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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 03 2018 15:28 GMT
#701
GO MARU
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 03 2018 15:29 GMT
#702
On March 04 2018 00:28 gobbledydook wrote:
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On March 04 2018 00:27 Zaros wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:25 gobbledydook wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:24 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:22 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:20 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:17 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:16 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
[quote]

Ok, but Dark Templar fly and have ranged attacks.

I would be fine with this but they die instantly if they get detected


No, they have Hardened Shields while detected.

But while detected do 1/2 damage

but splash damage

See this is the problem with Protoss players

Me (benevolent, gracious terran legend) tries to give you an inch

And you (greedy, ungrateful protoss wretches) try to take a mile. I'm not having this. Back to Fall 2013 with you all


As a Terran, you should know that the answer to that was "Yes, they do splash damage. Including to allied units."

These Dark Templar designed by committee are going to be so awesome.


I'm going to want Vorazun co-op dark templars.


No one researches DT blink so might aswell swap it for the shadow fury upgrade.


imagine shadow fury DTs in a mineral line


Imagine a Mass DT army
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44303 Posts
March 03 2018 15:29 GMT
#703
On March 04 2018 00:25 youngjiddle wrote:
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On March 04 2018 00:24 goody153 wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:21 youngjiddle wrote:
that feel when IEM downtime is so long it gives you a ton of time to read your starcraft book :3

what book ?

i think the one i enjoyed the most was liberty's crusade


part three of the dark templar sega

love that protoss lore, it's the best.

ohhh the dark templar saga .. the one with the scientist dude+ Show Spoiler +
with a DT inside his head
and the mercenary marine girl

yeah that was fun but i did have some problems with that but i can't spoil it since you haven't finished it
this is a quote
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
March 03 2018 15:29 GMT
#704
On March 04 2018 00:28 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
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On March 04 2018 00:26 Penev wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:22 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:20 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:17 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:16 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:15 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:13 Zaros wrote:
[quote]

Are Protoss not even allowed to drop?

Nah

Also they can only warp in within their own base now no proxy pylons allowed


Ok, but Dark Templar fly and have ranged attacks.

I would be fine with this but they die instantly if they get detected


No, they have Hardened Shields while detected.

But while detected do 1/2 damage

but splash damage

See this is the problem with Protoss players

Me (benevolent, gracious terran legend) tries to give you an inch

And you (greedy, ungrateful protoss wretches) try to take a mile. I'm not having this. Back to Fall 2013 with you all

and none of them have apologized yet

not a single one


See, the problem here is that to you, the day Protoss destroyed all your hopes and dreams was the most important day in your life.

For us, it was Tuesday.

right, time to bring out the tyre iron
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16090 Posts
March 03 2018 15:30 GMT
#705
I don't believe that sOs has only 160 APM average
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 03 2018 15:30 GMT
#706
HNNNNG It's time!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3479 Posts
March 03 2018 15:30 GMT
#707
lol sign people got OSS
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
March 03 2018 15:30 GMT
#708
On March 04 2018 00:27 Olli wrote:
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On March 04 2018 00:26 gobbledydook wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:24 Olli wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:19 gobbledydook wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:16 Olli wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:15 gobbledydook wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:14 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:13 gobbledydook wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:08 Charoisaur wrote:
so painful.
How do you even hold this?


I guess you scout the Nydus in the zerg base and build units?

wow sounds really easy


i mean, if an all in is coming and you only know about it when it arrives at your base, you usually lose no matter what all in it was...


It's very hard to scout though. There's a spore and at least one queen in every base, so it's not like you can fly oracles in and scout everything easily


If Hurricane was better, maybe he could have used his flying units to check that Rogue has cut probes, if not see the Nydus? I don't imagine that defending a frontal push requires a hugely different strategy compared to this Nydus all in.


I think he did notice, that's why he made sentries at home. But unless you're seeing the nydus, you're blind. Could be a bane bust, speedling all in, straight up roach all in, perhaps even delayed ling drop - and of course roach/nydus.



