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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
November 05 2017 01:39 GMT
#2041
On November 05 2017 10:26 sf3000 wrote:
What if SoO built mutalisks?

Theres got to be a way

Fungals + Parasitic bomb.

soO just didn't have the tech to go up against Rogue's army. He'd have needed at least a greater spire and higher infestor / viper numbers. He also got outplayed by Rogue in the harassment game. Rogue's drops and burrowed runbys were amazing.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
November 05 2017 01:40 GMT
#2042
So happy for Rogue. Everyone who complains about players choking against him? Jealous of Rogue's ability to not choke, apparently.
Good games, deserving champion and great storyline! Rogue fighting!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 01:40:28
November 05 2017 01:40 GMT
#2043
wrong button
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 05 2017 01:41 GMT
#2044
On November 05 2017 10:38 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:25 Poopi wrote:
What a shitty esport day for me.
The worse scenarios happened LOL.
SKT getting trashed on, TY getting reverse sweeped, SpeCial losing I don't care that much but he did look bad vs soO so that's sad since people will keep trolling foreigners.

ZvZ final, I actually watched because I had to see soO finally win. But he loses.
Crap.

See SKT getting trashed on was the highlight of my day.

Samsung Taliyah is going to look great.


I've never watched LoL but hearing that SKT lost makes me happy

Korea also won the Overwatch but were disappointing compared to last year
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 05 2017 01:42 GMT
#2045
On November 05 2017 10:40 sparklyresidue wrote:
So happy for Rogue. Everyone who complains about players choking against him? Jealous of Rogue's ability to not choke, apparently.
Good games, deserving champion and great storyline! Rogue fighting!


No one saying Rogue played badly. But to deny that TY, soO and even Inno choked hard in this event is to deny facts
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
November 05 2017 01:42 GMT
#2046
Well, it was obvious. I felt sorry for soO in the moment, he has defeated Major. But Rogue the best. Deserves it. The final game was great!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
November 05 2017 01:43 GMT
#2047
korea also won hots. 2 days, 4 world championships for korea. not bad.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 01:44:10
November 05 2017 01:43 GMT
#2048
On November 05 2017 10:40 sparklyresidue wrote:
So happy for Rogue. Everyone who complains about players choking against him? Jealous of Rogue's ability to not choke, apparently.
Good games, deserving champion and great storyline! Rogue fighting!

TY didn't choke, but damn mech doesn't win games / series when you are not ahead at top level.
He should have cheesed more decisively three games in a row or smth.
WriterMaru
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 01:46:38
November 05 2017 01:46 GMT
#2049
On November 05 2017 10:43 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:40 sparklyresidue wrote:
So happy for Rogue. Everyone who complains about players choking against him? Jealous of Rogue's ability to not choke, apparently.
Good games, deserving champion and great storyline! Rogue fighting!

TY didn't choke, but damn mech doesn't win games / series when you are not ahead at top level.
He should have cheesed more decisively three games in a row or smth.


TY making 5 panic ebays, and following it up by not walling of any of his bases, and losing most of his forces accross the map to banelings? Sounds like a classic TY-is-up-2-0 choke to me
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
November 05 2017 01:50 GMT
#2050
On November 05 2017 10:34 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:32 starkiller123 wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:25 Poopi wrote:
What a shitty esport day for me.
The worse scenarios happened LOL.
SKT getting trashed on, TY getting reverse sweeped, SpeCial losing I don't care that much but he did look bad vs soO so that's sad since people will keep trolling foreigners.

ZvZ final, I actually watched because I had to see soO finally win. But he loses.
Crap.

today was at least ok for me cause i was cheering for Samsung....oh yeah and seeing korea win the overwatch thing again makes me happy

Yeah seeing Korea dominate yet another game is amazing, but I don't care that much about Overwatch.

Samsung is a cool team so it helps a bit.

