs Bunny on Neon Violet was good.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-05 22:16:59
May 05 2018 21:04 GMT
#155
On May 06 2018 00:57 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2018 23:55 Boggyb wrote:
Jin Air players are 16-3 with every single player getting out of their group in first so far. If Cure can get out of his group of death, the value of having a team cannot be denied.

No chance Cure gets out of his group unless he's suddenly good again. Creator didn't manage to qualify either.

It's hard say that the team is what's responsible for Jin Air's recent success either. sOs, Maru, Rogue, and Trap have always been solid players. I'd honestly say that except for Rogue, they're all performing equal or worse to what they were in the past when everyone had teams.

Then we can talk about other players falling because of the lack of teams. Either way it appears that having a team is good(what a shocking reveal, i know )

Edit>

lol, just rewatching the 2nd game of Dear vs. Bunny, game of throws, so many mistakes and clumping by both sides(THOSE RAVENS!!!)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-05 22:26:50
May 05 2018 22:26 GMT
#156
On May 06 2018 06:04 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2018 00:57 Fango wrote:
On May 05 2018 23:55 Boggyb wrote:
Jin Air players are 16-3 with every single player getting out of their group in first so far. If Cure can get out of his group of death, the value of having a team cannot be denied.

No chance Cure gets out of his group unless he's suddenly good again. Creator didn't manage to qualify either.

It's hard say that the team is what's responsible for Jin Air's recent success either. sOs, Maru, Rogue, and Trap have always been solid players. I'd honestly say that except for Rogue, they're all performing equal or worse to what they were in the past when everyone had teams.

Then we can talk about other players falling because of the lack of teams. Either way it appears that having a team is good(what a shocking reveal, i know )

I'm talking about performance relative to the playing field. Jin Air's players haven't improved that much since the other teams disbanded. Cure got worse. Rogue improved. Creator, Maru, sOs, and Trap remained at pretty much the same level. Some players have drastically improved since leaving their teams as well. So there isn't enough evidence to prove having a team is that important for results.

Although personally I do believe a having a team would help.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 05 2018 22:47 GMT
#157
Cure didnt get worse lol, he was playing OW at the time and then bad bracket luck in GSL S1 2018 qualifier
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neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
May 06 2018 01:30 GMT
#158
On May 06 2018 07:26 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2018 06:04 deacon.frost wrote:
On May 06 2018 00:57 Fango wrote:
On May 05 2018 23:55 Boggyb wrote:
Jin Air players are 16-3 with every single player getting out of their group in first so far. If Cure can get out of his group of death, the value of having a team cannot be denied.

No chance Cure gets out of his group unless he's suddenly good again. Creator didn't manage to qualify either.

It's hard say that the team is what's responsible for Jin Air's recent success either. sOs, Maru, Rogue, and Trap have always been solid players. I'd honestly say that except for Rogue, they're all performing equal or worse to what they were in the past when everyone had teams.

Then we can talk about other players falling because of the lack of teams. Either way it appears that having a team is good(what a shocking reveal, i know )

I'm talking about performance relative to the playing field. Jin Air's players haven't improved that much since the other teams disbanded. Cure got worse. Rogue improved. Creator, Maru, sOs, and Trap remained at pretty much the same level. Some players have drastically improved since leaving their teams as well. So there isn't enough evidence to prove having a team is that important for results.

Although personally I do believe a having a team would help.


I guess we'll see how things play out, but honestly I think Trap has gotten better. When I watch him lately, I consistently think he's a player on the uptick. Also, Maru had a lot of windows of greatness in the past, but I think he's gotten better again. When he won last season, he was really looking like the best version of himself, having shored up a lot of his traditional weaknesses.

I have no idea how much the team membership is responsible for these things, but I would guess it helps. I guess Cure has his excuses, and I have no idea what the story is with Creator, but I really feel for him.

And as a side note, if I'd been Stats in the last GSL finals and seen Maru's teammates all in the booth with him in between games while I was on my own, I think that would have been pretty demoralizing. Though Stats is of course a pretty level-headed player.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
May 06 2018 18:04 GMT
#159
On May 05 2018 17:50 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2018 17:23 Parrek wrote:
On May 05 2018 16:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 05 2018 16:21 D-light wrote:
On May 05 2018 16:16 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 05 2018 16:13 Parrek wrote:
On May 05 2018 15:56 Ej_ wrote:
On May 05 2018 15:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 05 2018 15:55 Durnuu wrote:
On May 05 2018 15:53 chipmonklord17 wrote:
still not sure if mech is hilariously broken or Bunny is a much better player than I give him credit for

it's zanster dude lol


And its Bunny. We're not talking about some great master of the terran race

Bunny would trash every foreign zerg


Man I haven't heard Korean bias that strong since HotS. Bunny is a mid tier Korean. We are long past the era where someone at that level could trash every foreigner. Heck, Bunny couldn't trash the majority of a WCS Ro16. Looking at Leipzig bracket, the only people I would say he would dumpster are Bly, Nice, Masa, and Lambo.

Bunny 4-0ed Serral in an online tournament earlier this year..
Guess who's the biased one here

That was last year.

You're right...
29th December rofl.

http://aligulac.com/players/1517/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=

His only really high level TvZ win since that win vs Serral was a 3-2 over soO in late March. The best foreign win was vs Lambo and now Zanster. This is literally nothing impressive. Also, Scarlett 3-1 Serral in February, but you're not acting like she can dumpster literally every foreign Zerg for it.


What's your point. Since monthe he lose only to good korean zerg or top foreigner. It was just Zanster here. Nothing to be shocked.


Read the rest of the chain. I was responding to a guy who said Bunny would dumpster literally every foreign zerg. Probably a troll, but I like looking at statistics and arguing so it didn't matter much
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
May 06 2018 18:07 GMT
#160
On May 06 2018 07:47 DieuCure wrote:
Cure didnt get worse lol, he was playing OW at the time and then bad bracket luck in GSL S1 2018 qualifier

Being in a group with Billowy and Losira isn't bad bracket luck.
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