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On March 04 2018 20:35 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:34 Ej_ wrote:On March 04 2018 20:33 Charoisaur wrote:On March 04 2018 20:32 opisska wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Penev wrote:On March 04 2018 20:29 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:28 Luolis wrote:
G3 couldve been anyones game, 1 was a freewin for classic cause he hid his build well and g2 serral just chose to do a bad build. Still Serral did well at this event. More prac, better results. At the end of the day Classic just looked more prepped, more prepared and far cleaner than Serral today. Still, it's not too shameful. Classic legitimately brought his A-game, unlike Dark 'eh fuck it I guess I'll 12 pool you and you'll die'. I just want to see Serral get a little better at reading mind games and get stronger pocket builds than that garbage ling drop 2016 bullshit. should go to Korea hasn't worked too well for scarlett Yeah, she has only beaten the possibly greatest player of all time in the most prestigious tournament, no biggie. what? when did she beat TaeJa? http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=scarlett
taeja&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= not exactly the most prestigious tournament
ATC was the proleague of the west
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On March 04 2018 20:36 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:35 Charoisaur wrote:On March 04 2018 20:34 Ej_ wrote:On March 04 2018 20:33 Charoisaur wrote:On March 04 2018 20:32 opisska wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Penev wrote:On March 04 2018 20:29 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:28 Luolis wrote:
G3 couldve been anyones game, 1 was a freewin for classic cause he hid his build well and g2 serral just chose to do a bad build. Still Serral did well at this event. More prac, better results. At the end of the day Classic just looked more prepped, more prepared and far cleaner than Serral today. Still, it's not too shameful. Classic legitimately brought his A-game, unlike Dark 'eh fuck it I guess I'll 12 pool you and you'll die'. I just want to see Serral get a little better at reading mind games and get stronger pocket builds than that garbage ling drop 2016 bullshit. should go to Korea hasn't worked too well for scarlett Yeah, she has only beaten the possibly greatest player of all time in the most prestigious tournament, no biggie. what? when did she beat TaeJa? http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=scarlett
taeja&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= not exactly the most prestigious tournament HSC is the greatest tournament, that's why TaeJa is the GOAT. He won 3, in a row!
Zest about to catch up.
Might have a new goat soon
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On March 04 2018 20:36 Uberfather wrote:
I think game 3 showed what would happen in any standard serral game, Classic just was prepared for serrals a-game, knew the timings of when to attack, focused on stopping creep spread, and knew how to deal with serrals multipronged assault: attack with his stronger army while serral would be multitasking
There was a pretty big tactical blunder with the rocks though, Serral at least would have saved 10 drones and maybe the base though probably not if he already dealt with that.
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On March 04 2018 20:35 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:34 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:32 opisska wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Penev wrote:On March 04 2018 20:29 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:28 Luolis wrote:
G3 couldve been anyones game, 1 was a freewin for classic cause he hid his build well and g2 serral just chose to do a bad build. Still Serral did well at this event. More prac, better results. At the end of the day Classic just looked more prepped, more prepared and far cleaner than Serral today. Still, it's not too shameful. Classic legitimately brought his A-game, unlike Dark 'eh fuck it I guess I'll 12 pool you and you'll die'. I just want to see Serral get a little better at reading mind games and get stronger pocket builds than that garbage ling drop 2016 bullshit. should go to Korea hasn't worked too well for scarlett Yeah, she has only beaten the possibly greatest player of all time in the most prestigious tournament, no biggie. So does uThermal count as being a better TvT than the GOAT, now? INnoVation's in terrible form. He lost to Zest right after Scarlett. Yes, she's gotten some good results, but she's also lost twice to Namshar, once to Guru, and once to TRUE. I think Serral would take his WCS championship and IEM WC semifinal over that any day. We should resume this debate after she kisses the GSL trophy
She's gotten out of the Ro32 once in four tries, and ever since she started fiddling around with korea in ~2015 (first going to SSL), she's had next to no WCS results. For that to manifest itself in one good IEM run and then a Ro8 shitstomp vs soO (or best case, losing 0-4 to Classic in semis) over almost 4 years would be pretty disappointing.
