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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 30 2016 21:54 GMT
#1101
On October 31 2016 06:52 djraphi23 wrote:




Do Snute and Nerchio not get along ? For Snute to say these things on social media, it must be pretty serious.

I know Nerchio has a history of being kind of BM but I don't know anything specific towards Snute
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10111 Posts
October 30 2016 21:54 GMT
#1102
On October 31 2016 06:52 djraphi23 wrote:
https://twitter.com/LiquidSnute/status/792843287505887232

https://twitter.com/LiquidSnute/status/792843478606704645

Do Snute and Nerchio not get along ? For Snute to say these things on social media, it must be pretty serious.

he said he enjoyed eliminating Nerchio from several tournamets in his Copa interview
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
October 30 2016 21:54 GMT
#1103
Man, brackets could have been better, I hope Neeb can step up his PvZ against Dark and hopefully we get a sick Shotime/Neeb vs TY or Byun final.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 30 2016 21:56 GMT
#1104
On October 31 2016 06:49 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
And come on Neeb saying he doesn't find Dark scary means nothing.


Neeb is roughly 50-50 against mediocre zerg players like Scarlett and True over a pretty large sample size and has within the last 3 weeks lost to both of them in their most recent encounters (bo5s).

But he doesn't find Dark scary, so let's ignore all of his recent PvZ results.

Dark is like 80% to take that series. I am probably gonna bet money on it when the bookmakers opens the line because I expect they will only give Dark like a 60-40 edge.


Not a bad call. I'm not sure how they actually calculate odds tbh but they gave Neeb a high chance of winning the whole thing
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 30 2016 21:58 GMT
#1105
On October 31 2016 06:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 06:52 djraphi23 wrote:
https://twitter.com/LiquidSnute/status/792843287505887232

https://twitter.com/LiquidSnute/status/792843478606704645

Do Snute and Nerchio not get along ? For Snute to say these things on social media, it must be pretty serious.

I know Nerchio has a history of being kind of BM but I don't know anything specific towards Snute


I think Snute has been quite clear in the past he isn't a masive fan of Nerchio at least.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 30 2016 21:59 GMT
#1106
On October 31 2016 06:52 djraphi23 wrote:
https://twitter.com/LiquidSnute/status/792843287505887232

https://twitter.com/LiquidSnute/status/792843478606704645

Do Snute and Nerchio not get along ? For Snute to say these things on social media, it must be pretty serious.

im pretty sure snute had nerchio blocked on battlenet for quite a while
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 30 2016 22:03 GMT
#1107
Looks like we will get the exKT vs exSKT final we all wanted anyway
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
October 30 2016 22:11 GMT
#1108
On October 31 2016 06:56 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 06:49 Hider wrote:
And come on Neeb saying he doesn't find Dark scary means nothing.


Neeb is roughly 50-50 against mediocre zerg players like Scarlett and True over a pretty large sample size and has within the last 3 weeks lost to both of them in their most recent encounters (bo5s).

But he doesn't find Dark scary, so let's ignore all of his recent PvZ results.

Dark is like 80% to take that series. I am probably gonna bet money on it when the bookmakers opens the line because I expect they will only give Dark like a 60-40 edge.


Not a bad call. I'm not sure how they actually calculate odds tbh but they gave Neeb a high chance of winning the whole thing


Yep that's exactly why and bookmakers genrally don't look into matchup advantages/disadvantages.
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1224 Posts
October 30 2016 22:18 GMT
#1109
nice Elazer!

ggs Nerchio
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 30 2016 22:25 GMT
#1110
On October 31 2016 06:29 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 06:13 Poopi wrote:
I call him and Neeb the best at this matchup because I watched their entire bo5 at a foreign tournament earlier this year (and that's rare considering I barely watch non T matchups) and was amazed by what they were able to produce in game...
Then I watched some proleague ZvP and the level was so horrible (wasn't top tier koreans but still decent, like Classic or Stats?) that I wondered if it was matchfixed or if they really became as bad as that.
I have my answer now :x.
Aligulac stats are just a bonus, kind of like for ByuN.


I dunno what games you saw but most proleague games are simpler. They stick to the current meta like butter on bread. I just don't believe that after Dark conquered Korea as far as Starleagues go, that Nerchio can be considered better by merely drawing with the top of europe (and losing to most Koreans).

I can see a 3:0 for Dark happening. If Neeb can't beat True or Scarlett or Snute, and almost lost to Pet. I have little faith in him taking out Dark (who currently beats litterally every Korean protoss).


I think that although Dark is favoured, his ZvP is his worst matchup. If you look through his match history, he is rather inconsistent in his PvZ. He has a 53% winrate.

