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asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
October 30 2016 23:24 GMT
#1121
Dark will ZvP his way to the championship
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 23:31:13
October 30 2016 23:28 GMT
#1122
On October 31 2016 08:09 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 08:03 Poopi wrote:
On October 31 2016 07:34 Hider wrote:
Nerchio was like 80% in matches against Elazer ^^.


Yes what's your point?

That we don't use previous results and just imagine future outcomes based on what we would like to see?

Have you considered signing up to a bookie and placing money based on whether players say they are scared of other players?

I am sure you would quite quickly find alot of good betting opportunies. So nice way for a good profit if your methdology works.

Don't be mad if you don't know how much confidence contributes to player winning or losing ^^'.
The fact that this method doesn't work for every match doesn't mean it won't work for this match haha.
It's so funny how everytime you bring money up as if it'll validate your point XD.


Sure then open an account on the bookmaker and bet based on confidence. Why not say yes to free money?

You don't like free money?

Or you are too afraid to place money where your mouth is?


Although I have bet of players a fair amount in the past with a decent profit %. Not everyone is willing to bet money on players. Dark will 3-0 Neeb most likely, I think we all know this. Just wait till friday and see

Also, Neeb did not sound confident vs Dark at all. He probably jsut wanted to say something either way for the camera.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 23:47:23
October 30 2016 23:40 GMT
#1123
Not everyone is willing to bet money on players


Yes, those who deep down inside don't actually think they can beat the bookmakers.

But it's free to just spew bullshit on the internet so people like Poppi will continue to do that.

He probably jsut wanted to say something either way for the camera.

Exactly.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 23:46:55
October 30 2016 23:45 GMT
#1124
Btw we need a timemachine so we Innovation 2013 can play against Byun 2016, which will give Stuchiu the opportunity to become really rich.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
October 30 2016 23:56 GMT
#1125
On October 31 2016 08:09 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 08:03 Poopi wrote:
On October 31 2016 07:34 Hider wrote:
Nerchio was like 80% in matches against Elazer ^^.


Yes what's your point?

That we don't use previous results and just imagine future outcomes based on what we would like to see?

Have you considered signing up to a bookie and placing money based on whether players say they are scared of other players?

I am sure you would quite quickly find alot of good betting opportunies. So nice way for a good profit if your methdology works.

Don't be mad if you don't know how much confidence contributes to player winning or losing ^^'.
The fact that this method doesn't work for every match doesn't mean it won't work for this match haha.
It's so funny how everytime you bring money up as if it'll validate your point XD.


Sure then open an account on the bookmaker and bet based on confidence. Why not say yes to free money?

You don't like free money?

Or you are too afraid to place money where your mouth is?

Are you trying to sound the least bright possible or what xD?
Gaining money on gambling is about having a positive expected value, not gambling on just one match, so why would I bet on Neeb vs Dark? Either way that wouldn't prove that what I say is true, not will it disprove it ^^.
You are the one spitting bullshit , especially since gambling and stuff didn't seem to do too well to the korean scene, encouraging people to gamble on matches isn't really a nice thing to ask at all.
WriterMaru
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
October 31 2016 00:00 GMT
#1126
So in a tournament that had 7 zerg, 7 protoss, and only 2 terran, they're forcing one of the Terrans to be eliminated before the semifinal.

Wow. Absolutely unacceptable.
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 31 2016 00:08 GMT
#1127
On October 31 2016 09:00 J. Corsair wrote:
So in a tournament that had 7 zerg, 7 protoss, and only 2 terran, they're forcing one of the Terrans to be eliminated before the semifinal.

Wow. Absolutely unacceptable.


Lol blame ByuN for playing badly vs ShoWtimE
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
October 31 2016 00:17 GMT
#1128
Any recommended matches?
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-31 00:28:17
October 31 2016 00:23 GMT
#1129
Not good brackets If Showtime wins now some people here will forever whine about bracket luck instead accepting of a great achievement.

