On June 20 2017 03:27 Ej_ wrote:
The 2 least menacing people on Earth march in front of the crowd of approximately 23 people
The 2 least menacing people on Earth march in front of the crowd of approximately 23 people
sounds epic
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France24212 Posts
On June 20 2017 03:27 Ej_ wrote: The 2 least menacing people on Earth march in front of the crowd of approximately 23 people sounds epic | ||
Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On June 20 2017 03:29 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 03:25 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 03:24 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote: If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time He needs success in korea to be crowned that and it actually have some weight to it. Imagine if he got into gsl playoffs. He won Kespa Cup... Substantial success in Korea then, I should clarify. Beating two poorly performing zergs and a couple PvPs against koreans that were new to that style isn't mind blowing. Performing well in an actual starleague against top players is something no foreigner has done (for a very very long time) Jinro ro4 in the GSL seems like a long time ago. | ||
Boggyb
2855 Posts
On June 20 2017 03:29 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 03:27 Ej_ wrote: The 2 least menacing people on Earth march in front of the crowd of approximately 23 people But it's 23 very passionate people. And well dressed. | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On June 20 2017 03:30 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 03:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote: If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time If we're going by how Stuchiu ranked them I doubt Neeb would make top 5 because he hasn't beaten enough Koreans which was a large part of how he ranked players Kespa Cup is only one tournament, consistency matters too he doesn't have the opportunity to face koreans often so that isn't entirely fair. And he has the single biggest achievement of all foreigners. It's not entirely fair but that's how he'd rank it. Also iirc Stuchiu has pretty low opinions about the kill level of Korea in the era of Neeb's Kespa Cup compared to 2013-14 | ||
Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On June 20 2017 03:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 03:29 argonautdice wrote: I still don't understand why this is on a Monday during work time. This is literally the final between the two best foreigners and only 17k viewers. Because outside of throwing more money at the scene, Blizzard still doesn't seem to understand how to get viewers More handsome players or more handsome casters? Or naked girls fighting in mud before each game? | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15981 Posts
On June 20 2017 03:29 Fango wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 03:25 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 03:24 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote: If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time He needs success in korea to be crowned that and it actually have some weight to it. Imagine if he got into gsl playoffs. He won Kespa Cup... Substantial success in Korea then, I should clarify. Beating two poorly performing zergs and a couple PvPs against koreans that were new to that style isn't mind blowing. Performing well in an actual starleague against top players is something no foreigner has done (for a very very long time) I don't get how being new to his playstyle cheapens his achievement. Is Life's first GSL win worth less because his opponents were new to his playstyle? | ||
Elentos
55554 Posts
On June 20 2017 03:31 Zaros wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 03:29 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 03:25 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 03:24 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote: If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time He needs success in korea to be crowned that and it actually have some weight to it. Imagine if he got into gsl playoffs. He won Kespa Cup... Substantial success in Korea then, I should clarify. Beating two poorly performing zergs and a couple PvPs against koreans that were new to that style isn't mind blowing. Performing well in an actual starleague against top players is something no foreigner has done (for a very very long time) Jinro ro4 in the GSL seems like a long time ago. Well, if you consider the age our 2 finalists were back when Jinro did that... | ||
Durnuu
13320 Posts
On June 20 2017 03:33 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 03:29 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 03:25 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 03:24 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote: If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time He needs success in korea to be crowned that and it actually have some weight to it. Imagine if he got into gsl playoffs. He won Kespa Cup... Substantial success in Korea then, I should clarify. Beating two poorly performing zergs and a couple PvPs against koreans that were new to that style isn't mind blowing. Performing well in an actual starleague against top players is something no foreigner has done (for a very very long time) I don't get how being new to his playstyle cheapens his achievement. Is Life's first GSL win worth less because his opponents were new to his playstyle? Nah, Life's GSL is worth nothing for other reasons ![]() | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15981 Posts
On June 20 2017 03:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 03:30 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 03:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote: If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time If we're going by how Stuchiu ranked them I doubt Neeb would make top 5 because he hasn't beaten enough Koreans which was a large part of how he ranked players Kespa Cup is only one tournament, consistency matters too he doesn't have the opportunity to face koreans often so that isn't entirely fair. And he has the single biggest achievement of all foreigners. It's not entirely fair but that's how he'd rank it. Also iirc Stuchiu has pretty low opinions about the kill level of Korea in the era of Neeb's Kespa Cup compared to 2013-14 the #1 foreigner has his achievements in 2011/12 though | ||
Elentos
55554 Posts
On June 20 2017 03:34 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 03:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On June 20 2017 03:30 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 03:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote: If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time If we're going by how Stuchiu ranked them I doubt Neeb would make top 5 because he hasn't beaten enough Koreans which was a large part of how he ranked players Kespa Cup is only one tournament, consistency matters too he doesn't have the opportunity to face koreans often so that isn't entirely fair. And he has the single biggest achievement of all foreigners. It's not entirely fair but that's how he'd rank it. Also iirc Stuchiu has pretty low opinions about the kill level of Korea in the era of Neeb's Kespa Cup compared to 2013-14 the #1 foreigner has his achievements in 2011/12 though WESG will have you know that he is still currently the best African player. | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15981 Posts
On June 20 2017 03:34 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 03:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On June 20 2017 03:30 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 03:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote: If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time If we're going by how Stuchiu ranked them I doubt Neeb would make top 5 because he hasn't beaten enough Koreans which was a large part of how he ranked players Kespa Cup is only one tournament, consistency matters too he doesn't have the opportunity to face koreans often so that isn't entirely fair. And he has the single biggest achievement of all foreigners. It's not entirely fair but that's how he'd rank it. Also iirc Stuchiu has pretty low opinions about the kill level of Korea in the era of Neeb's Kespa Cup compared to 2013-14 the #1 foreigner has his achievements in 2011/12 though Ah I forgot, that was when the skill-level was at its highest because Mvp played back then ![]() | ||
VHbb
689 Posts
![]() perhaps we could have multiple best foreigner, maybe one for WoL, HotS, LotV ? anyway, gogo Neeb!! | ||
Ej_
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On June 20 2017 03:33 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2017 03:29 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 03:25 Charoisaur wrote: On June 20 2017 03:24 Fango wrote: On June 20 2017 03:22 Charoisaur wrote: If Neeb wins he might be in discussion for best foreigner of all time He needs success in korea to be crowned that and it actually have some weight to it. Imagine if he got into gsl playoffs. He won Kespa Cup... Substantial success in Korea then, I should clarify. Beating two poorly performing zergs and a couple PvPs against koreans that were new to that style isn't mind blowing. Performing well in an actual starleague against top players is something no foreigner has done (for a very very long time) I don't get how being new to his playstyle cheapens his achievement. Is Life's first GSL win worth less because his opponents were new to his playstyle? Its not neebs fault, but its true. Stats and trap tried to copy the disruptor blink style, and were hopeless using it because the korean pvp meta was different. And a gsl is a different level to kespa cup. Stats and trap were the only good players neeb even went up against. 2 players isn't enough for me to hype him up. Now if he went on a rampage and beat a bunch of top 8 koreans then i would be 100% on the hype train but its yet to happen. We must wait until gsl s3. I'm not trying to hate on neeb but the kespa cup win is arguably the weaker of his championships. And I'm willing to crown him GOAT foreigner if he does sick in a starleague or maybe blizzcon | ||
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