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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
October 29 2017 23:52 GMT
#1841
On October 30 2017 08:49 starkiller123 wrote:
Special > Elazer
soO < Gumiho
herO> Rogue
INnoVation > TY

Gumiho > Special
herO< INnoVation

INnoVation>Gumiho



INno/Gumi will be the worst Blizzcon I've ever see. But if INno win I'm ok (and also to win he needs to beat TY and herO/Rogue, so he will definitively earn his title
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2665 Posts
October 29 2017 23:52 GMT
#1842
People thinking Blizzard went full mafia literally rigging the brackets it's so hilarious.

Special had 50% chance to draw Elazer, a chance he got by defeating 2 top Koreans.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 29 2017 23:54 GMT
#1843
On October 30 2017 08:52 Mun_Su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:49 starkiller123 wrote:
Special > Elazer
soO < Gumiho
herO> Rogue
INnoVation > TY

Gumiho > Special
herO< INnoVation

INnoVation>Gumiho



INno/Gumi will be the worst Blizzcon I've ever see. But if INno win I'm ok (and also to win he needs to beat TY and herO/Rogue, so he will definitively earn his title


yes i agree, this bracket it awful, TY looks pretty bad, i don't think he will have any trouble except in the Ro4
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
713 Posts
October 29 2017 23:54 GMT
#1844
On October 30 2017 08:52 Lexender wrote:
People thinking Blizzard went full mafia literally rigging the brackets it's so hilarious.

Special had 50% chance to draw Elazer, a chance he got by defeating 2 top Koreans.


was 1/3, people are still stupid for reacting this way
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
October 29 2017 23:55 GMT
#1845
It's so UNFAIR, all these SUPERIOR players have to play each other just because the performed worse!!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
October 29 2017 23:55 GMT
#1846
On October 30 2017 08:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:50 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:47 usopsama wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:42 The_Templar wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 The_Templar wrote:
I wasn't looking at the stream - how was the bracket determined exactly?


It was drawn with 1st place vs 2nd place, and players in the same group on opposite of bracket.

So 1 of the 2-3 possible opponents were drawn randomly for each player coming out in first?


Yeah first draw all players finishing first, then draw the 1 out of 2 possible opponents. Like usual.

And it gets tiresome how whiny people are about bracket draws. Blizzard would have to rig brackets to make people here happy.

it happens 1 time - maybe luck.
But that 2 years in a row the bracket guarantees 1 foreigner in the ro4 makes me slightly suspicious.

THIS


Not THIS at all. Do you understand how likely it is to actually draw 2 foreigners to play against each other when one of them comes 1st and one of them comes 2nd, and they're in different groups (obviously).

Very very high.


It's 1/3.

last year the probability was 2/3 with 2 foreigners advancing in second this year 1/3.
the probability that both things happen is 1/3 * 2/3 = 0,222222.

I stand by it, it's slightly suspicious.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
October 29 2017 23:56 GMT
#1847
On October 30 2017 08:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:50 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:47 usopsama wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:42 The_Templar wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 The_Templar wrote:
I wasn't looking at the stream - how was the bracket determined exactly?


It was drawn with 1st place vs 2nd place, and players in the same group on opposite of bracket.

So 1 of the 2-3 possible opponents were drawn randomly for each player coming out in first?


Yeah first draw all players finishing first, then draw the 1 out of 2 possible opponents. Like usual.

And it gets tiresome how whiny people are about bracket draws. Blizzard would have to rig brackets to make people here happy.

it happens 1 time - maybe luck.
But that 2 years in a row the bracket guarantees 1 foreigner in the ro4 makes me slightly suspicious.

THIS


Not THIS at all. Do you understand how likely it is to actually draw 2 foreigners to play against each other when one of them comes 1st and one of them comes 2nd, and they're in different groups (obviously).

Very very high.


It's 1/3.

Except, Blizzard rigged it to 1/2.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2665 Posts
October 29 2017 23:56 GMT
#1848
On October 30 2017 08:54 GoloSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:52 Lexender wrote:
People thinking Blizzard went full mafia literally rigging the brackets it's so hilarious.

