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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 24 2017 12:13 GMT
#1201
On June 24 2017 21:10 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2017 21:08 DieuCure wrote:
On June 24 2017 21:06 Fango wrote:
On June 24 2017 21:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On June 24 2017 21:01 Saechiis wrote:
Reading Avilo's twitter is making me feel better, woudl recommend.

Never thought I'd read that sentence in a lifetime


why do people give him attention. he's not even a good player


If he isnt that good but still one of the sc2"s streamer with more than 500 viewers there is reasons.

He is funny.


it's painful to watch.

at least idra back was a good player so the whining was kinda funny


You dont like the absurd, do you?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 24 2017 12:25 GMT
#1202
Easiest 7 points since last season
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland955 Posts
June 24 2017 12:41 GMT
#1203
Games were good, enjoyable finals. soO still stuck in his loop.
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-24 13:21:58
June 24 2017 13:07 GMT
#1204
Did soO choke again or did Gumi just get the better of him? I can't believe it happened again.

Also soO is the only player to make multiple GSL finals without a title right? No other finalist loser has made it back to finals beside mvp, who had his GSL wins right?

EDIT: lol nvm MKP exists
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
June 24 2017 13:17 GMT
#1205
It's been 9 MONTHS since Zerg won a Premier tournament. It's been more than 2 years since Zerg won a GSL. No race has ever had this long of a drought in the history of the game. If Terran went this long without winning something there would be a bunch of Reddit posts and a few TL articles. At some point there being a bunch of ZvZ in foreign tournaments becomes irrelevant when the race is borderline nonviable at the highest level.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-24 13:30:35
June 24 2017 13:30 GMT
#1206
On June 24 2017 22:17 Solar424 wrote:
It's been 9 MONTHS since Zerg won a Premier tournament. It's been more than 2 years since Zerg won a GSL. No race has ever had this long of a drought in the history of the game. If Terran went this long without winning something there would be a bunch of Reddit posts and a few TL articles. At some point there being a bunch of ZvZ in foreign tournaments becomes irrelevant when the race is borderline nonviable at the highest level.

Not balance's fault Zerg's are all either chokers or too consistent to stand in the way of hot streaks other finalists often enjoy
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-24 13:39:41
June 24 2017 13:37 GMT
#1207
On June 24 2017 22:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Did soO choke again or did Gumi just get the better of him? I can't believe it happened again.

Also soO is the only player to make multiple GSL finals without a title right? No other finalist loser has made it back to finals beside mvp, who had his GSL wins right?

EDIT: lol nvm MKP exists


I don't feel that soO played especially above or below his usual. Mech has always been one of his weak points and he was up against an opponent that specializes in it. Coming into this, unless you factored in the possibility of Gumiho choking due to it being his first final (which he didn't) he was totally the favorite based on form, playstyle and past history vs. soO.

==

For the second question, aside from soO and Marineking, ByuL has also made multiple GSL finals (and even consecutive) without claiming the gold ;;
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 24 2017 13:48 GMT
#1208
Fuuuuuuuck

Miss the final because of the national holliday, glad I did I don't think I could have seen SoO lost again.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 24 2017 13:49 GMT
#1209
On June 24 2017 22:17 Solar424 wrote:
It's been 9 MONTHS since Zerg won a Premier tournament. It's been more than 2 years since Zerg won a GSL. No race has ever had this long of a drought in the history of the game. If Terran went this long without winning something there would be a bunch of Reddit posts and a few TL articles. At some point there being a bunch of ZvZ in foreign tournaments becomes irrelevant when the race is borderline nonviable at the highest level.


Making balance claims based solely on winners isn't very productive, because it's such a small sample and it's heavily influenced by who the specific players are. For example, in last three years (in you "more than 2 years since Zerg won"), there were 4 Terrans, 5 Protosses and 5 Zergs in a GSL finals. Yes, the Zergs lost more than won, but is that really so telling?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
June 24 2017 14:00 GMT
#1210
One of the better GSL finals.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
June 24 2017 14:01 GMT
#1211
soo 7th silver ))))))))))))))))))
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 24 2017 14:03 GMT
#1212
On June 24 2017 22:17 Solar424 wrote:
It's been 9 MONTHS since Zerg won a Premier tournament. It's been more than 2 years since Zerg won a GSL. No race has ever had this long of a drought in the history of the game. If Terran went this long without winning something there would be a bunch of Reddit posts and a few TL articles. At some point there being a bunch of ZvZ in foreign tournaments becomes irrelevant when the race is borderline nonviable at the highest level.


7 zergs at the last blizzcon.

So, 7 zerg in the top 16 of the year.

2nd is a thing.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3425 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-24 15:17:50
June 24 2017 15:00 GMT
#1213
On June 24 2017 22:48 Nakajin wrote:
Fuuuuuuuck

Miss the final because of the national holliday, glad I did I don't think I could have seen SoO lost again.


Wait isnt Canada Day July 1st?

Anyways usually finals arent great but this was ok. But i m sad for soO too ...
But as a cj fan i m happy for Gumi... Conflicted feelings
Horang2 fan
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
June 24 2017 15:10 GMT
#1214
Lol soO cant even beat gumiho.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-24 16:36:28
June 24 2017 16:35 GMT
#1215
On June 24 2017 22:17 Solar424 wrote:
It's been 9 MONTHS since Zerg won a Premier tournament. It's been more than 2 years since Zerg won a GSL. No race has ever had this long of a drought in the history of the game. If Terran went this long without winning something there would be a bunch of Reddit posts and a few TL articles. At some point there being a bunch of ZvZ in foreign tournaments becomes irrelevant when the race is borderline nonviable at the highest level.


They get the most appearances in finals though

and if you want zerg to get buffed then the EU terran and protoss need to get good. blizz didn't buff zerg for the whole of 2016 because EU was mostly ZvZ
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 24 2017 17:08 GMT
#1216
Is soO more accomplished than Nestea?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
June 24 2017 18:22 GMT
#1217
Serious question, is there anyone else in esports or sports that's accumulated so many silvers without ever winning a gold?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
June 24 2017 22:33 GMT
#1218
Fuck I missed it, forgot to check TL
Nice to see gumiho finally win a title, too many people underestimated him.
SoO on the other hand... maybe the man is just not good enough :/
WriterMaru
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
June 24 2017 22:54 GMT
#1219
I have no tears left... soO has done this to me so many times now that I've become numb...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10100 Posts
June 25 2017 00:30 GMT
#1220
im so fucking sad man rise stronger soOjwa! overall great finals.
p.s gratz GumiGOD
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
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