Neeb has a 63% winrate in PvZ, and though a number of these were against foreigners, it's not like everyone Dark won against was playing at a super high level.

As for Scarlett and Pet, Neeb trained with them, and so they knew his play style very well. It's like when Zest lost 3-0 against TY but won a combined 4-1 against Byun. It's not that Zest suddenly got worse but that TY knew his play style and how to counter him.

For TRUE and Snute, it is true that Neeb did lose against them. However, Neeb has played many tight series with TRUE.

So, yes, Neeb has not played as well against Zerg recently, but he might step it up, and of course, Scarlett and Pet were practice partners with him.

I think that of the two top Zerg players, Dark and Solar, Neeb had the best chance against Dark just because Dark doesn't know Neeb's play style.


"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
October 30 2016 22:26 GMT
#1111
On October 31 2016 06:49 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
And come on Neeb saying he doesn't find Dark scary means nothing.


Neeb is roughly 50-50 against mediocre zerg players like Scarlett and True over a pretty large sample size and has within the last 3 weeks lost to both of them in their most recent encounters (bo5s).

But he doesn't find Dark scary, so let's ignore all of his recent PvZ results. /s

Dark is like 80% to take that series. I am probably gonna bet money on it when the bookmakers opens the line because I expect they will only give Dark like a 60-40 edge.

Nerchio was like 80% in matches against Elazer ^^.
Thank you for trying tho .
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
October 30 2016 22:32 GMT
#1112
On October 31 2016 07:25 FrkFrJss wrote:
I think that although Dark is favoured, his ZvP is his worst matchup. If you look through his match history, he is rather inconsistent in his PvZ. He has a 53% winrate.

ZvP is his best matchup in LotV and it's not even close.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 30 2016 22:33 GMT
#1113
Artur?! No! You were supposed to humble Dark, but got humbled instead
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
October 30 2016 22:34 GMT
#1114
Fuckkkk the bracket :////
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
October 30 2016 22:34 GMT
#1115
Nerchio was like 80% in matches against Elazer ^^.


Yes what's your point?

That we don't use previous results and just imagine future outcomes based on what we would like to see?

Have you considered signing up to a bookie and placing money based on whether players say they are scared of other players?

I am sure you would quite quickly find alot of good betting opportunies. So nice way for a good profit if your methdology works.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 30 2016 22:42 GMT
#1116
On October 31 2016 07:32 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 07:25 FrkFrJss wrote:
I think that although Dark is favoured, his ZvP is his worst matchup. If you look through his match history, he is rather inconsistent in his PvZ. He has a 53% winrate.

ZvP is his best matchup in LotV and it's not even close.


Whoop, misread aligulac. But hey, he might make it close.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
October 30 2016 22:44 GMT
#1117
On October 31 2016 07:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Looks like we will get the exKT vs exSKT final we all wanted anyway

yes but which exKT?
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
October 30 2016 23:03 GMT
#1118
On October 31 2016 07:34 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
Nerchio was like 80% in matches against Elazer ^^.


Yes what's your point?

That we don't use previous results and just imagine future outcomes based on what we would like to see?

Have you considered signing up to a bookie and placing money based on whether players say they are scared of other players?

I am sure you would quite quickly find alot of good betting opportunies. So nice way for a good profit if your methdology works.

Don't be mad if you don't know how much confidence contributes to player winning or losing ^^'.
The fact that this method doesn't work for every match doesn't mean it won't work for this match haha.
It's so funny how everytime you bring money up as if it'll validate your point XD.
WriterMaru
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 23:11:31
October 30 2016 23:09 GMT
#1119
On October 31 2016 08:03 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 07:34 Hider wrote:
Nerchio was like 80% in matches against Elazer ^^.


Yes what's your point?

That we don't use previous results and just imagine future outcomes based on what we would like to see?

Have you considered signing up to a bookie and placing money based on whether players say they are scared of other players?

I am sure you would quite quickly find alot of good betting opportunies. So nice way for a good profit if your methdology works.

Don't be mad if you don't know how much confidence contributes to player winning or losing ^^'.
The fact that this method doesn't work for every match doesn't mean it won't work for this match haha.
It's so funny how everytime you bring money up as if it'll validate your point XD.


Sure then open an account on the bookmaker and bet based on confidence. Why not say yes to free money?

You don't like free money?

Or you are too afraid to place money where your mouth is?
Vanillatoss
Profile Joined May 2016
76 Posts
October 30 2016 23:12 GMT
#1120
if Elazer beats Showtime as he did 2 weeks ago.. he can surelly change his nickname to Erazer
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