Special had 50% chance to draw Elazer, a chance he got by defeating 2 top Koreans.


was 1/3, people are still stupid for reacting this way


It's 1/2 he could only get a 2nd place who was also on the other side of the bracket.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-29 23:56:16
October 29 2017 23:56 GMT
#1849
herO/Rogue/Inno is almost 33/33/33. TY has little chance unless SpeCial teaches him how to beat Inno
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 29 2017 23:56 GMT
#1850
On October 30 2017 08:47 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 06:53 Ej_ wrote:
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TL.net moderation is so corrupted.

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The mods wish they had an office. They're probably sitting around in their underwear at home
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
October 29 2017 23:57 GMT
#1851
On October 30 2017 08:50 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:42 The_Templar wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 The_Templar wrote:
I wasn't looking at the stream - how was the bracket determined exactly?


It was drawn with 1st place vs 2nd place, and players in the same group on opposite of bracket.

So 1 of the 2-3 possible opponents were drawn randomly for each player coming out in first?


Yeah first draw all players finishing first, then draw the 1 out of 2 possible opponents. Like usual.

And it gets tiresome how whiny people are about bracket draws. Blizzard would have to rig brackets to make people here happy.

it happens 1 time - maybe luck.
But that 2 years in a row the bracket guarantees 1 foreigner in the ro4 makes me slightly suspicious.


You should take a course on probabilities. And last year there was a 2/3 chance of a guaranteed foreigner in the Ro4.


They don't know that the "rigged" sh*t is a meme, kinda sad.

Memes are sad. Very sad. Make the internet great again.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
713 Posts
October 29 2017 23:57 GMT
#1852
On October 30 2017 08:55 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:50 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:47 usopsama wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:42 The_Templar wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 The_Templar wrote:
I wasn't looking at the stream - how was the bracket determined exactly?


It was drawn with 1st place vs 2nd place, and players in the same group on opposite of bracket.

So 1 of the 2-3 possible opponents were drawn randomly for each player coming out in first?


Yeah first draw all players finishing first, then draw the 1 out of 2 possible opponents. Like usual.

And it gets tiresome how whiny people are about bracket draws. Blizzard would have to rig brackets to make people here happy.

it happens 1 time - maybe luck.
But that 2 years in a row the bracket guarantees 1 foreigner in the ro4 makes me slightly suspicious.

THIS


Not THIS at all. Do you understand how likely it is to actually draw 2 foreigners to play against each other when one of them comes 1st and one of them comes 2nd, and they're in different groups (obviously).

Very very high.


It's 1/3.

last year the probability was 2/3 with 2 foreigners advancing in second this year 1/3.
the probability that both things happen is 1/3 * 2/3 = 0,222222.

I stand by it, it's slightly suspicious.

~1/5 is far from suspicious though
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
Uberfather
Profile Joined June 2017
272 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-29 23:58:11
October 29 2017 23:57 GMT
#1853
QUOTE]On October 30 2017 08:43 Carminedust wrote:
I like for the second year in a row that by some luck that we are guarantee a foreigner in the semi finals [/QUOTE]

by some luck and the koreans letting a foreigner top their group

On October 30 2017 08:45 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:42 The_Templar wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 The_Templar wrote:
I wasn't looking at the stream - how was the bracket determined exactly?


It was drawn with 1st place vs 2nd place, and players in the same group on opposite of bracket.

So 1 of the 2-3 possible opponents were drawn randomly for each player coming out in first?


Yeah first draw all players finishing first, then draw the 1 out of 2 possible opponents. Like usual.

And it gets tiresome how whiny people are about bracket draws. Blizzard would have to rig brackets to make people here happy.

its just disappointing to have the top 3 players all on one side of the bracket


this is all rogue`s fault, now hero and innovation have to pay for it...


On October 30 2017 08:46 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:42 The_Templar wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 The_Templar wrote:
I wasn't looking at the stream - how was the bracket determined exactly?


It was drawn with 1st place vs 2nd place, and players in the same group on opposite of bracket.

So 1 of the 2-3 possible opponents were drawn randomly for each player coming out in first?


Yeah first draw all players finishing first, then draw the 1 out of 2 possible opponents. Like usual.

And it gets tiresome how whiny people are about bracket draws. Blizzard would have to rig brackets to make people here happy.

it happens 1 time - maybe luck.
But that 2 years in a row the bracket guarantees 1 foreigner in the ro4 makes me slightly suspicious.


what do you think are the odds? between 1 in 5 and 1 in 4 i think

edit: oops
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 29 2017 23:57 GMT
#1854
On October 30 2017 08:52 Lexender wrote:
People thinking Blizzard went full mafia literally rigging the brackets it's so hilarious.

