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[GSL Code S] Season 3 2017 - Semifinals Day 2 - Page 19

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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
September 09 2017 06:40 GMT
#361
ASL starts tomorrow?! Hyyyype
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
September 09 2017 06:40 GMT
#362
I'm a bit sad this is only a semi. It should've been the final. This semi is 1000x times better than the beatdown series between Stats vs sOs.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 09 2017 06:40 GMT
#363
TvP is Bogus worst M-U atm. He needs to fix it, and will probably train only that for the final
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16007 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-09 06:41:56
September 09 2017 06:41 GMT
#364
On September 09 2017 15:37 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 15:36 Sakat wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Soon Inno will have the same amount of code s titles as Mvp, just saying

And with the GSL vs World, he has the same amount of GSL titles



I'm waiting for Olli answer

Inno's wins aren't legit because he just wins because of terran imbalance and has a healthy body.
Also he didn't contribute anything to the metagame unlike TaeJa and Mvp which makes him worth less.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
September 09 2017 06:41 GMT
#365
On September 09 2017 15:34 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 15:33 DieuCure wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:30 Twinkle Toes wrote:
I mean Inno has epic skills, but terran has such a deep bag of tricks its difficult to break even when you are even skills-wise and army-wise. Gratz on Inno!

Good games!



Dark wasn't ready for mech, that's all, just look at TY vs Dark, Bio vs Dark is impossible even at the higher lvl.

true, but how do you not understand that he couldn't have gone SH. that was one of the main points of the 2star build, to transition into mech without them being able to go SH early on...hopefully doing damage as well

Yeah. Its like ZvT is Z playing genius aggression level or going standard and playing hardcore defense until Hive tech. You cant play straight up standard vs. T. Early game you have to deflect harass, and you cant harass either with paperlings. Double and you have to watch for drops. Straight Lair and T simply walks you through with battlemech. a good Terran can answer everything great Zergs can do.
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 09 2017 06:42 GMT
#366
On September 09 2017 15:40 Mun_Su wrote:
TvP is Bogus worst M-U atm. He needs to fix it, and will probably train only that for the final

I think he struggles vs protoss players who can get into lategame, not sure if sOs can do that tbh. We will see.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 09 2017 06:42 GMT
#367
These were the finals we deserved, Inno is going to roll sOs.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 09 2017 06:42 GMT
#368
On September 09 2017 15:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 15:37 DieuCure wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:36 Sakat wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Soon Inno will have the same amount of code s titles as Mvp, just saying

And with the GSL vs World, he has the same amount of GSL titles



I'm waiting for Olli answer

Inno's wins aren't legit because he just wins because of terran imbalance and has a healthy body.
Also he didn't contribute anything to the metagame unlike TaeJa and Mvp which makes him worth less.


Rofl, nice one
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Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
September 09 2017 06:42 GMT
#369
On September 09 2017 15:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 15:37 DieuCure wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:36 Sakat wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Soon Inno will have the same amount of code s titles as Mvp, just saying

And with the GSL vs World, he has the same amount of GSL titles



I'm waiting for Olli answer

Inno's wins aren't legit because he just wins because of terran imbalance and has a healthy body.
Also he didn't contribute anything to the metagame unlike TaeJa and Mvp which makes him worth less.

Didn't innovation kinda pioneered the never ending push in hots?
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 09 2017 06:44 GMT
#370
On September 09 2017 15:42 Isualin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 15:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:37 DieuCure wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:36 Sakat wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Soon Inno will have the same amount of code s titles as Mvp, just saying

And with the GSL vs World, he has the same amount of GSL titles



I'm waiting for Olli answer

Inno's wins aren't legit because he just wins because of terran imbalance and has a healthy body.
Also he didn't contribute anything to the metagame unlike TaeJa and Mvp which makes him worth less.

Didn't innovation kinda pioneered the never ending push in hots?

Innovation has shaken up the Terran meta many times, he just has this neverending hate train against him.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-09 06:45:27
September 09 2017 06:44 GMT
#371
TvP is Bogus worst M-U atm. He needs to fix it, and will probably train only that for the final



On September 09 2017 15:44 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 15:42 Isualin wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:37 DieuCure wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:36 Sakat wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Soon Inno will have the same amount of code s titles as Mvp, just saying

And with the GSL vs World, he has the same amount of GSL titles



I'm waiting for Olli answer

Inno's wins aren't legit because he just wins because of terran imbalance and has a healthy body.
Also he didn't contribute anything to the metagame unlike TaeJa and Mvp which makes him worth less.

