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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24212 Posts
June 19 2017 18:31 GMT
#961
On June 20 2017 03:27 Ej_ wrote:
The 2 least menacing people on Earth march in front of the crowd of approximately 23 people

sounds epic
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 19 2017 18:31 GMT
#962
On June 20 2017 03:29 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 03:25 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote:
If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time


He needs success in korea to be crowned that and it actually have some weight to it. Imagine if he got into gsl playoffs.

He won Kespa Cup...


Substantial success in Korea then, I should clarify. Beating two poorly performing zergs and a couple PvPs against koreans that were new to that style isn't mind blowing. Performing well in an actual starleague against top players is something no foreigner has done (for a very very long time)


Jinro ro4 in the GSL seems like a long time ago.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 19 2017 18:32 GMT
#963
On June 20 2017 03:29 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 03:27 Ej_ wrote:
The 2 least menacing people on Earth march in front of the crowd of approximately 23 people

But it's 23 very passionate people.

And well dressed.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 19 2017 18:33 GMT
#964
On June 20 2017 03:30 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 03:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote:
If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time

If we're going by how Stuchiu ranked them I doubt Neeb would make top 5 because he hasn't beaten enough Koreans which was a large part of how he ranked players

Kespa Cup is only one tournament, consistency matters too

he doesn't have the opportunity to face koreans often so that isn't entirely fair.
And he has the single biggest achievement of all foreigners.

It's not entirely fair but that's how he'd rank it. Also iirc Stuchiu has pretty low opinions about the kill level of Korea in the era of Neeb's Kespa Cup compared to 2013-14
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
June 19 2017 18:33 GMT
#965
On June 20 2017 03:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 03:29 argonautdice wrote:
I still don't understand why this is on a Monday during work time. This is literally the final between the two best foreigners and only 17k viewers.

Because outside of throwing more money at the scene, Blizzard still doesn't seem to understand how to get viewers

More handsome players or more handsome casters?
Or naked girls fighting in mud before each game?
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15981 Posts
June 19 2017 18:33 GMT
#966
On June 20 2017 03:29 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 03:25 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote:
If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time


He needs success in korea to be crowned that and it actually have some weight to it. Imagine if he got into gsl playoffs.

He won Kespa Cup...


Substantial success in Korea then, I should clarify. Beating two poorly performing zergs and a couple PvPs against koreans that were new to that style isn't mind blowing. Performing well in an actual starleague against top players is something no foreigner has done (for a very very long time)

I don't get how being new to his playstyle cheapens his achievement.
Is Life's first GSL win worth less because his opponents were new to his playstyle?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55554 Posts
June 19 2017 18:33 GMT
#967
On June 20 2017 03:31 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 03:29 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:25 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote:
If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time


He needs success in korea to be crowned that and it actually have some weight to it. Imagine if he got into gsl playoffs.

He won Kespa Cup...


Substantial success in Korea then, I should clarify. Beating two poorly performing zergs and a couple PvPs against koreans that were new to that style isn't mind blowing. Performing well in an actual starleague against top players is something no foreigner has done (for a very very long time)


Jinro ro4 in the GSL seems like a long time ago.

Well, if you consider the age our 2 finalists were back when Jinro did that...
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
June 19 2017 18:34 GMT
#968
On June 20 2017 03:33 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 03:29 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:25 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote:
If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time


He needs success in korea to be crowned that and it actually have some weight to it. Imagine if he got into gsl playoffs.

He won Kespa Cup...


Substantial success in Korea then, I should clarify. Beating two poorly performing zergs and a couple PvPs against koreans that were new to that style isn't mind blowing. Performing well in an actual starleague against top players is something no foreigner has done (for a very very long time)

I don't get how being new to his playstyle cheapens his achievement.
Is Life's first GSL win worth less because his opponents were new to his playstyle?

