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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3136 Posts
June 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1121
I'm not very good at this game (Gold league pro!), but I tend to think that moment when he suicided all his SHs was probably not good.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1122
On June 20 2017 04:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 04:12 Ej_ wrote:
On June 20 2017 04:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
btw why didn't Serral transition into bls instead of ultras ?

It takes too much time and ultras are more than fine vs archon heavy armies. But he kept massing SH instead of faster hive so immortal count was too big.

He actually reset immortal count with that SH suicide before ultras.

But dual robo immos :D

Well yeah but by then he had naked ultras with no crackling bane support and Neeb was on 4 bases running smoothly
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-19 19:15:01
June 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1123
So Serral is qualified for Blizzcon no matter what

nvm it's by points
very illegal and very uncool
xenonn40
Profile Joined October 2011
United States282 Posts
June 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1124
On June 20 2017 04:12 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 04:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
btw why didn't Serral transition into bls instead of ultras ?

It takes too much time and ultras are more than fine vs archon heavy armies. But he kept massing SH instead of faster hive so immortal count was too big.


He did reset the immortal count before the Ultras popped, but ya, neeb still had time to remake them.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1125
On June 20 2017 04:13 vult wrote:
So if Neeb wins does Serral get a seed to Blizzcon since Neeb won Austin?

No, it means an extra player qualifies for Blizzcon by points.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
June 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1126
On June 20 2017 04:13 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 04:13 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On June 20 2017 04:10 Lorning wrote:
On June 20 2017 04:09 Ej_ wrote:
On June 20 2017 04:08 Lorning wrote:
I just dont get this baneling meta vs P

sentries and collossi blow, chargelots are standard

But this is archon, storm and immortals

starcraft tutorial told me these aren't countered by banes

Everything is countered by banes. You just need a right amount.

Oh wow you're right

I forgot Nestea

those thors obliterated on belshir beach ^^
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1127
On June 20 2017 04:13 vult wrote:
So if Neeb wins does Serral get a seed to Blizzcon since Neeb won Austin?

No, I believe it is top 8 in points minus tournament winners
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
June 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1128
On June 20 2017 04:13 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 04:13 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
On June 20 2017 04:10 Lorning wrote:
On June 20 2017 04:09 Ej_ wrote:
On June 20 2017 04:08 Lorning wrote:
I just dont get this baneling meta vs P

sentries and collossi blow, chargelots are standard

But this is archon, storm and immortals

starcraft tutorial told me these aren't countered by banes

Everything is countered by banes. You just need a right amount.

Oh wow you're right

I forgot Nestea


whats up
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I'M NESSSSTEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1129
On June 20 2017 04:13 vult wrote:
So if Neeb wins does Serral get a seed to Blizzcon since Neeb won Austin?


No, if one persons wins multiple blizzcon seeds they simply take someone else out of the wcs ladder

It will still be top 8 going to blizzcon.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ishmael
Profile Joined June 2016
92 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-19 19:22:37
June 19 2017 19:15 GMT
#1130
On June 20 2017 04:08 Elentos wrote:
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On June 20 2017 04:07 Ishmael wrote:
ahh I love a game where they don't play boilerplate OR silly cheese

???



"Boilerplate is a standard language template of any kind, that can be reused without greatly changing the original. The term is used in reference to statements, contracts and computer code."


I haven't watched this tournament before the final, but I'd say my biggest #passion loss is when I watch 5 XvY series in a row that all seem to be essentially the same comps interacting in the same ways. Dark, Life, Taeja are my favorite players because they have a substantively different style of play than the usual, without falling into the predictable unpredictability of someone like Has. I like watching the games to see the personalities and game-visions interact and contrast.
The Nature of Infinity is this: That every thing has its own Vortex
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 19 2017 19:15 GMT
#1131
On June 20 2017 04:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 04:13 vult wrote:
So if Neeb wins does Serral get a seed to Blizzcon since Neeb won Austin?

No, it means an extra player qualifies for Blizzcon by points.


I suppose thats fair.

At this rate Neeb is going to win Valencia too and sweep all three WCS Circuit events. I wish he would try GSL next season just to try.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 19 2017 19:15 GMT
#1132
Also guys

Only other person to win back to back WCS seasons? Polt

Who was Polt? Captain America

What country is Neeb from? Murica

We're watching a Captain America reboot.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 19 2017 19:15 GMT
#1133
On June 20 2017 04:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 04:13 vult wrote:
So if Neeb wins does Serral get a seed to Blizzcon since Neeb won Austin?

No, it means an extra player qualifies for Blizzcon by points.


Though in truth the seeds hardly matter since anyone with a seed would have enough points anyways.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 19 2017 19:16 GMT
#1134
What i really do not understand is the fact that all these ZvPs are played on essentially even eco.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 19 2017 19:16 GMT
#1135
They should just give Neeb two seeds if he wins and let him play both positions in the bracket, merging them if he meets himself
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-19 19:16:36
June 19 2017 19:16 GMT
#1136
On June 20 2017 04:16 lolfail9001 wrote:
What i really do not understand is the fact that all these ZvPs are played on essentially even eco.

chronoboost good spell. But Zerg can actually kill Protoss units in LotV so it's fine.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2722 Posts
June 19 2017 19:16 GMT
#1137
On June 20 2017 04:15 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 04:14 Elentos wrote:
On June 20 2017 04:13 vult wrote:
So if Neeb wins does Serral get a seed to Blizzcon since Neeb won Austin?

No, it means an extra player qualifies for Blizzcon by points.


I suppose thats fair.

At this rate Neeb is going to win Valencia too and sweep all three WCS Circuit events. I wish he would try GSL next season just to try.

He is playing in the GSL qualifier
very illegal and very uncool
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 19 2017 19:16 GMT
#1138
On June 20 2017 04:15 Ishmael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 04:08 Elentos wrote:
On June 20 2017 04:07 Ishmael wrote:
ahh I love a game where they don't play boilerplate OR silly cheese

???

predictable unpredictability of someone like Has.

That's one of the best Has descriptions I've ever seen
Neosteel Enthusiast
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 19 2017 19:16 GMT
#1139
On June 20 2017 04:16 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 04:16 lolfail9001 wrote:
What i really do not understand is the fact that all these ZvPs are played on essentially even eco.

chronoboost good spell

I doubt the fact 5:30 3rd nexus and 8 minute 4th is standard has anything to do with chronoboost.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 19 2017 19:16 GMT
#1140
On June 20 2017 04:15 Elentos wrote:
Also guys

Only other person to win back to back WCS seasons? Polt

Who was Polt? Captain America

What country is Neeb from? Murica

We're watching a Captain America reboot.

Who is Bucky?
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