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On March 04 2018 20:35 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:34 Ej_ wrote:On March 04 2018 20:33 Charoisaur wrote:On March 04 2018 20:32 opisska wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Penev wrote:On March 04 2018 20:29 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:28 Luolis wrote:
G3 couldve been anyones game, 1 was a freewin for classic cause he hid his build well and g2 serral just chose to do a bad build. Still Serral did well at this event. More prac, better results. At the end of the day Classic just looked more prepped, more prepared and far cleaner than Serral today. Still, it's not too shameful. Classic legitimately brought his A-game, unlike Dark 'eh fuck it I guess I'll 12 pool you and you'll die'. I just want to see Serral get a little better at reading mind games and get stronger pocket builds than that garbage ling drop 2016 bullshit. should go to Korea hasn't worked too well for scarlett Yeah, she has only beaten the possibly greatest player of all time in the most prestigious tournament, no biggie. what? when did she beat TaeJa? http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=scarlett
taeja&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= not exactly the most prestigious tournament
How do you beat taeja in the most prestigious tournament if he doesn't play it though?
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On March 04 2018 20:33 Uberfather wrote:
Total destruction. Its like the soO and rogue vs neeb in blizzcon. Once the foreigner becomes that good to make the top koreans respect them, even with a genius standard play that looks invencible, they will simpy study their game and find the weakness and just demolish it.
In all fairness, Neeb looked really shaken after his match vs soO, and Neeb even won his first series against Rogue.
Besides, most people this tournament haven't looked great vs Classic. I will add that it was Elazer who took one of the two maps off of Classic.
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On March 04 2018 20:38 DBooN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:35 Charoisaur wrote:On March 04 2018 20:34 Ej_ wrote:On March 04 2018 20:33 Charoisaur wrote:On March 04 2018 20:32 opisska wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Penev wrote:On March 04 2018 20:29 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:28 Luolis wrote:
G3 couldve been anyones game, 1 was a freewin for classic cause he hid his build well and g2 serral just chose to do a bad build. Still Serral did well at this event. More prac, better results. At the end of the day Classic just looked more prepped, more prepared and far cleaner than Serral today. Still, it's not too shameful. Classic legitimately brought his A-game, unlike Dark 'eh fuck it I guess I'll 12 pool you and you'll die'. I just want to see Serral get a little better at reading mind games and get stronger pocket builds than that garbage ling drop 2016 bullshit. should go to Korea hasn't worked too well for scarlett Yeah, she has only beaten the possibly greatest player of all time in the most prestigious tournament, no biggie. what? when did she beat TaeJa? http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=scarlett
taeja&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= not exactly the most prestigious tournament How do you beat taeja in the most prestigious tournament if he doesn't play it though?
The classic Mvp strat, can't whop the ass of a guy who fleed to farm foreigners with hellbats.
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On March 04 2018 20:39 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:38 DBooN wrote:On March 04 2018 20:35 Charoisaur wrote:On March 04 2018 20:34 Ej_ wrote:On March 04 2018 20:33 Charoisaur wrote:On March 04 2018 20:32 opisska wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Penev wrote:On March 04 2018 20:29 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:28 Luolis wrote:
G3 couldve been anyones game, 1 was a freewin for classic cause he hid his build well and g2 serral just chose to do a bad build. Still Serral did well at this event. More prac, better results. At the end of the day Classic just looked more prepped, more prepared and far cleaner than Serral today. Still, it's not too shameful. Classic legitimately brought his A-game, unlike Dark 'eh fuck it I guess I'll 12 pool you and you'll die'. I just want to see Serral get a little better at reading mind games and get stronger pocket builds than that garbage ling drop 2016 bullshit. should go to Korea hasn't worked too well for scarlett Yeah, she has only beaten the possibly greatest player of all time in the most prestigious tournament, no biggie. what? when did she beat TaeJa? http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=scarlett
taeja&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= not exactly the most prestigious tournament How do you beat taeja in the most prestigious tournament if he doesn't play it though? The classic Mvp strat, can't whop the ass of a guy who fleed to farm foreigners with hellbats.
