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bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
March 02 2017 07:40 GMT
#61
Do you really think Serral and Nerchio are less favored then True in group C?
With Zest coming jetlagged it will be hard for him playing 10-15 maps in a row.
A foreigner will make it out of group C.
Showtime or Uthermal can make it out of group D, and Neev has a slight chance.
I think there will be at least 2 foreignerd in the RO12.
Theb we'll see who they play with.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 07:55:11
March 02 2017 07:44 GMT
#62
On March 02 2017 15:59 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2017 15:55 Ej_ wrote:
Snute could definitely beat Ryung if the latter goes mech.


why would he throw like that and go mech?



Frankly, I think that's more to Ryung's strength. I don't think I've ever found his TvZ impressive unless it's a more of a slower-paced methodical kind of game which would explain why he was also kind of good in the MU towards the end of WoL (See his legendary game against DRG on Whirlwind). I just don't think he has the chops to be a relentless aggressor with bio like Maru, Bogus, or ByuN. Hell, he's not even an aLive in that regard.

Either way, I think Snute holds the advantage in that encounter. Whether he goes against sub-par bio or mech.

On March 02 2017 16:40 bulya wrote:
Do you really think Serral and Nerchio are less favored then True in group C?
With Zest coming jetlagged it will be hard for him playing 10-15 maps in a row.
A foreigner will make it out of group C.
Showtime or Uthermal can make it out of group D, and Neev has a slight chance.
I think there will be at least 2 foreignerd in the RO12.
Theb we'll see who they play with.


I have Nerchio coming out in first for group C. I gave up on most foreigners a long time ago, but I think Artur is legit. I have a feeling Zest is going to bomb this IEM as well..

I think Gumiho still cleans up any remaining foreigners in group D after Bogus and Dark burn down the house.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 09:06:01
March 02 2017 09:04 GMT
#63
On March 02 2017 16:40 bulya wrote:
Do you really think Serral and Nerchio are less favored then True in group C?
With Zest coming jetlagged it will be hard for him playing 10-15 maps in a row.
A foreigner will make it out of group C.
Showtime or Uthermal can make it out of group D, and Neev has a slight chance.
I think there will be at least 2 foreignerd in the RO12.
Theb we'll see who they play with.

Nerchio always keeps going on about how much he hates playing against Protoss and I haven't really seen much from Serral in that regard lately. TRUE qualified beating Dear, Stats and Zest. So at least he's got that going for him.

I think ShoWTimE makes it out of group D, he seems pretty confident against Terran these days and honestly GuMiho is no INnoVation or TY.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16086 Posts
March 02 2017 09:06 GMT
#64
Stats said Zest is practicing hard so he will probably crush his group. Jetlag or not.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 09:12:13
March 02 2017 09:12 GMT
#65
On March 02 2017 18:06 Charoisaur wrote:
Stats said Zest is practicing hard so he will probably crush his group. Jetlag or not.

Maybe. But don't be surprised if his reaction times are slow and it looks like he has delay as if he was playing from Korea on EU server.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 09:20:19
March 02 2017 09:17 GMT
#66
On March 02 2017 18:12 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2017 18:06 Charoisaur wrote:
Stats said Zest is practicing hard so he will probably crush his group. Jetlag or not.

Maybe. But don't be surprised if his reaction times are slow and it looks like he has delay as if he was playing from Korea on EU server.


Zest does really well with prep and planned series from experience.

We'll see but I wouldn't be surprised if he did well. herO is solid but his general level has just been too generically good as opposed to outstanding/creative.

I'm more interested to see what Byun/Inno/Dark bring out. TY is good too but I'm not sure hes quite on the level of earlier in the lotv year. That or more likely the other players have caught up to him.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 02 2017 09:19 GMT
#67
On March 02 2017 18:06 Charoisaur wrote:
Stats said Zest is practicing hard so he will probably crush his group. Jetlag or not.


He should still make it out, but anyone who's stayed up all night playing games knows performance always drops when you get a bit sleepy.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 02 2017 09:20 GMT
#68
If any of those players has Jetlag, it's their own fault tbh. Just arrive 2 days earlier, there were no games going on in Korea this week.

If Zest is still on Nation Wars level he will not advance, but I think he will have improved a lot since then.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
March 02 2017 09:23 GMT
#69
Schedule and full results here: https://play.eslgaming.com/starcraft/global/sc2/major/masters/season-11-world-championship-ro24-group-stage/results/
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 09:28:54
March 02 2017 09:26 GMT
#70
When are they going to announce the order of the matches today?

Edit:
Just asked and find it above my post :D
Semikolon
Profile Joined February 2016
Norway46 Posts
March 02 2017 09:27 GMT
#71
On March 02 2017 18:20 Musicus wrote:
If any of those players has Jetlag, it's their own fault tbh. Just arrive 2 days earlier, there were no games going on in Korea this week.

If Zest is still on Nation Wars level he will not advance, but I think he will have improved a lot since then.


I agree. It's just too easy to blame potential KR losses on jet lag and the like.

I also think that foreigners do have a shot here. Nerchio is in super form, Showtime definitely has the potential to advance, and so does uThermal. Probably not both of them, though

Snute will probably have a tough time against the KR terrans, but I think he can beat both herO and Solar.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 09:28:46
March 02 2017 09:28 GMT
#72
On March 02 2017 18:20 Musicus wrote:
If any of those players has Jetlag, it's their own fault tbh. Just arrive 2 days earlier, there were no games going on in Korea this week.