Also the early TvT is painful with so few terran. On the other hand it's a pretty hype match that we might of been denied of if they were opposite eachother. But no chances for ZvT untill finals which is a shame.

Couldnt watch today but seems most matches went as expected. Bit sad the replacement man dream is dead but oh well.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-31 00:32:39
October 31 2016 00:29 GMT
#1130
On October 31 2016 09:08 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 09:00 J. Corsair wrote:
So in a tournament that had 7 zerg, 7 protoss, and only 2 terran, they're forcing one of the Terrans to be eliminated before the semifinal.

Wow. Absolutely unacceptable.


Lol blame ByuN for playing badly vs ShoWtimE

He didn't play especially badly. ShoWTimE was able to study countless vods of ByuN and was prepared so the odds were in his favour g2 (didn't see g1), especially on new Gettysburg, with ByuN getting nervous and not realizing soon enough that he should have played it more like TY.
When you watch some EU T stream and they are against ShoWTimE he always appear as an unbreakable wall, whereas most Korean P take fast third without much units or try to harass early without having much at home.

Edit : recommended matchs.

Dear vs ByuN g2 if you like cyclone action, g1 if you like perfectly timed strong Terran pushes. Otherwise not very interesting.

Nerchio vs Elazer g2.

Neeb vs Patience g1 and g2.

WriterMaru
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-31 00:50:53
October 31 2016 00:49 GMT
#1131
On October 31 2016 09:29 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 09:08 Fango wrote:
On October 31 2016 09:00 J. Corsair wrote:
So in a tournament that had 7 zerg, 7 protoss, and only 2 terran, they're forcing one of the Terrans to be eliminated before the semifinal.

Wow. Absolutely unacceptable.


Lol blame ByuN for playing badly vs ShoWtimE

He didn't play especially badly. ShoWTimE was able to study countless vods of ByuN and was prepared so the odds were in his favour g2 (didn't see g1), especially on new Gettysburg, with ByuN getting nervous and not realizing soon enough that he should have played it more like TY.
When you watch some EU T stream and they are against ShoWTimE he always appear as an unbreakable wall, whereas most Korean P take fast third without much units or try to harass early without having much at home.


After watching many many ByuN games I can confirm he played poorly vs ShoWtimE.

If you see g1 he had a massive shot and then bunged it hard. He left like 5 liberators on the other side of the map doing nothing (1 or 2 to deny mining is good, not all of them). He also lost his forces doing counterattacks to DTs, instead of retreating them. And he overmade vikings too soon. If he just had his forces together he could have won g1 easily. Showtime basically A-moved him.
It's also the first time I've seen him fail to split against disruptors, after all the GIFs of him dodging like 4 shots at once you could tell he was feeling the nerves.

g2 was going better for ByuN but he failed to get the damage he normally does. And he even had a decent shot at forcing a draw (gettysburg being the best map for it) and messed that up hard. His unit control just kinda stopped working

Todays games were all kinda crappy tbh. ByuN vs Dear was ok, just ok. Elazer vs Nerchio g2 was good, Neeb vs Patience g2 was cool (although i'm a bit sick of disruptor wars by now)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-31 01:54:25
October 31 2016 01:53 GMT
#1132
I really really want to kill ByuN now, if he did not play poorly against ShowTime, we could have had the best Ro4 Blizzcon ever with Dark vs ByuN and TY vs Zest. But by losing to Showtime, he destroyed everything, now we have Dark vs 3 foreigners who will most likely get rekted by him in very one-sided matchs and in other bracket, we have 2 mirrors with the last 2 terrans will have to kill each other. As a Terran player in particular and a SC fan in general, this is the most painful thing to watch.
Damn you ByuN, why did you do this for us
Neptuneajax
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia206 Posts
October 31 2016 02:20 GMT
#1133
So in a tournament that had 7 zerg, 7 protoss, and only 2 terran, they're forcing one of the Terrans to be eliminated before the semifinal.