It seems like all of the above are held by immortals, sentries and shield batteries.


Sentries are the worst thing vs nydus all ins, they're dead weight. A bane bust is held by sentries and additional walls, shield batteries need to go down wherever the nydus is (which you can't predict).


The nydus can only appear where there's vision, so either there's an overlord miraculously still around after the phoenix has done its job clearing them out, or it's popping up right behind the wall. If you wall the nydus in with force fields and/or buildings then the units can't fit through and are stuck on the other side?
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
March 03 2018 15:30 GMT
#709
Being one of the best protoss in the world requires only 160APM according to the IEM
TL+ Member
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 03 2018 15:30 GMT
#710
0$$
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 03 2018 15:31 GMT
#711
On March 04 2018 00:30 Charoisaur wrote:
I don't believe that sOs has only 160 APM average


That'd be a very sOs thing though
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
March 03 2018 15:31 GMT
#712
anyway why don't protosses cannon rush any more?
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
March 03 2018 15:31 GMT
#713
On March 04 2018 00:30 DieuCure wrote:
Being one of the best protoss in the world requires only 160APM according to the IEM


Didn't Stork have reputedly low APM?
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 03 2018 15:31 GMT
#714
On March 04 2018 00:30 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2018 00:27 Olli wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:26 gobbledydook wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:24 Olli wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:19 gobbledydook wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:16 Olli wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:15 gobbledydook wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:14 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:13 gobbledydook wrote:
On March 04 2018 00:08 Charoisaur wrote:
so painful.
How do you even hold this?


I guess you scout the Nydus in the zerg base and build units?

wow sounds really easy


i mean, if an all in is coming and you only know about it when it arrives at your base, you usually lose no matter what all in it was...


It's very hard to scout though. There's a spore and at least one queen in every base, so it's not like you can fly oracles in and scout everything easily


If Hurricane was better, maybe he could have used his flying units to check that Rogue has cut probes, if not see the Nydus? I don't imagine that defending a frontal push requires a hugely different strategy compared to this Nydus all in.


I think he did notice, that's why he made sentries at home. But unless you're seeing the nydus, you're blind. Could be a bane bust, speedling all in, straight up roach all in, perhaps even delayed ling drop - and of course roach/nydus.



It seems like all of the above are held by immortals, sentries and shield batteries.


Sentries are the worst thing vs nydus all ins, they're dead weight. A bane bust is held by sentries and additional walls, shield batteries need to go down wherever the nydus is (which you can't predict).


The nydus can only appear where there's vision, so either there's an overlord miraculously still around after the phoenix has done its job clearing them out, or it's popping up right behind the wall. If you wall the nydus in with force fields and/or buildings then the units can't fit through and are stuck on the other side?


I'm pretty sure you can't forcefield in units in a nydus. They pop up but are clumped up I believe.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44303 Posts
March 03 2018 15:32 GMT
#715
On March 04 2018 00:31 gobbledydook wrote:
anyway why don't protosses cannon rush any more?

i haven't seen 6 pool and bunker rush too
this is a quote
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 03 2018 15:32 GMT
#716
On March 04 2018 00:31 gobbledydook wrote:
anyway why don't protosses cannon rush any more?


Doesn't like up economically I believe. Zerg holds with their standard opening.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
March 03 2018 15:33 GMT
#717
$O$
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
March 03 2018 15:33 GMT
#718
$O$ is the best player at confusing his opponents.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 03 2018 15:34 GMT
#719
On March 04 2018 00:27 Olli wrote:
I've never seen sOs as the kinda player who does well on the back foot. But that's where Maru takes every Protoss in TvP, so I'm calling Maru.

sOs whole lifestory is coming up from being on the back foot of a small farm village to becoming the richest SC2 player
Neosteel Enthusiast
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
March 03 2018 15:34 GMT
#720
haha so many koreans....
Big Red Dog!
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