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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24579 Posts
November 11 2017 16:14 GMT
#141
did Alive just take his hands off of the keyboard?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24579 Posts
November 11 2017 16:15 GMT
#142
Almost 4k gas and no minerals
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
November 11 2017 16:15 GMT
#143
Don't know what the casters are complaining about.

This is considered short for a snute game, it's not even reach an hour yet.
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 11 2017 16:15 GMT
#144
Don't really see what aLive can do in a game like this (on this map). He should definitely add a few Ravens, but that doesn't turn it around.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24579 Posts
November 11 2017 16:15 GMT
#145
The amazing thing is that alive wrote gg
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
November 11 2017 16:15 GMT
#146
So, how does a terran break that zerg composition?
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 11 2017 16:17 GMT
#147
On November 12 2017 01:15 usopsama wrote:
So, how does a terran break that zerg composition?

Don't let them get there.

Alternatively, take of advantage of its immobility by forcing them to run around and around. Kind of like what aLive was trying on Abyssal. The problem is it is impossible to clear creep enough for a game that goes that long.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24579 Posts
November 11 2017 16:19 GMT
#148
On November 12 2017 01:17 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 01:15 usopsama wrote:
So, how does a terran break that zerg composition?

Don't let them get there.

Alternatively, take of advantage of its immobility by forcing them to run around and around. Kind of like what aLive was trying on Abyssal. The problem is it is impossible to clear creep enough for a game that goes that long.


I've noticed that a lot of Terrans (and toss) have almost given up controlling creep in the early game too. It's weird.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 11 2017 16:19 GMT
#149
Snute says that Terran needs to go BCs and Yamato. Wouldn't the Zerg just murder them with as long as that transition would take?
tantalus
Profile Joined June 2012
69 Posts
November 11 2017 16:19 GMT
#150
Apparently Snute says the answer is Battlecruisers but even then he says Terran has a hard time.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 11 2017 16:19 GMT
#151
On November 12 2017 01:19 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 01:17 Boggyb wrote:
On November 12 2017 01:15 usopsama wrote:
So, how does a terran break that zerg composition?

Don't let them get there.

Alternatively, take of advantage of its immobility by forcing them to run around and around. Kind of like what aLive was trying on Abyssal. The problem is it is impossible to clear creep enough for a game that goes that long.


I've noticed that a lot of Terrans (and toss) have almost given up controlling creep in the early game too. It's weird.

aLive spent a lot of time trying to clear up creep that game.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
November 11 2017 16:20 GMT
#152
I think Snute is right, only way for Terran to play this is BCs+ repair drones and try to trade energy for units.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-11 16:22:00
November 11 2017 16:20 GMT
#153
On November 12 2017 01:12 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 01:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 12 2017 01:05 sneakyfox wrote:
Oh my god what is up with the observing?!

Allaryce is doing it.

I don't want to be too rude to her, but I would be more than fine if this was her only series today :/


Agree. Really it should be the organizers who step in and have someone else do it. Can't really blame someone for being bad at something they shouldn't be doing in the first place. Especially not while casting, which just makes it harder.


I hear her the first time. She has a great casting voice I think, likely even better when she is healthy again. But yeah, there are a few issues with her casting. The first is that she talks too much and doesn't let her co caster talk, even interrupting his part constantly. And the second is a lack of strategical understanding in the late game, like what is important and what not, and who is doing what and why is he doing that and who is winning. This was obviously especially showing in a Snute series. But I think these problems can be solved with more experience.
tantalus
Profile Joined June 2012
69 Posts
November 11 2017 16:21 GMT
#154
I want to see Terrans use battlecruisers with the teleport like protoss uses their army + recall. Can pick off hatcheries and then jump back to where they're needed.
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
November 11 2017 16:23 GMT
#155
On November 12 2017 01:20 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 01:12 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 12 2017 01:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 12 2017 01:05 sneakyfox wrote:
Oh my god what is up with the observing?!

Allaryce is doing it.

I don't want to be too rude to her, but I would be more than fine if this was her only series today :/


Agree. Really it should be the organizers who step in and have someone else do it. Can't really blame someone for being bad at something they shouldn't be doing in the first place. Especially not while casting, which just makes it harder.


I hear her the first time. She has a great casting voice I think, likely even better when she is healthy again. But yeah, there are a few issues with her casting. The first is that she talks too much and doesn't let her co caster talk, even interrupting his part constantly. And the second is a lack of strategical understanding in the late game, like what is important and what not, and who is doing what and why is he doing that and who is winning. This was obviously especially showing in a Snute series. But I think these things can be solved with more experience.



Come on, give her a break. Its Home Story Cup FFS. I never knew it was known for its serious casting.
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 11 2017 16:23 GMT
#156
That game was won with the Zergling attack that killed 6-7 SCVs which weakened aLive's push on the 3rd/4th which probably ends that game without eco damage.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
November 11 2017 16:24 GMT
#157
I think they should test reverting to the old creep if they decided to keep the same units, because now it put way to much pressure on terran with how fast the creep expend so zerg can get control of the middle of the map way to easy and then play super passive without risk.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
junghansmega
Profile Joined February 2008
United Kingdom36 Posts
November 11 2017 16:31 GMT
#158
What patch level /server are they playing on? I have never seen shield batteries and before. Pretty sure my LotV doesnt have them...
whatever
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 11 2017 16:32 GMT
#159
On November 12 2017 01:31 junghansmega wrote:
What patch level /server are they playing on? I have never seen shield batteries and before. Pretty sure my LotV doesnt have them...

They are playing on the balance test mod for the patch that will be coming on IIRC the 14th.
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-11 16:36:32
November 11 2017 16:34 GMT
#160
Holy shit, Elazer with The Plays.
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