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Luolis
Finland7094 Posts
On October 31 2016 05:36 ArtyK wrote: Sometimes i think he's paid more money to trigger people on twitter than from his analyst job One could expect it from his twitter feed yea | ||
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Topin
Peru10039 Posts
On October 31 2016 05:34 Shellshock wrote: Bracket is perfect. Only wanted to see Ty vs Byun. Rest of the tournament idgaf well... thats another way to see it.... maybe i can agree with that | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On October 31 2016 05:36 Charoisaur wrote: congrats Dark for reaching the finals. expect TY/Byun to face him. I think you mean Neeb, Dark can't handle the adepts | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15875 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On October 31 2016 05:36 Charoisaur wrote: congrats Dark for reaching the finals. expect TY/Byun to face him. I cannot see ByuN beating TY or Zest tbh. His best chance is TY>Stats but even then. We're almost garanteed a Dark TY final. | ||
Poopi
France12761 Posts
On October 31 2016 05:36 Charoisaur wrote: congrats Dark for reaching the finals. expect TY/Byun to face him. It'll be super hard for Dark considering all three foreigners in his side of the bracket can beat him. I'd say Elazer is favored against him in bo3 (when playing two ZvZ in a row against Nerchio/Elazer the same day) but not really in bo5 (Dark will have the time to watch Elazer play and adapt enough to beat him, or even beat him while offracing terran), ShoWTime it's even and Neeb 70-30 for Neeb. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/cb98100b41a28a8ebb804e85d196d5bf.png) edit: I messed up the Neeb Dark score. I know everyone says Neeb, but Neeb has yet to prove he can beat Korean Zerg's. Even Pet almost took him out of kespa cup | ||
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
On October 31 2016 05:40 Fango wrote: Here ya go I screenshotted this of liquipedia next week ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/c0e1162a83f849321ba6c42b802eeb25.png) edit: I know everyone says Neeb, but Neeb has yet to prove he can beat Korean Zerg's. Even Pet almost took him out of kespa cup He beat Rogue and Pet afaik, and was sometimes able to beat Nerchio, the best ZvPer in the world. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On October 31 2016 05:42 Poopi wrote: He beat Rogue and Pet afaik, and was sometimes able to beat Nerchio, the best ZvPer in the world. Disagree a lot. Rogue and pet have nothing on Dark, litterally nothing. And Nerchio is not the best ZvPer in the world. Why is Nerchio considered by everyone to be the best ZvP/T in the world? He has never shown he can beat top Korean terran or protoss like Dark does on a regular basis. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6504 Posts
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
On October 31 2016 05:44 Fango wrote: Disagree a lot. Rogue and pet have nothing on Dark, litterally nothing. And Nerchio is not the best ZvPer in the world. Why is Nerchio considered by everyone to be the best ZvP/T in the world? He has never shown he can beat top Korean terran or protoss like Dark does on a regular basis. Nerchio has better vP/vT (and even vZ lol) than Dark on aligulac. Plus if you watch the games you realize that he is straight up better. He was able to beat Neeb in bo5! | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On October 31 2016 05:47 Poopi wrote: Nerchio has better vP/vT (and even vZ lol) than Dark on aligulac. That doesn't make him the best. Remember Koreans and Europeans haven't been able to fight this year almost at all. Dark destroyed Stats, Zest, TY, ByuN, Classic, Solar and others on his way to wins in Korea. Nerchio has shown nothing close to that. Nerchio has beaten Classic, and lost to Patience Maru and TY in a row. I do not agree than Nerchio having a lot of wins in online cups means he can be called the best Zerg player when he can't perform in real tournaments. NErchio beats or draws with european players. Dark kills everyone in Korea. Clear difference there | ||
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bulya
Israel386 Posts
On October 31 2016 05:18 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/792822744383688708 Thorin calling rigged. Showtime could play either Elazer, Neeb, or Stats, in other words its a 66% for him to play a foreigner, not a surprise at all. | ||
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Executer08
Germany163 Posts
On October 31 2016 05:23 rednusa wrote: There was 1/3 chance that all three foreigners would end up in the same half. Chances not extremely low. Edit: whoops forgot he couldnt play vs byun either. yeah really stupid tweet by thorin | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
The more edgy he is on Twitter, the more people will retweet, follow and answered and thus be in the talks. In the end it is some kind of trumpism. And it works. | ||
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
On October 31 2016 05:52 Fango wrote: That doesn't make him the best. Remember Koreans and Europeans haven't been able to fight this year almost at all. Dark destroyed Stats, Zest, TY, ByuN, Classic, Solar and others on his way to wins in Korea. Nerchio has shown nothing close to that. Nerchio has beaten Classic, and lost to Patience Maru and TY in a row. I do not agree than Nerchio having a lot of wins in online cups means he can be called the best Zerg player when he can't perform in real tournaments. NErchio beats or draws with european players. Dark kills everyone in Korea. Clear difference there Dark points mainly come from the fact that in early LotV where P/Z were destroying terran so easily that SSL was almost only P/Z, which he got most of his points from. He is a bit overrated because he is the least bad looking zerg in Korea, but top EU zergs can be as good as him or even better. EU is very solid (as evidenced by ShoWTime) so having draw against top EU players isn't necessarily a bad thing ^^ | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On October 31 2016 06:00 Poopi wrote: Dark points mainly come from early LotV where P/Z were destroying terran so easily that SSL was almost only P/Z. He is a bit overrated because he is the least bad looking zerg in Korea, but top EU zergs can be as good as him or even better. EU is very solid (as evidenced by ShoWTime) so having draw against top EU players isn't necessarily a bad thing ^^ The very best EU players (showtime and nerchio) are capable of playing against/beating Koreans. That's it. Other than them the level of play in Korea is so much higher. When has Nerchio proven he can beat top korean protoss or terran? never. The only wins of his career are Classic and Solar (2 very well earned wins) and his losses include Patience TY and Maru, it's nothing compared to Dark litterally beating every top Korean player (Zest, Stats, TY, ByuN etc). I'm not saying drawing with EU players in bad, Nerchio is the best european player. But you cannot say he's better than Dark based of results within the EU playerbase. Same with Neeb, he has not proved he can beat top Korean Terran or Zerg yet people say he can based of him beating EU players. edit: tldr: Nerchio has high winrates because he plays in EU/online cups so much. Dark beats every Korean player in real tournaments which is somethign Nerchio couldn't dream of. Until Nerchio actually starts beating Korean protoss or terran, you can't call him the best ZvP/T in the world | ||
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Poopi
France12761 Posts
Then I watched some proleague ZvP and the level was so horrible (wasn't top tier koreans but still decent, like Classic or Stats?) that I wondered if it was matchfixed or if they really became as bad as that. I have my answer now :x. Aligulac stats are just a bonus, kind of like for ByuN. | ||
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hallonpaj
Sweden15 Posts
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