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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28440 Posts
February 27 2018 18:29 GMT
#381
On February 28 2018 03:28 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.


There are other options. I mean Zest relies much more on unit control than macro, and he rarely goes for the big macro-lategame. Sometimes he even stops macroing altogether...

"sometimes"
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 27 2018 18:29 GMT
#382
On February 28 2018 03:28 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.


There are other options. I mean Zest relies much more on unit control than macro, and he rarely goes for the big macro-lategame. Sometimes he even stops macroing altogether...


He floats money midgame, but that doesn't make him not a macro player. I disagree he relies more on control, it's his game management that wins games.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 27 2018 18:30 GMT
#383
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.

Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds.


That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more?

That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States581 Posts
February 27 2018 18:32 GMT
#384
soO looking rough.. good luck vs. scarlett when you lost 2-0 to Losira haha.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24578 Posts
February 27 2018 18:32 GMT
#385
On February 28 2018 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.

Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds.


That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more?

That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good


Bisu is hotter than Zest.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
February 27 2018 18:33 GMT
#386
On February 28 2018 03:32 youngjiddle wrote:
soO looking rough.. good luck vs. scarlett when you lost 2-0 to Losira haha.

Scarlett lost 2-0 to Guru, so she's not doing much better.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 27 2018 18:33 GMT
#387
On February 28 2018 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.

Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds.


That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more?

That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good


It's hard to look good AND revolutionize PvZ. You'd have to be HerO.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 27 2018 18:33 GMT
#388
On February 28 2018 03:32 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.

Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds.


That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more?

That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good


Bisu is hotter than Zest.

Different types of attractive to be honest. Bisu's more fly, while Zest has that animalistic thing going on.
kiss kiss fall in love
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4029 Posts
February 27 2018 18:34 GMT
#389
On February 28 2018 03:32 youngjiddle wrote:
soO looking rough.. good luck vs. scarlett when you lost 2-0 to Losira haha.

lmao i mean Scarlett lost to Guru and TRUE, i think she has more to worry about than soO does
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 27 2018 18:34 GMT
#390
On February 28 2018 03:33 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:32 youngjiddle wrote:
soO looking rough.. good luck vs. scarlett when you lost 2-0 to Losira haha.

Scarlett lost 2-0 to Guru, so she's not doing much better.

Losing to a Polish Zerg is inevitable, they're always coming to ruin your day.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
February 27 2018 18:34 GMT
#391
On February 28 2018 03:33 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:32 Heartland wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.

Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds.


That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more?

That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good


Bisu is hotter than Zest.

Different types of attractive to be honest. Bisu's more fly, while Zest has that animalistic thing going on.

You're so gay.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 27 2018 18:34 GMT
#392
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.

Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds.


That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more?

I meant for all 3 matchups.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24578 Posts
February 27 2018 18:34 GMT
#393
On February 28 2018 03:33 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:32 Heartland wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.

Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds.


That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more?

That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good


Bisu is hotter than Zest.

Different types of attractive to be honest. Bisu's more fly, while Zest has that animalistic thing going on.


What's up heartbro?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 27 2018 18:35 GMT
#394
On February 28 2018 03:33 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.

Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds.


That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more?

That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good


It's hard to look good AND revolutionize PvZ. You'd have to be HerO.

I expect like 6-7 hours for the Zest history video btw
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 27 2018 18:36 GMT
#395
On February 28 2018 03:34 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:33 intotheheart wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:32 Heartland wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.

Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds.


That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more?

That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good


Bisu is hotter than Zest.

Different types of attractive to be honest. Bisu's more fly, while Zest has that animalistic thing going on.


What's up heartbro?

Not a lot, trying to figure out an assignment. What about you?
kiss kiss fall in love
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 27 2018 18:36 GMT
#396
What we learned this IEM is that GSL is fucking worthless compared to a WCS.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
February 27 2018 18:36 GMT
#397
On February 28 2018 03:35 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:33 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.

Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds.


That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more?

That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good


It's hard to look good AND revolutionize PvZ. You'd have to be HerO.

I expect like 6-7 hours for the Zest history video btw


HerO honestly impacted the metagame a lot more than Zest ever did. I'd argue more than anyone else.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
February 27 2018 18:36 GMT
#398
On February 28 2018 03:36 Ej_ wrote:
What we learned this IEM is that GSL is fucking worthless compared to a WCS.

Apollo must be so proud of his work
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24578 Posts
February 27 2018 18:37 GMT
#399
On February 28 2018 03:36 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:34 Heartland wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:33 intotheheart wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:32 Heartland wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.

Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds.


That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more?

That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good


Bisu is hotter than Zest.

Different types of attractive to be honest. Bisu's more fly, while Zest has that animalistic thing going on.


What's up heartbro?

Not a lot, trying to figure out an assignment. What about you?


Paying bills. Watching Starcraft.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-27 18:37:34
February 27 2018 18:37 GMT
#400
On February 28 2018 03:33 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 03:32 Heartland wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:28 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:21 Ej_ wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:19 Olli wrote:
On February 28 2018 03:11 sneakyfox wrote:
Did PiG just define Zest as a macro protoss? :D


That's not nearly as absurd as you make it sound. He's more of a macro player than a cheeser.

Hard to be a cheeser if you only know 3 builds.


That's about all the PvZ builds, so why learn any more?

That's the difference between Zest and Bisu though... One revolutionized PvZ and the other looks good


Bisu is hotter than Zest.

Different types of attractive to be honest. Bisu's more fly, while Zest has that animalistic thing going on.

Bisu is incredibly overrated

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