Special had 50% chance to draw Elazer, a chance he got by defeating 2 top Koreans.

Blizzard region locked tournaments then swapped to a format that makes it easier for upsets to happen. If you don't think that there is a chance that they'd rig the brackets to increase the chance of a Korean/Non-Korean finals, you're delusional. They obviously think that Koreans vs. Non-Koreans have the highest viewer appeal.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
October 29 2017 23:57 GMT
#1855
On October 30 2017 08:56 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:54 GoloSC2 wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:52 Lexender wrote:
People thinking Blizzard went full mafia literally rigging the brackets it's so hilarious.

Special had 50% chance to draw Elazer, a chance he got by defeating 2 top Koreans.


was 1/3, people are still stupid for reacting this way


It's 1/2 he could only get a 2nd place who was also on the other side of the bracket.

what do you mean with other side of the bracket? why shouldn't Special be able to play vs Rogue?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
October 29 2017 23:58 GMT
#1856
On October 30 2017 08:57 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:56 Lexender wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:54 GoloSC2 wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:52 Lexender wrote:
People thinking Blizzard went full mafia literally rigging the brackets it's so hilarious.

Special had 50% chance to draw Elazer, a chance he got by defeating 2 top Koreans.


was 1/3, people are still stupid for reacting this way


It's 1/2 he could only get a 2nd place who was also on the other side of the bracket.

what do you mean with other side of the bracket? why shouldn't Special be able to play vs Rogue?

No rematches before finals, so with soO on that side, Rogue couldn't be.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-29 23:59:14
October 29 2017 23:58 GMT
#1857
On October 30 2017 08:56 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:50 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:47 usopsama wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:42 The_Templar wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:41 The_Templar wrote:
I wasn't looking at the stream - how was the bracket determined exactly?


It was drawn with 1st place vs 2nd place, and players in the same group on opposite of bracket.

So 1 of the 2-3 possible opponents were drawn randomly for each player coming out in first?


Yeah first draw all players finishing first, then draw the 1 out of 2 possible opponents. Like usual.

And it gets tiresome how whiny people are about bracket draws. Blizzard would have to rig brackets to make people here happy.

it happens 1 time - maybe luck.
But that 2 years in a row the bracket guarantees 1 foreigner in the ro4 makes me slightly suspicious.

THIS


Not THIS at all. Do you understand how likely it is to actually draw 2 foreigners to play against each other when one of them comes 1st and one of them comes 2nd, and they're in different groups (obviously).

Very very high.


It's 1/3.

Except, Blizzard rigged it to 1/2.


Are you an idiot? They drew one out of two balls because soO ended up on his side of the bracket. If herO had ended up on MajOr's side of the bracket Elazer would not have been a possibility and they would have drawn one of Rogue or GuMiho.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 29 2017 23:58 GMT
#1858
On October 30 2017 08:57 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:56 Lexender wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:54 GoloSC2 wrote:
On October 30 2017 08:52 Lexender wrote:
People thinking Blizzard went full mafia literally rigging the brackets it's so hilarious.

Special had 50% chance to draw Elazer, a chance he got by defeating 2 top Koreans.


was 1/3, people are still stupid for reacting this way


It's 1/2 he could only get a 2nd place who was also on the other side of the bracket.

what do you mean with other side of the bracket? why shouldn't Special be able to play vs Rogue?


i don't think so, Rogue and soO can't be on the same side of the bracket because they were in the same group
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
713 Posts
October 29 2017 23:58 GMT
#1859
On October 30 2017 08:57 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 08:52 Lexender wrote:
People thinking Blizzard went full mafia literally rigging the brackets it's so hilarious.

Special had 50% chance to draw Elazer, a chance he got by defeating 2 top Koreans.

Blizzard region locked tournaments then swapped to a format that makes it easier for upsets to happen. If you don't think that there is a chance that they'd rig the brackets to increase the chance of a Korean/Non-Korean finals, you're delusional. They obviously think that Koreans vs. Non-Koreans have the highest viewer appeal.


which made them pair the foreigners?
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 29 2017 23:59 GMT
#1860
this sucks, I wanted to see them go against koreans.
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