Didn't innovation kinda pioneered the never ending push in hots?

Innovation has shaken up the Terran meta many times, he just has this neverending hate train against him.



Charoisaur is carricaturing INno's haters. But in fact, he fucking likes the Machine.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16007 Posts
September 09 2017 06:44 GMT
#372
On September 09 2017 15:42 Isualin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 15:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:37 DieuCure wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:36 Sakat wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Soon Inno will have the same amount of code s titles as Mvp, just saying

And with the GSL vs World, he has the same amount of GSL titles



I'm waiting for Olli answer

Inno's wins aren't legit because he just wins because of terran imbalance and has a healthy body.
Also he didn't contribute anything to the metagame unlike TaeJa and Mvp which makes him worth less.

Didn't innovation kinda pioneered the never ending push in hots?

Nah he's a patchterran who just copies whichever build is currently the most used and abuses it to its fullest.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
September 09 2017 06:46 GMT
#373
On September 09 2017 15:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 15:37 DieuCure wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:36 Sakat wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Soon Inno will have the same amount of code s titles as Mvp, just saying

And with the GSL vs World, he has the same amount of GSL titles



I'm waiting for Olli answer

Inno's wins aren't legit because he just wins because of terran imbalance and has a healthy body.
Also he didn't contribute anything to the metagame unlike TaeJa and Mvp which makes him worth less.

Maybe Innovation is SC2 version of Flash. No creative plays and no meta-changing builds or tactics. But he does everything precisely and never misses a beat and knows how to take full advantage of Terran's strengths.
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
September 09 2017 06:47 GMT
#374
When is the finals btw
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 09 2017 06:47 GMT
#375
People should make fun of the notion that we can easily say who came up with strategies. Not about Inno not doing innovating. This whole idea of "player x" gets all the credit for meta changes is stupid in the first place.
Even the Bisu one in bw is just a narrative and not actual truth.
All we can really say is who actually won with certain strategies, which is what we value already. results.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
September 09 2017 06:47 GMT
#376
On September 09 2017 15:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Soon Inno will have the same amount of code s titles as Mvp, just saying


Inno's GSL titles are much more impressive since they are spread out in a much longer period of time and that shows how consistently good he is. Let's just imagine if there are 4 GSLs every year like the old MVP days, Inno would have won a hell of a lot of GSL titles.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 09 2017 06:47 GMT
#377
On September 09 2017 15:47 Twinkle Toes wrote:
When is the finals btw


Next Saturday 17kst
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16007 Posts
September 09 2017 06:48 GMT
#378
On September 09 2017 15:46 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 15:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:37 DieuCure wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:36 Sakat wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Soon Inno will have the same amount of code s titles as Mvp, just saying

And with the GSL vs World, he has the same amount of GSL titles



I'm waiting for Olli answer

Inno's wins aren't legit because he just wins because of terran imbalance and has a healthy body.
Also he didn't contribute anything to the metagame unlike TaeJa and Mvp which makes him worth less.

Maybe Innovation is SC2 version of Flash. No creative plays and no meta-changing builds or tactics. But he does everything precisely and never misses a beat and knows how to take full advantage of Terran's strengths.

Uhmm didn't he just pull out a 2 SP banshee into mech build?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 09 2017 06:49 GMT
#379
On September 09 2017 15:47 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 15:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Soon Inno will have the same amount of code s titles as Mvp, just saying


Inno's GSL titles are much more impressive since they are spread out in a much longer period of time and that shows how consistently good he is. Let's just imagine if there are 8 GSLs every year like the old MVP days, Inno would have won a hell of a lot of GSL titles.

Fixed that for you.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
September 09 2017 06:49 GMT
#380
On September 09 2017 15:42 Isualin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 15:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:37 DieuCure wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:36 Sakat wrote:
On September 09 2017 15:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Soon Inno will have the same amount of code s titles as Mvp, just saying

And with the GSL vs World, he has the same amount of GSL titles



I'm waiting for Olli answer

Inno's wins aren't legit because he just wins because of terran imbalance and has a healthy body.
Also he didn't contribute anything to the metagame unlike TaeJa and Mvp which makes him worth less.

Didn't innovation kinda pioneered the never ending push in hots?

Yes.
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