• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:47
CEST 12:47
KST 19:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors12[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers20Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group D Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread 3D technology/software discussion European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2063 users

[HSC XVI] Group Stage - Day 3 - Page 8

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 25 Next All
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
November 11 2017 16:14 GMT
#141
did Alive just take his hands off of the keyboard?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
November 11 2017 16:15 GMT
#142
Almost 4k gas and no minerals
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
November 11 2017 16:15 GMT
#143
Don't know what the casters are complaining about.

This is considered short for a snute game, it's not even reach an hour yet.
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 11 2017 16:15 GMT
#144
Don't really see what aLive can do in a game like this (on this map). He should definitely add a few Ravens, but that doesn't turn it around.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
November 11 2017 16:15 GMT
#145
The amazing thing is that alive wrote gg
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
November 11 2017 16:15 GMT
#146
So, how does a terran break that zerg composition?
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 11 2017 16:17 GMT
#147
On November 12 2017 01:15 usopsama wrote:
So, how does a terran break that zerg composition?

Don't let them get there.

Alternatively, take of advantage of its immobility by forcing them to run around and around. Kind of like what aLive was trying on Abyssal. The problem is it is impossible to clear creep enough for a game that goes that long.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
November 11 2017 16:19 GMT
#148
On November 12 2017 01:17 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 01:15 usopsama wrote:
So, how does a terran break that zerg composition?

Don't let them get there.

Alternatively, take of advantage of its immobility by forcing them to run around and around. Kind of like what aLive was trying on Abyssal. The problem is it is impossible to clear creep enough for a game that goes that long.


I've noticed that a lot of Terrans (and toss) have almost given up controlling creep in the early game too. It's weird.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 11 2017 16:19 GMT
#149
Snute says that Terran needs to go BCs and Yamato. Wouldn't the Zerg just murder them with as long as that transition would take?
tantalus
Profile Joined June 2012
69 Posts
November 11 2017 16:19 GMT
#150
Apparently Snute says the answer is Battlecruisers but even then he says Terran has a hard time.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 11 2017 16:19 GMT
#151
On November 12 2017 01:19 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 01:17 Boggyb wrote:
On November 12 2017 01:15 usopsama wrote:
So, how does a terran break that zerg composition?

Don't let them get there.

Alternatively, take of advantage of its immobility by forcing them to run around and around. Kind of like what aLive was trying on Abyssal. The problem is it is impossible to clear creep enough for a game that goes that long.


I've noticed that a lot of Terrans (and toss) have almost given up controlling creep in the early game too. It's weird.

aLive spent a lot of time trying to clear up creep that game.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
November 11 2017 16:20 GMT
#152
I think Snute is right, only way for Terran to play this is BCs+ repair drones and try to trade energy for units.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-11 16:22:00
November 11 2017 16:20 GMT
#153
On November 12 2017 01:12 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 01:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 12 2017 01:05 sneakyfox wrote:
Oh my god what is up with the observing?!

Allaryce is doing it.

I don't want to be too rude to her, but I would be more than fine if this was her only series today :/


Agree. Really it should be the organizers who step in and have someone else do it. Can't really blame someone for being bad at something they shouldn't be doing in the first place. Especially not while casting, which just makes it harder.


I hear her the first time. She has a great casting voice I think, likely even better when she is healthy again. But yeah, there are a few issues with her casting. The first is that she talks too much and doesn't let her co caster talk, even interrupting his part constantly. And the second is a lack of strategical understanding in the late game, like what is important and what not, and who is doing what and why is he doing that and who is winning. This was obviously especially showing in a Snute series. But I think these problems can be solved with more experience.
tantalus
Profile Joined June 2012
69 Posts
November 11 2017 16:21 GMT
#154
I want to see Terrans use battlecruisers with the teleport like protoss uses their army + recall. Can pick off hatcheries and then jump back to where they're needed.
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
November 11 2017 16:23 GMT
#155
On November 12 2017 01:20 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2017 01:12 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 12 2017 01:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 12 2017 01:05 sneakyfox wrote:
Oh my god what is up with the observing?!

Allaryce is doing it.

I don't want to be too rude to her, but I would be more than fine if this was her only series today :/


Agree. Really it should be the organizers who step in and have someone else do it. Can't really blame someone for being bad at something they shouldn't be doing in the first place. Especially not while casting, which just makes it harder.


I hear her the first time. She has a great casting voice I think, likely even better when she is healthy again. But yeah, there are a few issues with her casting. The first is that she talks too much and doesn't let her co caster talk, even interrupting his part constantly. And the second is a lack of strategical understanding in the late game, like what is important and what not, and who is doing what and why is he doing that and who is winning. This was obviously especially showing in a Snute series. But I think these things can be solved with more experience.



Come on, give her a break. Its Home Story Cup FFS. I never knew it was known for its serious casting.
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 11 2017 16:23 GMT
#156
That game was won with the Zergling attack that killed 6-7 SCVs which weakened aLive's push on the 3rd/4th which probably ends that game without eco damage.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 11 2017 16:24 GMT
#157
I think they should test reverting to the old creep if they decided to keep the same units, because now it put way to much pressure on terran with how fast the creep expend so zerg can get control of the middle of the map way to easy and then play super passive without risk.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
junghansmega
Profile Joined February 2008
United Kingdom36 Posts
November 11 2017 16:31 GMT
#158
What patch level /server are they playing on? I have never seen shield batteries and before. Pretty sure my LotV doesnt have them...
whatever
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 11 2017 16:32 GMT
#159
On November 12 2017 01:31 junghansmega wrote:
What patch level /server are they playing on? I have never seen shield batteries and before. Pretty sure my LotV doesnt have them...

They are playing on the balance test mod for the patch that will be coming on IIRC the 14th.
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-11 16:36:32
November 11 2017 16:34 GMT
#160
Holy shit, Elazer with The Plays.
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 25 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro8 Match 1
Soma vs hero
Afreeca ASL 15300
StarCastTV_EN393
Liquipedia
Replay Cast
09:00
WardiTV Mondays #79
CranKy Ducklings107
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 139
Ryung 13
Rex 9
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 19146
Jaedong 7394
Sea 2695
BeSt 1190
Hyuk 869
EffOrt 869
Pusan 420
ZerO 420
actioN 367
Larva 260
[ Show more ]
Stork 206
Hyun 196
PianO 127
ToSsGirL 87
Aegong 65
Rush 62
Killer 56
Free 36
Nal_rA 24
Sacsri 21
HiyA 19
Shine 17
soO 15
yabsab 14
Barracks 14
Bale 13
Terrorterran 11
SilentControl 8
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
GoRush 7
Shinee 2
ggaemo 2
Dota 2
XaKoH 556
NeuroSwarm480
resolut1ontv 228
XcaliburYe79
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2192
shoxiejesuss1469
allub383
x6flipin297
zeus275
edward143
markeloff95
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor211
Other Games
singsing1696
B2W.Neo677
Happy269
Pyrionflax182
Mew2King53
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 283
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream238
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 14
lovetv 12
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
StarCraft 2
WardiTV0
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 38
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1390
• Stunt645
Other Games
• WagamamaTV318
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
13m
Rex0
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 13m
Replay Cast
13h 13m
Replay Cast
22h 13m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 13m
Leta vs YSC
GSL
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Escore
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
IPSL
5 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
IPSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Jaedong vs Light
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.