Mvp really did invent everything for Terran.
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On March 04 2018 20:38 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:33 Uberfather wrote:
Total destruction. Its like the soO and rogue vs neeb in blizzcon. Once the foreigner becomes that good to make the top koreans respect them, even with a genius standard play that looks invencible, they will simpy study their game and find the weakness and just demolish it.
In all fairness, Neeb looked really shaken after his match vs soO, and Neeb even won his first series against Rogue. Besides, most people this tournament haven't looked great vs Classic. I will add that it was Elazer who took one of the two maps off of Classic.
With a good build 
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Serral has the mechanics of a top korean, he only need to improve his scouting and choose better builds.
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On March 04 2018 20:36 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:35 Ej_ wrote:On March 04 2018 20:34 Poopi wrote:On March 04 2018 20:32 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Maru to 4-0 Classic in the finals pulling the boys + raven every time Would be super cool if that could work He'll have a lot of troubles beating Rogue tho, only mech seems viable in TvZ atm The only game TY won vs Rogue was with bio dude So what? Maru of all terrans played almost only mech in his TvZ against Solar
He went bio in two of the games and then transitioned into ghost/raven later on
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On March 04 2018 20:40 DieuCure wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:38 FrkFrJss wrote:On March 04 2018 20:33 Uberfather wrote:
Total destruction. Its like the soO and rogue vs neeb in blizzcon. Once the foreigner becomes that good to make the top koreans respect them, even with a genius standard play that looks invencible, they will simpy study their game and find the weakness and just demolish it.
In all fairness, Neeb looked really shaken after his match vs soO, and Neeb even won his first series against Rogue. Besides, most people this tournament haven't looked great vs Classic. I will add that it was Elazer who took one of the two maps off of Classic. With a good build
That g1 build is still the sickest thing I've ever seen, man nearly fucking 2-0'd classic but he forgot locusts cannot flank quickly
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On March 04 2018 20:37 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:35 opisska wrote:On March 04 2018 20:34 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:32 opisska wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Penev wrote:On March 04 2018 20:29 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:28 Luolis wrote:
G3 couldve been anyones game, 1 was a freewin for classic cause he hid his build well and g2 serral just chose to do a bad build. Still Serral did well at this event. More prac, better results. At the end of the day Classic just looked more prepped, more prepared and far cleaner than Serral today. Still, it's not too shameful. Classic legitimately brought his A-game, unlike Dark 'eh fuck it I guess I'll 12 pool you and you'll die'. I just want to see Serral get a little better at reading mind games and get stronger pocket builds than that garbage ling drop 2016 bullshit. should go to Korea hasn't worked too well for scarlett Yeah, she has only beaten the possibly greatest player of all time in the most prestigious tournament, no biggie. So does uThermal count as being a better TvT than the GOAT, now? INnoVation's in terrible form. He lost to Zest right after Scarlett. Yes, she's gotten some good results, but she's also lost twice to Namshar, once to Guru, and once to TRUE. I think Serral would take his WCS championship and IEM WC semifinal over that any day. We should resume this debate after she kisses the GSL trophy She's gotten out of the Ro32 once in four tries, and ever since she started fiddling around with korea in ~2015 (first going to SSL), she's had next to no WCS results. For that to manifest itself in one good IEM run and then a Ro8 shitstomp vs soO (or best case, losing 0-4 to Classic in semis) over almost 4 years would be pretty disappointing.
