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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
November 05 2017 01:10 GMT
#2001
On November 05 2017 10:05 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form

Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year.

Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then.

Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.

I'm glad we can magically decide players are never worthy of winning a championship .

Oh come on you know what I mean. For most players, the first few seasons kind of tell you their potential to actually make something happen. It's rare to sit in a mediocre position for a large period of time and then suddenly become consistently a contender. The easiest case to refer to is from dota with the VP roster with illidan and lil/fng. Great squad, but never a true contender.
The Bomber boy
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
November 05 2017 01:10 GMT
#2002
On November 05 2017 10:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:


One day soO... one day

prob not
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
November 05 2017 01:10 GMT
#2003
sad
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
November 05 2017 01:11 GMT
#2004
On November 05 2017 10:10 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:05 Ansibled wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form

Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year.

Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then.

Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.

I'm glad we can magically decide players are never worthy of winning a championship .

Oh come on you know what I mean. For most players, the first few seasons kind of tell you their potential to actually make something happen. It's rare to sit in a mediocre position for a large period of time and then suddenly become consistently a contender. The easiest case to refer to is from dota with the VP roster with illidan and lil/fng. Great squad, but never a true contender.

this is Barry Bonds all over again. Rogue is doping
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 01:11:49
November 05 2017 01:11 GMT
#2005
Kinda sad that Rogue didn't repeat this though, at least I don't think he did.

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
November 05 2017 01:12 GMT
#2006
On November 05 2017 10:02 Poopi wrote:
So fucking sad for both TY and soO.
Gratz Rogue but TY should have won to spare us from ZvZ + soO losing yet again

sad sad esport day

Sad day indeed. For soO, I can only imagine how terrible he must feel.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
November 05 2017 01:12 GMT
#2007
Relax, Blizzcon is just an over-glorified weekender anyway. Starleague is where the true GOATs duke it out.
gg no re thx
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18776 Posts
November 05 2017 01:12 GMT
#2008
On November 05 2017 10:10 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:05 Ansibled wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form

Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year.

Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then.

Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.

I'm glad we can magically decide players are never worthy of winning a championship .

Oh come on you know what I mean. For most players, the first few seasons kind of tell you their potential to actually make something happen. It's rare to sit in a mediocre position for a large period of time and then suddenly become consistently a contender. The easiest case to refer to is from dota with the VP roster with illidan and lil/fng. Great squad, but never a true contender.


broodwar had many players who were only "middle class" and then became champions and frequent title contenders...
You do know that at the highest level it's usually only nerves that are the difference?
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
November 05 2017 01:12 GMT
#2009
I'll always remember Rogue as the Zest's snipet during the time where he was invincible.
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
November 05 2017 01:13 GMT
#2010
The best players of the last few month won the tournament. Sadly another 2nd for soO but Rogue was just too good.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
November 05 2017 01:13 GMT
#2011
Im watching it all over again since the 0-2 vs TY
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
November 05 2017 01:13 GMT
#2012
On November 05 2017 10:07 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form

Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year.

Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then.

Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.

Was maybe.

Now he is the best zerg there is and incredibly hard working. The players he beat recently are exactly the players who were the greats in your "best era of sc2". Innovation, soO, herO, TY, Maru, Dear... or are all those players also players who couldn't do shit when the player pool was deeper back then?

Musicus, do you really think your argument about him beating them in this lower skill period holds any relevance when I talk about stuff in the past? All of those guys won tournaments when there was a larger pool of players/high level competition.

He might have changed, but my old view of him still lingers since I haven't watched enough these past two years to have an opinion that is relevant to respond to, lol.
The Bomber boy
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
November 05 2017 01:13 GMT
#2013
Can we crowdfund a matchfix so soO can win something?
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
November 05 2017 01:14 GMT
#2014
On November 05 2017 10:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
https://twitter.com/KotokoUmezawa/status/926974321465073665

One day soO... one day
Gotta move the other players up... the closer they get to the top, the funnier it gets
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 05 2017 01:14 GMT
#2015
I would love to be happy for Rogue atm because i really like him as a player, but i simply cannot right now.
TY losing was already tough, but man soO losing and getting 2nd again is just heartbreaking. Reminds me so much of 2013 when my favorite player ever lost in the finals, just emotional emptyness right now :/
I hope soO can bounce back from this, just like he did time and time again, that's exactly why i am a fan of him in the first place. He never gave up even if it was tempting. FIGHTING!
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
November 05 2017 01:15 GMT
#2016
On November 05 2017 10:12 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:10 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:05 Ansibled wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form

Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year.

Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then.

Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.

I'm glad we can magically decide players are never worthy of winning a championship .

Oh come on you know what I mean. For most players, the first few seasons kind of tell you their potential to actually make something happen. It's rare to sit in a mediocre position for a large period of time and then suddenly become consistently a contender. The easiest case to refer to is from dota with the VP roster with illidan and lil/fng. Great squad, but never a true contender.


broodwar had many players who were only "middle class" and then became champions and frequent title contenders...
You do know that at the highest level it's usually only nerves that are the difference?

I would agree with them becoming champions, but actually carry on and become more than a one hit wonder. Most turn out the same way as Sniper, Roro and the like.
The Bomber boy
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 01:16:09
November 05 2017 01:16 GMT
#2017
If soO ever comes back from this and wins a tournament he will be the greatest player of all time.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
November 05 2017 01:17 GMT
#2018
On November 05 2017 10:13 Morbidius wrote:
Can we crowdfund a matchfix so soO can win something?

I heard Life gambled away all his prize money so it'll be hard to crowdfund it now
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Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
November 05 2017 01:17 GMT
#2019
soO
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
November 05 2017 01:17 GMT
#2020
ok we hit over 100 pages this thread was a success and we all contributed towards restoring starcraft's rightful spot at the top of the esports hierarchy
The Bomber boy
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