If Zest is still on Nation Wars level he will not advance, but I think he will have improved a lot since then.

Well true. Just for Zest we know in advance he's gonna be jetlagged.
On March 02 2017 18:26 bulya wrote:
When are they going to announce the order of the matches today?

Curiously it's in the post right above yours.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
March 02 2017 09:28 GMT
#73
On March 02 2017 18:27 Semikolon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2017 18:20 Musicus wrote:
If any of those players has Jetlag, it's their own fault tbh. Just arrive 2 days earlier, there were no games going on in Korea this week.

If Zest is still on Nation Wars level he will not advance, but I think he will have improved a lot since then.


I agree. It's just too easy to blame potential KR losses on jet lag and the like.

I also think that foreigners do have a shot here. Nerchio is in super form, Showtime definitely has the potential to advance, and so does uThermal. Probably not both of them, though

Snute will probably have a tough time against the KR terrans, but I think he can beat both herO and Solar.


That's pretty optimistic for snute. herO and solar are much better players in general. I guess it remains to be seen what his level is really at
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
March 02 2017 09:29 GMT
#74
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 09:33:07
March 02 2017 09:30 GMT
#75
On March 02 2017 18:27 Semikolon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2017 18:20 Musicus wrote:
If any of those players has Jetlag, it's their own fault tbh. Just arrive 2 days earlier, there were no games going on in Korea this week.

If Zest is still on Nation Wars level he will not advance, but I think he will have improved a lot since then.


I agree. It's just too easy to blame potential KR losses on jet lag and the like.

I also think that foreigners do have a shot here. Nerchio is in super form, Showtime definitely has the potential to advance, and so does uThermal. Probably not both of them, though

Snute will probably have a tough time against the KR terrans, but I think he can beat both herO and Solar.

I think he has a much better shot against Ryung than against herO tbh.

Stats vs TY as one of the first 3 matches in Group B. Okay.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Semikolon
Profile Joined February 2016
Norway46 Posts
March 02 2017 09:34 GMT
#76
On March 02 2017 18:28 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2017 18:27 Semikolon wrote:
On March 02 2017 18:20 Musicus wrote:
If any of those players has Jetlag, it's their own fault tbh. Just arrive 2 days earlier, there were no games going on in Korea this week.

If Zest is still on Nation Wars level he will not advance, but I think he will have improved a lot since then.


I agree. It's just too easy to blame potential KR losses on jet lag and the like.

I also think that foreigners do have a shot here. Nerchio is in super form, Showtime definitely has the potential to advance, and so does uThermal. Probably not both of them, though

Snute will probably have a tough time against the KR terrans, but I think he can beat both herO and Solar.


That's pretty optimistic for snute. herO and solar are much better players in general. I guess it remains to be seen what his level is really at


I'm not saying he's going to beat them, I'm saying he can - and he has previously.

It's going to be tough... but I believe!
Malgo
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany76 Posts
March 02 2017 09:34 GMT
#77
On March 02 2017 18:30 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2017 18:27 Semikolon wrote:
On March 02 2017 18:20 Musicus wrote:
If any of those players has Jetlag, it's their own fault tbh. Just arrive 2 days earlier, there were no games going on in Korea this week.

If Zest is still on Nation Wars level he will not advance, but I think he will have improved a lot since then.


I agree. It's just too easy to blame potential KR losses on jet lag and the like.

I also think that foreigners do have a shot here. Nerchio is in super form, Showtime definitely has the potential to advance, and so does uThermal. Probably not both of them, though

Snute will probably have a tough time against the KR terrans, but I think he can beat both herO and Solar.



I think he has a much better shot against Ryung than against herO tbh.



i agree with that. if ryung goes mech (what he will probably do) snute has a big chance to beat him. ryungs TvZ is not very strong compared to his TvT (he will beat byun, called it!).
Semikolon
Profile Joined February 2016
Norway46 Posts
March 02 2017 09:38 GMT
#78
These games are going to be awesome, I can't wait!

I'm flying down to Katowice tomorrow, and will see group C/D + the playoffs live. Mega hyped :D
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
March 02 2017 09:44 GMT
#79
On March 02 2017 18:30 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2017 18:27 Semikolon wrote:
On March 02 2017 18:20 Musicus wrote:
If any of those players has Jetlag, it's their own fault tbh. Just arrive 2 days earlier, there were no games going on in Korea this week.

If Zest is still on Nation Wars level he will not advance, but I think he will have improved a lot since then.


I agree. It's just too easy to blame potential KR losses on jet lag and the like.

I also think that foreigners do have a shot here. Nerchio is in super form, Showtime definitely has the potential to advance, and so does uThermal. Probably not both of them, though

Snute will probably have a tough time against the KR terrans, but I think he can beat both herO and Solar.

I think he has a much better shot against Ryung than against herO tbh.

Stats vs TY as one of the first 3 matches in Group B. Okay.


What are your general thoughts on stats in lotv as far as playstyle?

I can't figure him out as a player. It feels like he does nothing exceptionally well other than playing exceptionally consistent
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 02 2017 09:45 GMT
#80
On March 02 2017 18:20 Musicus wrote:
If any of those players has Jetlag, it's their own fault tbh. Just arrive 2 days earlier, there were no games going on in Korea this week.


To he fair to zest, that was the plan but he forgot his passport or something and had to fly out today.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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