Gotta admire he persistence though
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On March 04 2018 20:40 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:36 Poopi wrote:On March 04 2018 20:35 Ej_ wrote:On March 04 2018 20:34 Poopi wrote:On March 04 2018 20:32 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Maru to 4-0 Classic in the finals pulling the boys + raven every time Would be super cool if that could work He'll have a lot of troubles beating Rogue tho, only mech seems viable in TvZ atm The only game TY won vs Rogue was with bio dude So what? Maru of all terrans played almost only mech in his TvZ against Solar He went bio in two of the games and then transitioned into ghost/raven later on
Everyone knows bio is only made of medivacs, marines, marauders and tanks/mines. Everything else is mech, ewwww
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Why do I get this sneaky feeling that if it's Rogue vs Classic in the finals, Rogue will just Nydus rush his way to the title?
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On March 04 2018 20:40 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:40 Fango wrote:On March 04 2018 20:36 Poopi wrote:On March 04 2018 20:35 Ej_ wrote:On March 04 2018 20:34 Poopi wrote:On March 04 2018 20:32 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Maru to 4-0 Classic in the finals pulling the boys + raven every time Would be super cool if that could work He'll have a lot of troubles beating Rogue tho, only mech seems viable in TvZ atm The only game TY won vs Rogue was with bio dude So what? Maru of all terrans played almost only mech in his TvZ against Solar He went bio in two of the games and then transitioned into ghost/raven later on Everyone knows bio is only made of medivacs, marines, marauders and tanks/mines. Everything else is mech, ewwww
You forgot SCVs.
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On March 04 2018 20:41 Kommander wrote:
Why do I get this sneaky feeling that if it's Rogue vs Classic in the finals, Rogue will just Nydus rush his way to the title?
Rogue has a history of proxy hatching Classic out of important games iirc
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On March 04 2018 20:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2018 20:37 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:35 opisska wrote:On March 04 2018 20:34 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:32 opisska wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:30 Penev wrote:On March 04 2018 20:29 Soularion wrote:On March 04 2018 20:28 Luolis wrote:
G3 couldve been anyones game, 1 was a freewin for classic cause he hid his build well and g2 serral just chose to do a bad build. Still Serral did well at this event. More prac, better results. At the end of the day Classic just looked more prepped, more prepared and far cleaner than Serral today. Still, it's not too shameful. Classic legitimately brought his A-game, unlike Dark 'eh fuck it I guess I'll 12 pool you and you'll die'. I just want to see Serral get a little better at reading mind games and get stronger pocket builds than that garbage ling drop 2016 bullshit. should go to Korea hasn't worked too well for scarlett Yeah, she has only beaten the possibly greatest player of all time in the most prestigious tournament, no biggie. So does uThermal count as being a better TvT than the GOAT, now? INnoVation's in terrible form. He lost to Zest right after Scarlett. Yes, she's gotten some good results, but she's also lost twice to Namshar, once to Guru, and once to TRUE. I think Serral would take his WCS championship and IEM WC semifinal over that any day. We should resume this debate after she kisses the GSL trophy She's gotten out of the Ro32 once in four tries, and ever since she started fiddling around with korea in ~2015 (first going to SSL), she's had next to no WCS results. For that to manifest itself in one good IEM run and then a Ro8 shitstomp vs soO (or best case, losing 0-4 to Classic in semis) over almost 4 years would be pretty disappointing. Gotta admire he persistence though
I do. And I think her creativity is really sick. Serral could learn a lot from her 'winning at any costs' approach, and her cheesing out of INno was pretty goddamn awesome. I just think it's silly to act as though it's a huge breakthrough when she's gotten really good bracket luck and she's not in a position to even dream of Blizzcon.
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On March 04 2018 20:41 Kommander wrote:
Why do I get this sneaky feeling that if it's Rogue vs Classic in the finals, Rogue will just Nydus rush his way to the title?
Because after an amazing yesterday, the gods of starcraft must punish us for our insolence
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