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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
March 20 2017 11:46 GMT
#181
not even using ravagers
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37049 Posts
March 20 2017 11:46 GMT
#182
Poll: Recommend Dark vs Patience Game 1?

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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
March 20 2017 11:46 GMT
#183
On March 20 2017 20:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 20:39 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:36 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:32 Inflicted wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:29 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:25 pvsnp wrote:
I mean aLive's mechanics are pretty good but he has made like all the textbook tactical mistakes outlined in the great big book of How to TvZ.

INnoVation is crying right now watching this.

I don't think any terran has a clue on how to win TvZ on cross frost tho.
Who are the casters btw?


TaeJa did

Not on this version of LotV no.

pretty sure he'd do better than aLive just did.

Feel free to think it but it won't make it true.
TaeJa did pretty bad in LotV, why would he do better than current top T especially against ByuL who uses bling buff and maps that well...

I mean he beat soO on frost when 8 armor ultras were a thing.

Wasn't that precisely when soO was really bad? :D
Because if you aren't aware he just recently became good again ^^
WriterMaru
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 20 2017 11:47 GMT
#184
On March 20 2017 20:46 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 20:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:39 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:36 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:32 Inflicted wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:29 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:25 pvsnp wrote:
I mean aLive's mechanics are pretty good but he has made like all the textbook tactical mistakes outlined in the great big book of How to TvZ.

INnoVation is crying right now watching this.

I don't think any terran has a clue on how to win TvZ on cross frost tho.
Who are the casters btw?


TaeJa did

Not on this version of LotV no.

pretty sure he'd do better than aLive just did.

Feel free to think it but it won't make it true.
TaeJa did pretty bad in LotV, why would he do better than current top T especially against ByuL who uses bling buff and maps that well...

I mean he beat soO on frost when 8 armor ultras were a thing.

Wasn't that precisely when soO was really bad? :D
Because if you aren't aware he just recently became good again ^^


and Taeja was semi-retired
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
March 20 2017 11:48 GMT
#185
On March 20 2017 20:47 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 20:46 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:39 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:36 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:32 Inflicted wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:29 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:25 pvsnp wrote:
I mean aLive's mechanics are pretty good but he has made like all the textbook tactical mistakes outlined in the great big book of How to TvZ.

INnoVation is crying right now watching this.

I don't think any terran has a clue on how to win TvZ on cross frost tho.
Who are the casters btw?


TaeJa did

Not on this version of LotV no.

pretty sure he'd do better than aLive just did.

Feel free to think it but it won't make it true.
TaeJa did pretty bad in LotV, why would he do better than current top T especially against ByuL who uses bling buff and maps that well...

I mean he beat soO on frost when 8 armor ultras were a thing.

Wasn't that precisely when soO was really bad? :D
Because if you aren't aware he just recently became good again ^^


and Taeja was semi-retired

He wasn't even practicing anymore and the only reason he was still playing is because people didn't manage to eliminate him from GSL.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
March 20 2017 11:51 GMT
#186
On March 20 2017 20:46 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 20:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:39 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:36 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:32 Inflicted wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:29 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:25 pvsnp wrote:
I mean aLive's mechanics are pretty good but he has made like all the textbook tactical mistakes outlined in the great big book of How to TvZ.

INnoVation is crying right now watching this.

I don't think any terran has a clue on how to win TvZ on cross frost tho.
Who are the casters btw?


TaeJa did

Not on this version of LotV no.

pretty sure he'd do better than aLive just did.

Feel free to think it but it won't make it true.
TaeJa did pretty bad in LotV, why would he do better than current top T especially against ByuL who uses bling buff and maps that well...

I mean he beat soO on frost when 8 armor ultras were a thing.

Wasn't that precisely when soO was really bad? :D
Because if you aren't aware he just recently became good again ^^

Doesn't matter how good you are or aren't supposed to be, with 8 armor ultras on Frost cross you're not supposed to get completely rekt in the late game.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
March 20 2017 11:53 GMT
#187
On March 20 2017 20:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 20:46 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:39 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:36 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:32 Inflicted wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:29 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:25 pvsnp wrote:
I mean aLive's mechanics are pretty good but he has made like all the textbook tactical mistakes outlined in the great big book of How to TvZ.

INnoVation is crying right now watching this.

I don't think any terran has a clue on how to win TvZ on cross frost tho.
Who are the casters btw?


