[GSL Code S] Season 2 2017 Semi Finals - Day 1 - Page 18

On June 15 2017 04:00 TerranOwnsAll wrote:
Do you guys think Gumiho has a better chance against SoO or Classic?

On June 15 2017 04:10 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:

I feel like Classic would be easier, but I don't know if the stats back me up on that.

soO just can't lose 6 in a row. It just can't happen

On June 15 2017 04:16 Elentos wrote:

GuMiho can actually take games/matches against herO and every other top Protoss for that matter, I think the jury is still out on that. His style might not be as pretty and refined as some of the others but it's really strong. It's actually his best match-up.

And soO just kinda struggles against GuMiho in general usually, even though his bio TvZ is weak-ish.

On June 14 2017 22:05 ParksonVN wrote:
And what a bad day for SC2 fan tbh, a TvT sniper being in a final guarantees a one-sided series for sure, there are huge gap in mechanic skill between Gumiho and either Classic or Soo, in a Bo7 non-mirror match up, there is 99% chance Soo or Classic will stomp the shit out of Gumiho. I feel sorry for Maru, Inno and TY.

On June 15 2017 04:35 pvsnp wrote:

Gumiho can take games, yes, but not matches. In 2017 offline matches, the only series he's won against a top Protoss was Stats in the Super Tournament. And that happened right as Stats was slumping after GSL so I'm not sure how much that counts. Other than that one win, he's lost to herO three times and Stats once.

Eh, if soO beats Classic he will have plenty of prep time and Inno as a practice partner.

On June 15 2017 04:00 TerranOwnsAll wrote:
Do you guys think Gumiho has a better chance against SoO or Classic?

On June 15 2017 06:26 usopsama wrote:
Fucking TY and Maru, how can you lose to that scrub?

On June 15 2017 05:54 lolfail9001 wrote:

Talking about offline matches when these barely happen is kind of funny way of cherry picking.

On June 15 2017 08:18 pvsnp wrote:


Perhaps you missed this event, I think it was called "GSL." I hear there are a lot of offline matches going on there. In fact, I hear this guy called 'Gumiho' is going to be playing an offline finals there, amazing right?!

And there was SSL, and IEM, and the Super Tournament. Guniho has played 41 offline TvP games in premier tournaments alone since the start of the year.

But of course it's totally picking cherries to use offline matches to predict an offline final, I mean who the hell would think a representative sample is actually a good idea?

On June 15 2017 10:07 lolfail9001 wrote:

41 offline TvP games in 6 months? 10 hours worth of games over 6 months is such a representative sample, in a game where players regularly peak in form for a week or two (of calendar time). In every match-up, because that's how peaks of form work, just ask Dear.

No, your sample is indeed a classic case of cherrypicking, you went digging few months back just to try and make a point about his match-ups but forgot in the process that knowledge from 6 months back is never relevant in SC2 for judging present form.

On June 15 2017 10:16 Poopi wrote:

If you can take games you can take matches because to win matches you just need to win enough games :o.
To be honest every player left can win this GSL, it's gonna come down to who comes more prepared.
I wonder who will practice with Gumiho.

On June 15 2017 12:17 pvsnp wrote:


I used the games since the new year because the sample whose size you are already bitching about would get even smaller if I shrank the date range. So either we have a non-representative sample because of date, or a non-representative sample because of size. Or a non-representative sample because of online/offline type. You seem to have forgotten that Starcraft II players simply don't play as many games as your obtuse definition of sufficiently large sample requires. You've insisted on using a sweeping definition of "cherry-picking" such that there's no good answer, the games are useless data in all cases, and ergo it is pointless to mention any of this at all. Worthless definition, worthless discussion.

Congratulations on wasting my time.