Wow. Absolutely unacceptable.

How is it "unacceptable"?
Two Terrans qualified. They put in their performances and got matched up in the round of 8. The bracket selection was broadcast live. Yeah it sucks to be a Terran fan here. But in no way is this "unacceptable". Do you want Blizzard to be like "nah fuck it we don't like the look of that, redraw the bracket plz". Everyone here got their spot deservedly.
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
October 31 2016 02:32 GMT
#1134
On October 31 2016 09:49 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 09:29 Poopi wrote:
On October 31 2016 09:08 Fango wrote:
On October 31 2016 09:00 J. Corsair wrote:
So in a tournament that had 7 zerg, 7 protoss, and only 2 terran, they're forcing one of the Terrans to be eliminated before the semifinal.

Wow. Absolutely unacceptable.


Lol blame ByuN for playing badly vs ShoWtimE

He didn't play especially badly. ShoWTimE was able to study countless vods of ByuN and was prepared so the odds were in his favour g2 (didn't see g1), especially on new Gettysburg, with ByuN getting nervous and not realizing soon enough that he should have played it more like TY.
When you watch some EU T stream and they are against ShoWTimE he always appear as an unbreakable wall, whereas most Korean P take fast third without much units or try to harass early without having much at home.


After watching many many ByuN games I can confirm he played poorly vs ShoWtimE.

If you see g1 he had a massive shot and then bunged it hard. He left like 5 liberators on the other side of the map doing nothing (1 or 2 to deny mining is good, not all of them). He also lost his forces doing counterattacks to DTs, instead of retreating them. And he overmade vikings too soon. If he just had his forces together he could have won g1 easily. Showtime basically A-moved him.
It's also the first time I've seen him fail to split against disruptors, after all the GIFs of him dodging like 4 shots at once you could tell he was feeling the nerves.

g2 was going better for ByuN but he failed to get the damage he normally does. And he even had a decent shot at forcing a draw (gettysburg being the best map for it) and messed that up hard. His unit control just kinda stopped working

Todays games were all kinda crappy tbh. ByuN vs Dear was ok, just ok. Elazer vs Nerchio g2 was good, Neeb vs Patience g2 was cool (although i'm a bit sick of disruptor wars by now)


Korean style plays with much more than 3 colossus so he made vikings to play vs that style since he expected it. Also, Showtime was ready for his early pushes with a fast colossus and good control to keep it from being sniped so Byun never really got early damage in.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
October 31 2016 02:43 GMT
#1135
On October 31 2016 09:17 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?

Watch group A and group D over and over again.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
October 31 2016 04:23 GMT
#1136
On October 08 2016 03:46 vult wrote:
PPl seriously underrate Elazer for Blizzcon but I really think he is the dark horse going into it. I think he is much more consistent than violet/polt and has proven his ability to slay foreigners.

I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
October 31 2016 04:37 GMT
#1137
At the end of Blizzcon, will Blizzard be releasing the replays, or do we not know? As much as I love watching it live, I would love to have the opportunity do dissect the players and copy their strategies. It's a lot easier to do so with the ability to pause, rewind, and look everywhere on the map. I would definitely understand if Blizzard doesn't release the replays but would be cool if they do.
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
October 31 2016 05:12 GMT
#1138
where can i watch the vods?
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
October 31 2016 05:33 GMT
#1139
LMAO Blizzard couldn't be more obvious trying to have a foreigner in the final. Part one accomplished by having all foreign R08 match to ensure a foreigner in the semis and they are clearly hoping on Neeb to win so that they could ride that hype train. And having TY and ByuN face each other is just pathetic
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
October 31 2016 05:39 GMT
#1140
On October 31 2016 14:12 scarper65 wrote:
where can i watch the vods?

https://www.twitch.tv/starcraft/videos/all
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