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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 13 2018 05:31 GMT
#241
On January 13 2018 14:30 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2018 14:28 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 13 2018 14:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 13 2018 14:26 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 13 2018 14:23 Solar424 wrote:
How is Zerg supposed to win the late game when all of their effective late game units are countered by Ghosts? Fungal should drain energy, because right now Zerg has no way to counter spell casters, like Toss has with Feedback and Terran with EMP.

Fungal makes Ghosts useless

EMP makes Fungal non-existent more instantly

Doesn't fungal have more range than emp? Given perfect control Zerg should get fungals off first and then ghosts can't get in range to EMP anymore.

No, both Fungal and EMP have 10 range


Fungal has slightly more range due to the radius, but EMP's faster so it isn't totally symmetric.
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
January 13 2018 05:31 GMT
#242
I think I agree that the "correct play" for her was the counter-intuitive one...

aLive could have definitely pushed out with Ghosts earlier, made Hellions, Banshees or Liberators after the engagement and been fine, all I can think of Z doing is turtle more and make more Drones and offensive Spores/Spines but then you have to make the sacrifice for army count. In the past it was usually fine to do that with how quickly you could re-max, but in that game I don't there's a way to do that unless your opponent just does nothing. Idk. I need to watch it again but it's so exhausting.
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 13 2018 05:31 GMT
#243
aLive all warmed up now boiz
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 13 2018 05:32 GMT
#244
So is Scarlett trying roach-rav-infestor or something?
Denominator of the Universe
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 13 2018 05:32 GMT
#245
On January 13 2018 14:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2018 14:30 pvsnp wrote:
On January 13 2018 14:28 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 13 2018 14:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 13 2018 14:26 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 13 2018 14:23 Solar424 wrote:
How is Zerg supposed to win the late game when all of their effective late game units are countered by Ghosts? Fungal should drain energy, because right now Zerg has no way to counter spell casters, like Toss has with Feedback and Terran with EMP.

Fungal makes Ghosts useless

EMP makes Fungal non-existent more instantly

Doesn't fungal have more range than emp? Given perfect control Zerg should get fungals off first and then ghosts can't get in range to EMP anymore.

No, both Fungal and EMP have 10 range


Fungal has slightly more range due to the radius, but EMP's faster so it isn't totally symmetric.

EMP has range too. And if you try to use the fungal range youre going to hit like 3 ghosts which is worthless
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
January 13 2018 05:32 GMT
#246
it's always the same init
I Protoss winner, could it be?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 13 2018 05:33 GMT
#247
aLive in a strong position
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
January 13 2018 05:33 GMT
#248
On January 13 2018 14:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2018 14:28 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 13 2018 14:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 13 2018 14:26 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 13 2018 14:23 Solar424 wrote:
How is Zerg supposed to win the late game when all of their effective late game units are countered by Ghosts? Fungal should drain energy, because right now Zerg has no way to counter spell casters, like Toss has with Feedback and Terran with EMP.

Fungal makes Ghosts useless

EMP makes Fungal non-existent more instantly

Doesn't fungal have more range than emp? Given perfect control Zerg should get fungals off first and then ghosts can't get in range to EMP anymore.

Same range, 10 on both

But radius is 1.5 for EMP and 2.25 for EMP so the effective range is slightly higher for fungal.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
January 13 2018 05:33 GMT
#249
aLive has this
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 13 2018 05:33 GMT
#250
aLive can't lose from here
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
January 13 2018 05:33 GMT
#251
Darn. GG
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 13 2018 05:33 GMT
#252
RIP
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-13 05:34:33
January 13 2018 05:34 GMT
#253
The deja vu is real, Scarlett wins game 1 and gets into a winning position game 2 before losing the series

Same exact thing that happened against aLive last year in Season 1, and Inno in Season 3
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
January 13 2018 05:34 GMT
#254
Sad. Scarlett dead. But she wins the losers match and beats aLive in the rematch.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 13 2018 05:34 GMT
#255
DAMN tasteless taking away Scarlett's win with the 2-0 announcement. cold blooded
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
January 13 2018 05:34 GMT
#256
fuuuuuuuuuuuu


You'll get him later Scarlett!!!
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
January 13 2018 05:34 GMT
#257
And I just love how even after everything in the last game, it turns out Banshees are just fine to use instead of Liberators and Stim Marines are still ridiculously good, and the balance team thinks giving T Auto-Turrets back is fine...
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
v1p3r52
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand182 Posts
January 13 2018 05:34 GMT
#258
wow felt like she really should of won 2-0 , rip
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
January 13 2018 05:34 GMT
#259
i love that he kept the 2 banshees alive to continue to snipe drones and harass, especially good when its roaches instead of hydras
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
January 13 2018 05:34 GMT
#260
GG, loser match still another chance !
*burp*
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