Well, Rogue had an amazing end of the year so this win fits. INno forever bad at Blizzcon though.


i tried watching some Overwatch today and yesterday and it was better than i expected, I'm still skeptical at this point but who knows, I always liked Samsung's sc2 team so that carried over to their league team when i started watching last year
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States876 Posts
November 05 2017 01:52 GMT
#2051
Argh, so sad about finals result. I used to root for soO to lose in finals because it made for such an interesting story, but gosh darnit I just want to see him succeed on the big stage at least once.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
LordYama
Profile Joined August 2010
United States370 Posts
November 05 2017 01:57 GMT
#2052
On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:
Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.


This is a ridiculous and terrible thing to say, from someone who basically admits they haven't watched the game much to see Rogue's current level of ability

Rogue had to beat Inno and herO to win the GSL Super Tournament to even get to Blizzcon and had to beat herO again and TY and soO to win.

And the whole idea that "well this is a diminished era of SC2 so Rogue's achievement is diminished" is stupid when you consider the money at stake in this tournament. Even if there were only 10 progamers left their incentive to prepare and perform at the highest level has never been more.

If Innovation had won, would you have diminished his accomplishment in the same way, or is it his birthright to win and therefore right and proper?

To me it's admirable that Rogue is able to do stuff like win 3 straight against TY when up against it, very hard not to tilt or take stupid chances when in that situation. The fact that Rogue won so many game 5 and game 7 deciding games is impressive to me, when you win a bunch of those in a row it's not a coincidence that you just got lucky.

If you want to inform yourself, watch the VOD of Rogue beating Inno and herO in the semis and finals of GSL Super Tournament and tell me he's not good:





LordYama
Profile Joined August 2010
United States370 Posts
November 05 2017 01:59 GMT
#2053
Yeah the whole thing complaining about all these GSL heavyweights "choking" is stupid. That's competition. The player who performs to expectations DIDN'T choke and that deserves commendation. Just because someone was up at match point and lost two or three games to lose doesn't mean that they were necessarily on tilt, sometimes the player who was behind simply stepped up to the occasion to win.

Sometimes it's a little bit of both.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 05 2017 02:10 GMT
#2054
On November 05 2017 10:59 LordYama wrote:
Yeah the whole thing complaining about all these GSL heavyweights "choking" is stupid. That's competition. The player who performs to expectations DIDN'T choke and that deserves commendation. Just because someone was up at match point and lost two or three games to lose doesn't mean that they were necessarily on tilt, sometimes the player who was behind simply stepped up to the occasion to win.

Sometimes it's a little bit of both.


Normally I'd agree with this, but you can't deny obvious choking when it happens. TY completely tilted like every time he's up 2-0, soO's play was a train wreck towards the end, and Inno just went full Inno.

And I'm not saying Rogue didn't deserve to win btw, but it's still sad when it happens like this
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
November 05 2017 02:12 GMT
#2055
Grats Rogue.

I think the commentating was some of the worst in blizzcon finals history. I dont know if its how the mic was positioned or what but they were screaming into the mic and it sounded like they were going through puberty with the voice cracking, completely unnecessary.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
November 05 2017 02:26 GMT
#2056
Any recommended matches?
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
LordYama
Profile Joined August 2010
United States370 Posts
November 05 2017 02:33 GMT
#2057
On November 05 2017 11:26 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?


The final game of Rogue vs TY is really good, I think.

In the finals I think game 3 and game 6 are really good.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
November 05 2017 02:36 GMT
#2058
On November 05 2017 11:33 LordYama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 11:26 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?


The final game of Rogue vs TY is really good, I think.

In the finals I think game 3 and game 6 are really good.

Also Rogue TY game 4.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33479 Posts
November 05 2017 02:42 GMT
#2059
soO didn't explicitly ask us to cheer for rogue, so fuck rogue
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
LordYama
Profile Joined August 2010
United States370 Posts
November 05 2017 02:45 GMT
#2060
Rogue making the comment/dig about soO having problems in finals during the pre match intros was not cool. Probably just part of the mind games but I just don't like it.
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