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On June 29 2017 20:26 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 Fango wrote:On June 29 2017 19:59 AzAlexZ wrote:
What the fuk happened to Neeb's PvZ lol? He was god in that matchup at Jonkoping You can't compare performances in circuit/korea easily like that. The metas and overall levels of play are too different. I was referring to him winning vs Penguin, losing vs Rogue and losing the first map against Elazer So nothing unexpected. Rogue is a ZvP sniper in korea Elazer is top 5 foreigner, he just never got to show ZvP dominance at Dreamhack. Penguin is not very good
well Penguin is still in it after beating Trap and Kelazhur, so I don't think he's that weak
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On June 29 2017 20:27 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:24 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:22 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Trust going 1 base blink vs Maru lol he has expanded now but yeah that's weird He did this earlier on ladder against TY too when TY was streaming. Different map though. did it win ? Nah. He committed even harder to the 1-base and even did the old HotS DT follow-up. But he got blown up by tanks. to me that feels like a very weak build. I don't know what it would be good against in the current meta, but maybe I'm overlooking something. you can hope that the terran salvages bunkers and then you can go kill him
Ah, Flash... 
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On June 29 2017 20:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:24 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:22 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Trust going 1 base blink vs Maru lol he has expanded now but yeah that's weird He did this earlier on ladder against TY too when TY was streaming. Different map though. did it win ? Nah. He committed even harder to the 1-base and even did the old HotS DT follow-up. But he got blown up by tanks. to me that feels like a very weak build. I don't know what it would be good against in the current meta, but maybe I'm overlooking something.
I mean I imagine on ladder it's fine because there are tons of proxies being done atm.
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On June 29 2017 20:27 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:27 Charoisaur wrote:On June 29 2017 20:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:24 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:22 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Trust going 1 base blink vs Maru lol he has expanded now but yeah that's weird He did this earlier on ladder against TY too when TY was streaming. Different map though. did it win ? Nah. He committed even harder to the 1-base and even did the old HotS DT follow-up. But he got blown up by tanks. to me that feels like a very weak build. I don't know what it would be good against in the current meta, but maybe I'm overlooking something. you can hope that the terran salvages bunkers and then you can go kill him Ah, Flash...
^^ Yeonsu, painful Terran memories
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On June 29 2017 20:28 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:24 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:22 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Trust going 1 base blink vs Maru lol he has expanded now but yeah that's weird He did this earlier on ladder against TY too when TY was streaming. Different map though. did it win ? Nah. He committed even harder to the 1-base and even did the old HotS DT follow-up. But he got blown up by tanks. to me that feels like a very weak build. I don't know what it would be good against in the current meta, but maybe I'm overlooking something. I mean I imagine on ladder it's fine because there are tons of proxies being done atm.
yeah that's a good point that would obviously fare very well vs proxy shenanigans. And it's not like Maru is a stranger to those kinds of all-ins.
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phoenix adept now, let's see how Maru deals with it !
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On June 29 2017 20:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:27 Durnuu wrote:On June 29 2017 20:27 Charoisaur wrote:On June 29 2017 20:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:24 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:22 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Trust going 1 base blink vs Maru lol he has expanded now but yeah that's weird He did this earlier on ladder against TY too when TY was streaming. Different map though. did it win ? Nah. He committed even harder to the 1-base and even did the old HotS DT follow-up. But he got blown up by tanks. to me that feels like a very weak build. I don't know what it would be good against in the current meta, but maybe I'm overlooking something. you can hope that the terran salvages bunkers and then you can go kill him Ah, Flash... ^^ Yeonsu, painful Terran memories
Yeonsu was painful for Zergs too
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On June 29 2017 20:30 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:27 Durnuu wrote:On June 29 2017 20:27 Charoisaur wrote:On June 29 2017 20:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:24 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:22 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Trust going 1 base blink vs Maru lol he has expanded now but yeah that's weird He did this earlier on ladder against TY too when TY was streaming. Different map though. did it win ? Nah. He committed even harder to the 1-base and even did the old HotS DT follow-up. But he got blown up by tanks. to me that feels like a very weak build. I don't know what it would be good against in the current meta, but maybe I'm overlooking something. you can hope that the terran salvages bunkers and then you can go kill him Ah, Flash... ^^ Yeonsu, painful Terran memories Yeonsu was painful for Zergs too
Yeonsu was painful. But the map was pretty 
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On June 29 2017 20:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:26 Fango wrote:On June 29 2017 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 Fango wrote:On June 29 2017 19:59 AzAlexZ wrote:
What the fuk happened to Neeb's PvZ lol? He was god in that matchup at Jonkoping You can't compare performances in circuit/korea easily like that. The metas and overall levels of play are too different. I was referring to him winning vs Penguin, losing vs Rogue and losing the first map against Elazer So nothing unexpected. Rogue is a ZvP sniper in korea Elazer is top 5 foreigner, he just never got to show ZvP dominance at Dreamhack. Penguin is not very good well Penguin is still in it after beating Trap and Kelazhur, so I don't think he's that weak
Trap is very on and off this year due to inconsistent practice (he was practicing to become an overwatch pro), and kelazaur Korean performance is shaky (also is he cross server?).