TaeJa did

Not on this version of LotV no.

pretty sure he'd do better than aLive just did.

Feel free to think it but it won't make it true.
TaeJa did pretty bad in LotV, why would he do better than current top T especially against ByuL who uses bling buff and maps that well...

I mean he beat soO on frost when 8 armor ultras were a thing.

Wasn't that precisely when soO was really bad? :D
Because if you aren't aware he just recently became good again ^^

Doesn't matter how good you are or aren't supposed to be, with 8 armor ultras on Frost cross you're not supposed to get completely rekt in the late game.

It matters a lot actually because aLive can beat bad zergs on frost as well.
We are talking about same lvl opponents and TaeJa wouldn't stand a chance against current ByuL on this map on this patch.
I don't know why people always way overrate TaeJa, maybe because he was on TL?
WriterMaru
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 20 2017 11:54 GMT
#188
On March 20 2017 20:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 20:46 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:39 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:36 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:32 Inflicted wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:29 Poopi wrote:
On March 20 2017 20:25 pvsnp wrote:
I mean aLive's mechanics are pretty good but he has made like all the textbook tactical mistakes outlined in the great big book of How to TvZ.

INnoVation is crying right now watching this.

I don't think any terran has a clue on how to win TvZ on cross frost tho.
Who are the casters btw?


TaeJa did

Not on this version of LotV no.

pretty sure he'd do better than aLive just did.

Feel free to think it but it won't make it true.
TaeJa did pretty bad in LotV, why would he do better than current top T especially against ByuL who uses bling buff and maps that well...

I mean he beat soO on frost when 8 armor ultras were a thing.

Wasn't that precisely when soO was really bad? :D
Because if you aren't aware he just recently became good again ^^

Doesn't matter how good you are or aren't supposed to be, with 8 armor ultras on Frost cross you're not supposed to get completely rekt in the late game.


Depends on how far are you willing to go with "doesn't matter how good you are". I am pretty sure that a pro would destroy me in that situation even if he was allowed to just build marines and medivacs and nothing else.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 20 2017 11:54 GMT
#189
This isn't the GSL. Dark is good here
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 20 2017 11:55 GMT
#190
So it's Patience gonna be the punching bag of the league?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 20 2017 11:55 GMT
#191
I don't know why people always way overrate TaeJa, maybe because he was on TL?

In his prime he was a beast of a Terran, and he had a uniquely fluid playstyle.
But I tend to agree that he's a bit overrated. Even in HotS, Maru and Inno were both more skilled imo.
Denominator of the Universe
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
March 20 2017 11:56 GMT
#192
On March 20 2017 20:55 opisska wrote:
So it's Patience gonna be the punching bag of the league?

He's gonna look like it the first few weeks and then make a comeback to get top 4 in the end just to spite everyone.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 20 2017 11:56 GMT
#193
On March 20 2017 20:55 opisska wrote:
So it's Patience gonna be the punching bag of the league?

Well it's unlikely that he will be in the top 4. But the same could be said about sOs, alive and solar
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 20 2017 11:57 GMT
#194
On March 20 2017 20:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 20:55 opisska wrote:
So it's Patience gonna be the punching bag of the league?

He's gonna look like it the first few weeks and then make a comeback to get top 4 in the end just to spite everyone.


That would really show his patience
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-20 11:57:26
March 20 2017 11:57 GMT
#195
That 2-ling value....
Can anything kill two lings before dying and be cost-efficient?

Well, one ling I guess.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 20 2017 11:59 GMT
#196
On March 20 2017 20:57 pvsnp wrote:
That 2-ling value....
Can anything kill two lings before dying and be cost-efficient?

Well, one ling I guess.


an interceptor
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37049 Posts
March 20 2017 12:00 GMT
#197
Poll: Recommend Dark vs Patience Game 2?

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Poll: Recommend Dark vs Patience Game 3?

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Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Patience Game 3?

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ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 20 2017 12:00 GMT
#198
the finish was beautiful, but I almost thought those lurkers might manage to lose him the game

what a bad unit
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
March 20 2017 12:01 GMT
#199
let's see if Zest will max out on phoenix adept again
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-20 12:02:32
March 20 2017 12:02 GMT
#200
let's see if Zest will max out on phoenix adept again

Not a good idea, widow mine nerf notwithstanding. You'd think he knows that by now, right?
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