EPT[WCS] Montreal 2017 - Group Stage Day 1 - Page 15
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The_Red_Viper
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Solar424
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Jacenoob
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Shellshock
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On September 09 2017 10:14 Solar424 wrote: I don't know why this Hellion/Cyclone style fell out of favor. Seems so broken. people still use it like every game in team games. 3v3 ahead of the 1v1 meta | ||
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Fango
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On September 09 2017 10:13 The_Red_Viper wrote: It's just so wrong that ~20 oracles beat ~30 hydras tbh. Shouldn't be the case It was 26 oracles (3900/3900) vs 36 hydras (3600/1800) to be exact | ||
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Jacenoob
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On September 09 2017 10:17 Fango wrote: It was 26 oracles (3900/3900) vs 36 hydras (3600/1800) to be exact Also TLO made a Lurker Den as a tech choice against this, maybe that was not optimal. | ||
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ElehpantZ
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On September 09 2017 10:20 Jacenoob wrote: Also TLO made a Lurker Den as a tech choice against this, maybe that was not optimal. only fungo would've worked | ||
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fastr
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On September 09 2017 10:17 Fango wrote: It was 26 oracles (3900/3900) vs 36 hydras (3600/1800) to be exact Correct, but oracles move twice as fast, offers infinite scouting/detection/harass, they cand landmine the map, oh and they fly btw | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On September 09 2017 10:17 Fango wrote: It was 26 oracles (3900/3900) vs 36 hydras (3600/1800) to be exact Sure, the exact numbers aren't really that important though imo. In my eyes flying units should basically always lose these engagements in head on fights. The strength should be abusing terrain. The more mobile you are the more dangerous it is to also be strong in direct engagements. | ||
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Shellshock
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Avicularia
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OsaX Nymloth
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bulya
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fastr
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Fango
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On September 09 2017 10:23 The_Red_Viper wrote: Sure, the exact numbers aren't really that important though imo. In my eyes flying units should basically always lose these engagements in head on fights. The strength should be abusing terrain. The more mobile you are the more dangerous it is to also be strong in direct engagements. I agree. But in this case Has's army was vastly more expensive. If you're on the same income, 26 oracles is the same as around 59 hydras, almost double what TLO had. And zerg should typically have slighty larger income anyway. I do think that mass oracle is slightly overpowered btw, but Has was just so far ahead in that game anyway btw, I don't play zerg but would 39 mutas beat 36 hydras? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On September 09 2017 10:33 bulya wrote: 4 polish players in the RO16, but all of them qualified from the deciders match. saving their strength for the playoffs | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On September 09 2017 10:34 Fango wrote: I agree. But in this case Has's army was vastly more expensive. If you're on the same income, 26 oracles is the same as around 59 hydras, almost double what TLO had. And zerg should typically have slighty larger income anyway. I do think that mass oracle is slightly overpowered btw, but Has was just so far ahead in that game anyway btw, I don't play zerg but would 39 mutas beat 36 hydras? Yes it was more expensive, but the cost of an army alone doesn't mean it should beat the other army. Oracles cost a lot because they fly and have utility outside of their attack. You cannot just look at the army cost and say "well it costs more it should beat the other army". And no i don't think the mutas would win that | ||
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Fango
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On September 09 2017 10:49 Fango wrote: Will BSTV reveal the brackets to us? nah mystery bracket tomorrow with players playing off camera and no names on the overlay | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 09 2017 10:50 Shellshock wrote: nah mystery bracket tomorrow with players playing off camera and no names on the overlay I wonder if the players have been told the brackets lol | ||
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