Honestly if I had to predict Neebs results it would have been 2-0 penguin, 0-2 rogue, 2-1 elazer, and 1-2 jjakji. I don't know why it's surprising
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On June 29 2017 20:32 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:26 Fango wrote:On June 29 2017 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 Fango wrote:On June 29 2017 19:59 AzAlexZ wrote:
What the fuk happened to Neeb's PvZ lol? He was god in that matchup at Jonkoping You can't compare performances in circuit/korea easily like that. The metas and overall levels of play are too different. I was referring to him winning vs Penguin, losing vs Rogue and losing the first map against Elazer So nothing unexpected. Rogue is a ZvP sniper in korea Elazer is top 5 foreigner, he just never got to show ZvP dominance at Dreamhack. Penguin is not very good well Penguin is still in it after beating Trap and Kelazhur, so I don't think he's that weak Trap is very on and off this year due to inconsistent practice (he was practicing to become an overwatch pro), and kelazaur Korean performance is shaky (also is he cross server?). Honestly if I had to predict Neebs results it would have been 2-0 penguin, 0-2 rogue, 2-1 elazer, and 1-2 jjakji. I don't know why it's surprising
I think he can win vs jjakji. But yeah it'll be close, probably 2-1 either way
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On June 29 2017 20:30 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:27 Durnuu wrote:On June 29 2017 20:27 Charoisaur wrote:On June 29 2017 20:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:24 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:22 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Trust going 1 base blink vs Maru lol he has expanded now but yeah that's weird He did this earlier on ladder against TY too when TY was streaming. Different map though. did it win ? Nah. He committed even harder to the 1-base and even did the old HotS DT follow-up. But he got blown up by tanks. to me that feels like a very weak build. I don't know what it would be good against in the current meta, but maybe I'm overlooking something. you can hope that the terran salvages bunkers and then you can go kill him Ah, Flash... ^^ Yeonsu, painful Terran memories Yeonsu was painful for Zergs too
Forcefields, forcefields everywhere
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On June 29 2017 20:26 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 Fango wrote:On June 29 2017 19:59 AzAlexZ wrote:
What the fuk happened to Neeb's PvZ lol? He was god in that matchup at Jonkoping You can't compare performances in circuit/korea easily like that. The metas and overall levels of play are too different. I was referring to him winning vs Penguin, losing vs Rogue and losing the first map against Elazer So nothing unexpected. Rogue is a ZvP sniper in korea Elazer is top 5 foreigner, he just never got to show ZvP dominance at Dreamhack. Penguin is not very good
Not only Rogue is a ZvP sniper. He was also always great in ZvZ. But the weakness was ZvT. But now, what he has shown against ByuN, I can't wait for his GSL group.
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On June 29 2017 20:30 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:27 Durnuu wrote:On June 29 2017 20:27 Charoisaur wrote:On June 29 2017 20:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:24 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:22 Elentos wrote:On June 29 2017 20:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Trust going 1 base blink vs Maru lol he has expanded now but yeah that's weird He did this earlier on ladder against TY too when TY was streaming. Different map though. did it win ? Nah. He committed even harder to the 1-base and even did the old HotS DT follow-up. But he got blown up by tanks. to me that feels like a very weak build. I don't know what it would be good against in the current meta, but maybe I'm overlooking something. you can hope that the terran salvages bunkers and then you can go kill him Ah, Flash... ^^ Yeonsu, painful Terran memories Yeonsu was painful for Zergs too
TY vs Soulkey comes to mind dat 3 base area w/ rocks abuse with low ground tanks holy shit
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On June 29 2017 20:34 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:26 Fango wrote:On June 29 2017 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 Fango wrote:On June 29 2017 19:59 AzAlexZ wrote:
What the fuk happened to Neeb's PvZ lol? He was god in that matchup at Jonkoping You can't compare performances in circuit/korea easily like that. The metas and overall levels of play are too different. I was referring to him winning vs Penguin, losing vs Rogue and losing the first map against Elazer So nothing unexpected. Rogue is a ZvP sniper in korea Elazer is top 5 foreigner, he just never got to show ZvP dominance at Dreamhack. Penguin is not very good Not only Rogue is a ZvP sniper. He was also always great in ZvZ. But the weakness was ZvT. But now, what he has shown against ByuN, I can't wait for his GSL group.
let's not start the hype train too soon. But I agree Rogue hasn't looked as good for ages.
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On June 29 2017 20:33 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2017 20:32 Fango wrote:On June 29 2017 20:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:On June 29 2017 20:26 Fango wrote:On June 29 2017 20:20 AzAlexZ wrote:On June 29 2017 20:19 Fango wrote:On June 29 2017 19:59 AzAlexZ wrote:
What the fuk happened to Neeb's PvZ lol? He was god in that matchup at Jonkoping You can't compare performances in circuit/korea easily like that. The metas and overall levels of play are too different. I was referring to him winning vs Penguin, losing vs Rogue and losing the first map against Elazer So nothing unexpected. Rogue is a ZvP sniper in korea Elazer is top 5 foreigner, he just never got to show ZvP dominance at Dreamhack. Penguin is not very good well Penguin is still in it after beating Trap and Kelazhur, so I don't think he's that weak Trap is very on and off this year due to inconsistent practice (he was practicing to become an overwatch pro), and kelazaur Korean performance is shaky (also is he cross server?). Honestly if I had to predict Neebs results it would have been 2-0 penguin, 0-2 rogue, 2-1 elazer, and 1-2 jjakji. I don't know why it's surprising I think he can win vs jjakji. But yeah it'll be close, probably 2-1 either way
Also jjakji is a nub
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This GuMiho vs Solar game is pretty epic
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On June 29 2017 20:35 Elentos wrote:
This GuMiho vs Solar game is pretty epic
yeah it's excellent, I'm switching between it and Maru-Trust but all I see is very exciting
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wow Trust is surprisingly good
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On June 29 2017 20:35 Elentos wrote:
This GuMiho vs Solar game is pretty epic
Is this one of those "legendary Korean qualifier games" I've been hearing about?
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