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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
November 05 2017 01:02 GMT
#1981
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

lol that bullshit, how is TY any different from Rogue
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
November 05 2017 01:02 GMT
#1982
So fucking sad for both TY and soO.
Gratz Rogue but TY should have won to spare us from ZvZ + soO losing yet again

sad sad esport day
WriterMaru
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 05 2017 01:02 GMT
#1983
On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form

Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year.

Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then.

Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.
The Bomber boy
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16063 Posts
November 05 2017 01:03 GMT
#1984
On November 05 2017 10:01 Charoisaur wrote:
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On November 05 2017 10:00 Zephyp wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:58 Aegwynn wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:51 NExt wrote:
I'm confused at the end there. soO didn't remake tech, his production tab was empty for probs 5 mins.

Did he give up and just watch it all go down?

thats what choking really is

And he was sitting on 6000 minerals and 5000 gas.

he often breaks down in those lategame scenarios; remember game 1 against Gumiho in the GSL finals or his loss against TaeJa on Nimbus?

or the one time he build 74 corruptors against Yoda
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 05 2017 01:03 GMT
#1985
On November 05 2017 10:02 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

lol that bullshit, how is TY any different from Rogue

because we've been saying he's had potential since his progaming debut in 2001 when he was a 3rd trimester fetus!
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Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
November 05 2017 01:03 GMT
#1986
On November 05 2017 10:00 Zephyp wrote:
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On November 05 2017 09:58 Aegwynn wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:51 NExt wrote:
I'm confused at the end there. soO didn't remake tech, his production tab was empty for probs 5 mins.

Did he give up and just watch it all go down?

thats what choking really is

And he was sitting on 6000 minerals and 5000 gas.

He used them to make a ton of corruptors to deal the BLs but he didn't have a great spire. If he did, he could have made them into BLs and dealt with the mass hydras. It was really unfortunate. Also, his eco was so badly hurt. He was on 4 bases with 3 already mined out while Rogue was on 5 or 6 and continued to expand given he kept soO stuck on his side.

Heartbreaking for soO. He is GOAT without winning it big.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
November 05 2017 01:03 GMT
#1987
On November 05 2017 10:00 Zephyp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 09:58 Aegwynn wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:51 NExt wrote:
I'm confused at the end there. soO didn't remake tech, his production tab was empty for probs 5 mins.

Did he give up and just watch it all go down?

thats what choking really is

And he was sitting on 6000 minerals and 5000 gas.


Yea when there was no attempt to rebuild the hive, it looked like a slow death from then on.

Hard to really fault SoO for losing a ZvZ to a guy like Rogue though, hard to fault anyone for that really.
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 01:04:00
November 05 2017 01:03 GMT
#1988
On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form

Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year.

Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then.

Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.


People change, Rogue has really up'ed his game he is the best player in the world right now, he had the toughest road in the tournament and he won well.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 05 2017 01:04 GMT
#1989
I'm still mad that TY choked so hard in the ro4. He should have won this
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 05 2017 01:05 GMT
#1990
On November 05 2017 10:04 Fango wrote:
I'm still mad that TY choked so hard in the ro4. He should have won this


First Innovation choked, then TY choked, and then soO choked
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16063 Posts
November 05 2017 01:05 GMT
#1991
I'm still mad that Inno choked so hard in the ro8. He should have won this
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 05 2017 01:05 GMT
#1992
On November 05 2017 10:03 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form

Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year.

Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then.

Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.


People change, Rogue has really up'ed his game he is the best player in the world right now, he had the toughest road in the tournament and he won well.

Alright. Maybe that's the case. It's not like I watch this game a lot anymore, so I'm probably outdated.
The Bomber boy
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 05 2017 01:05 GMT
#1993
On November 05 2017 10:05 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:04 Fango wrote:
I'm still mad that TY choked so hard in the ro4. He should have won this


First Innovation choked, then TY choked, and then soO choked


Not even untrue
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 01:07:32
November 05 2017 01:05 GMT
#1994
On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form

Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year.

Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then.

Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.

I'm glad we can magically decide players are never worthy of winning a championship .

On November 05 2017 10:05 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:03 Zaros wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form

Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year.

Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then.

Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.


People change, Rogue has really up'ed his game he is the best player in the world right now, he had the toughest road in the tournament and he won well.

Alright. Maybe that's the case. It's not like I watch this game a lot anymore, so I'm probably outdated.

By all means flame the shit out of the champion though.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
November 05 2017 01:05 GMT
#1995
On November 05 2017 10:05 Charoisaur wrote:
I'm still mad that Inno choked so hard in the ro8. He should have won this


I'm still mad Maru choked so hard this year. He should have won this.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 05 2017 01:06 GMT
#1996
On November 05 2017 10:05 Charoisaur wrote:
I'm still mad that Inno choked so hard in the ro8. He should have won this


Yeah, it was our best chance to do away with this GOAT discussion, and now the momentum's gone.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 05 2017 01:07 GMT
#1997
On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form

Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year.

Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then.

Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.

Was maybe.

Now he is the best zerg there is and incredibly hard working. The players he beat recently are exactly the players who were the greats in your "best era of sc2". Innovation, soO, herO, TY, Maru, Dear... or are all those players also players who couldn't do shit when the player pool was deeper back then?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 01:08:49
November 05 2017 01:08 GMT
#1998
On November 05 2017 10:05 Charoisaur wrote:
I'm still mad that Inno choked so hard in the ro8. He should have won this

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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 05 2017 01:09 GMT
#1999
On November 05 2017 10:05 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 10:03 Zaros wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote:
honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole

nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special.

that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me

Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was.

oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past.

soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long.

the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form

Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year.

Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then.

Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.


People change, Rogue has really up'ed his game he is the best player in the world right now, he had the toughest road in the tournament and he won well.

Alright. Maybe that's the case. It's not like I watch this game a lot anymore, so I'm probably outdated.

well with the context changing a lot it's hard to grasp - the scene may be less competitive but the level is higher than ever
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 05 2017 01:09 GMT
#2000


One day soO... one day
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