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On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote: honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole
nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special. that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was. oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past. soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long. lol that bullshit, how is TY any different from Rogue
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So fucking sad for both TY and soO. Gratz Rogue but TY should have won to spare us from ZvZ + soO losing yet again
sad sad esport day
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On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote: honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole
nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special. that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was. oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past. soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long. the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year. Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then. Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.
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Germany15880 Posts
On November 05 2017 10:01 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 10:00 Zephyp wrote:On November 05 2017 09:58 Aegwynn wrote:On November 05 2017 09:51 NExt wrote: I'm confused at the end there. soO didn't remake tech, his production tab was empty for probs 5 mins.
Did he give up and just watch it all go down? thats what choking really is And he was sitting on 6000 minerals and 5000 gas. he often breaks down in those lategame scenarios; remember game 1 against Gumiho in the GSL finals or his loss against TaeJa on Nimbus? or the one time he build 74 corruptors against Yoda
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On November 05 2017 10:02 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote: honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole
nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special. that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was. oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past. soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long. lol that bullshit, how is TY any different from Rogue because we've been saying he's had potential since his progaming debut in 2001 when he was a 3rd trimester fetus!
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On November 05 2017 10:00 Zephyp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 09:58 Aegwynn wrote:On November 05 2017 09:51 NExt wrote: I'm confused at the end there. soO didn't remake tech, his production tab was empty for probs 5 mins.
Did he give up and just watch it all go down? thats what choking really is And he was sitting on 6000 minerals and 5000 gas. He used them to make a ton of corruptors to deal the BLs but he didn't have a great spire. If he did, he could have made them into BLs and dealt with the mass hydras. It was really unfortunate. Also, his eco was so badly hurt. He was on 4 bases with 3 already mined out while Rogue was on 5 or 6 and continued to expand given he kept soO stuck on his side.
Heartbreaking for soO. He is GOAT without winning it big.
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On November 05 2017 10:00 Zephyp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 09:58 Aegwynn wrote:On November 05 2017 09:51 NExt wrote: I'm confused at the end there. soO didn't remake tech, his production tab was empty for probs 5 mins.
Did he give up and just watch it all go down? thats what choking really is And he was sitting on 6000 minerals and 5000 gas.
Yea when there was no attempt to rebuild the hive, it looked like a slow death from then on.
Hard to really fault SoO for losing a ZvZ to a guy like Rogue though, hard to fault anyone for that really.
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On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote: honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole
nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special. that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was. oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past. soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long. the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year. Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then. Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win.
People change, Rogue has really up'ed his game he is the best player in the world right now, he had the toughest road in the tournament and he won well.
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I'm still mad that TY choked so hard in the ro4. He should have won this
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On November 05 2017 10:04 Fango wrote: I'm still mad that TY choked so hard in the ro4. He should have won this
First Innovation choked, then TY choked, and then soO choked
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Germany15880 Posts
I'm still mad that Inno choked so hard in the ro8. He should have won this
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On November 05 2017 10:03 Zaros wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote: honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole
nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special. that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was. oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past. soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long. the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year. Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then. Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win. People change, Rogue has really up'ed his game he is the best player in the world right now, he had the toughest road in the tournament and he won well. Alright. Maybe that's the case. It's not like I watch this game a lot anymore, so I'm probably outdated.
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On November 05 2017 10:05 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 10:04 Fango wrote: I'm still mad that TY choked so hard in the ro4. He should have won this First Innovation choked, then TY choked, and then soO choked
Not even untrue
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On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote: honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole
nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special. that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was. oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past. soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long. the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year. Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then. Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win. I'm glad we can magically decide players are never worthy of winning a championship .
On November 05 2017 10:05 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 10:03 Zaros wrote:On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote: honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole
nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special. that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was. oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past. soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long. the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year. Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then. Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win. People change, Rogue has really up'ed his game he is the best player in the world right now, he had the toughest road in the tournament and he won well. Alright. Maybe that's the case. It's not like I watch this game a lot anymore, so I'm probably outdated. By all means flame the shit out of the champion though.
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On November 05 2017 10:05 Charoisaur wrote: I'm still mad that Inno choked so hard in the ro8. He should have won this
I'm still mad Maru choked so hard this year. He should have won this.
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On November 05 2017 10:05 Charoisaur wrote: I'm still mad that Inno choked so hard in the ro8. He should have won this
Yeah, it was our best chance to do away with this GOAT discussion, and now the momentum's gone.
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On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote: honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole
nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special. that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was. oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past. soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long. the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year. Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then. Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win. Was maybe.
Now he is the best zerg there is and incredibly hard working. The players he beat recently are exactly the players who were the greats in your "best era of sc2". Innovation, soO, herO, TY, Maru, Dear... or are all those players also players who couldn't do shit when the player pool was deeper back then?
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On November 05 2017 10:05 Charoisaur wrote: I'm still mad that Inno choked so hard in the ro8. He should have won this
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On November 05 2017 10:05 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2017 10:03 Zaros wrote:On November 05 2017 10:02 Wintex wrote:On November 05 2017 10:00 Musicus wrote:On November 05 2017 09:58 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:57 Wintex wrote:On November 05 2017 09:55 Boggyb wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2017 09:54 Wintex wrote: honestly rogue is whatever when winning. the soO storyline would have been so much better for the game as a whole
nothing against the guy, but a rogue kind of guy would never have won in the past, while soO is special. that is completely your opinion. Rogue is plenty special to me Seriously. People need to look at Rogue's 2016 results and realize how far he has come and how amazing this run was. oh my god dude who cares about that 2016 and 17 have been a sham compared to sc2 of the past. soO and TY are different almost qualitatively from Rogue. Shame the hot streak lasted this long. the only thing different about them is that they had fans in bw but Rogue was one of the hottest players coming into the tournament off the back of the super tournament win. soO has had long streaks of terrible matchups this year. Form is everything and Rogue came into the tournament with top 2 form Rogue was also great in SPL, I always had him on my FPL team and it pretty much always paid off. It's not like he did nothing before this year. Tons of ro8s in GSL too back then. Rogue was a middle class never-going-to-be-a-champion player bar a super nice event where everything clicks. Now the pool allows him to win. People change, Rogue has really up'ed his game he is the best player in the world right now, he had the toughest road in the tournament and he won well. Alright. Maybe that's the case. It's not like I watch this game a lot anymore, so I'm probably outdated. well with the context changing a lot it's hard to grasp - the scene may be less competitive but the level is higher than ever
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