Nah, Life's GSL is worth nothing for other reasons
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15981 Posts
June 19 2017 18:34 GMT
#969
On June 20 2017 03:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 03:30 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote:
If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time

If we're going by how Stuchiu ranked them I doubt Neeb would make top 5 because he hasn't beaten enough Koreans which was a large part of how he ranked players

Kespa Cup is only one tournament, consistency matters too

he doesn't have the opportunity to face koreans often so that isn't entirely fair.
And he has the single biggest achievement of all foreigners.

It's not entirely fair but that's how he'd rank it. Also iirc Stuchiu has pretty low opinions about the kill level of Korea in the era of Neeb's Kespa Cup compared to 2013-14

the #1 foreigner has his achievements in 2011/12 though
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55554 Posts
June 19 2017 18:36 GMT
#970
On June 20 2017 03:34 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 03:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:30 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote:
If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time

If we're going by how Stuchiu ranked them I doubt Neeb would make top 5 because he hasn't beaten enough Koreans which was a large part of how he ranked players

Kespa Cup is only one tournament, consistency matters too

he doesn't have the opportunity to face koreans often so that isn't entirely fair.
And he has the single biggest achievement of all foreigners.

It's not entirely fair but that's how he'd rank it. Also iirc Stuchiu has pretty low opinions about the kill level of Korea in the era of Neeb's Kespa Cup compared to 2013-14

the #1 foreigner has his achievements in 2011/12 though

WESG will have you know that he is still currently the best African player.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15981 Posts
June 19 2017 18:36 GMT
#971
On June 20 2017 03:34 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 03:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:30 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote:
If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time

If we're going by how Stuchiu ranked them I doubt Neeb would make top 5 because he hasn't beaten enough Koreans which was a large part of how he ranked players

Kespa Cup is only one tournament, consistency matters too

he doesn't have the opportunity to face koreans often so that isn't entirely fair.
And he has the single biggest achievement of all foreigners.

It's not entirely fair but that's how he'd rank it. Also iirc Stuchiu has pretty low opinions about the kill level of Korea in the era of Neeb's Kespa Cup compared to 2013-14

the #1 foreigner has his achievements in 2011/12 though

Ah I forgot, that was when the skill-level was at its highest because Mvp played back then
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
June 19 2017 18:39 GMT
#972
To be fair SC2 in 2011/2012 was a completely different game
perhaps we could have multiple best foreigner, maybe one for WoL, HotS, LotV ?

anyway, gogo Neeb!!
My life for Aiur !
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 19 2017 18:39 GMT
#973
Neeb still makes too many probes vs Zerg.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 18:40 GMT
#974
On June 20 2017 03:33 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 03:29 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:25 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote:
If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time


He needs success in korea to be crowned that and it actually have some weight to it. Imagine if he got into gsl playoffs.

He won Kespa Cup...


Substantial success in Korea then, I should clarify. Beating two poorly performing zergs and a couple PvPs against koreans that were new to that style isn't mind blowing. Performing well in an actual starleague against top players is something no foreigner has done (for a very very long time)

I don't get how being new to his playstyle cheapens his achievement.
Is Life's first GSL win worth less because his opponents were new to his playstyle?


Its not neebs fault, but its true. Stats and trap tried to copy the disruptor blink style, and were hopeless using it because the korean pvp meta was different. And a gsl is a different level to kespa cup. Stats and trap were the only good players neeb even went up against. 2 players isn't enough for me to hype him up.

Now if he went on a rampage and beat a bunch of top 8 koreans then i would be 100% on the hype train but its yet to happen. We must wait until gsl s3.

I'm not trying to hate on neeb but the kespa cup win is arguably the weaker of his championships. And I'm willing to crown him GOAT foreigner if he does sick in a starleague or maybe blizzcon
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24583 Posts
June 19 2017 18:41 GMT
#975
Those hero archons!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15981 Posts
June 19 2017 18:41 GMT
#976
Cute idea but didn't work at all
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10082 Posts
June 19 2017 18:41 GMT
#977
the storms x.x
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 19 2017 18:41 GMT
#978
Hitting a timing after storm finishes
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24212 Posts
June 19 2017 18:41 GMT
#979
too easy for Neeb damn
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
June 19 2017 18:41 GMT
#980
Neeb pretty good O.O
My life for Aiur !
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