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Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7104 Posts
October 30 2016 20:37 GMT
#1061
On October 31 2016 05:36 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 05:35 Luolis wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:23 rednusa wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:18 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:


Thorin calling rigged.


There was 1/3 chance that all three foreigners would end up in the same half. Chances not extremely low.

Thorin needs some attention by being edgy on twitter :>


Sometimes i think he's paid more money to trigger people on twitter than from his analyst job

One could expect it from his twitter feed yea
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10078 Posts
October 30 2016 20:37 GMT
#1062
On October 31 2016 05:34 Shellshock wrote:
Bracket is perfect. Only wanted to see Ty vs Byun. Rest of the tournament idgaf

well... thats another way to see it.... maybe i can agree with that
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 30 2016 20:37 GMT
#1063
On October 31 2016 05:36 Charoisaur wrote:
congrats Dark for reaching the finals. expect TY/Byun to face him.

I think you mean Neeb, Dark can't handle the adepts
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
October 30 2016 20:39 GMT
#1064
wow, didn't expect Elazer to beat Nerchio. But considering it's the matchup in which Solar lost to Elazer and Nerchio I shouldn't be to surprised.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 30 2016 20:39 GMT
#1065
On October 31 2016 05:36 Charoisaur wrote:
congrats Dark for reaching the finals. expect TY/Byun to face him.


I cannot see ByuN beating TY or Zest tbh. His best chance is TY>Stats but even then. We're almost garanteed a Dark TY final.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12880 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 20:41:21
October 30 2016 20:39 GMT
#1066
On October 31 2016 05:36 Charoisaur wrote:
congrats Dark for reaching the finals. expect TY/Byun to face him.

It'll be super hard for Dark considering all three foreigners in his side of the bracket can beat him.
I'd say Elazer is favored against him in bo3 (when playing two ZvZ in a row against Nerchio/Elazer the same day) but not really in bo5 (Dark will have the time to watch Elazer play and adapt enough to beat him, or even beat him while offracing terran), ShoWTime it's even and Neeb 70-30 for Neeb.
WriterMaru
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 20:47:17
October 30 2016 20:40 GMT
#1067
Here ya go I screenshotted this of liquipedia next week
[image loading]

edit: I messed up the Neeb Dark score.
I know everyone says Neeb, but Neeb has yet to prove he can beat Korean Zerg's. Even Pet almost took him out of kespa cup
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12880 Posts
October 30 2016 20:42 GMT
#1068
On October 31 2016 05:40 Fango wrote:
Here ya go I screenshotted this of liquipedia next week
[image loading]

edit: I know everyone says Neeb, but Neeb has yet to prove he can beat Korean Zerg's. Even Pet almost took him out of kespa cup

He beat Rogue and Pet afaik, and was sometimes able to beat Nerchio, the best ZvPer in the world.
WriterMaru
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 30 2016 20:44 GMT
#1069
On October 31 2016 05:42 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 05:40 Fango wrote:
Here ya go I screenshotted this of liquipedia next week
[image loading]

edit: I know everyone says Neeb, but Neeb has yet to prove he can beat Korean Zerg's. Even Pet almost took him out of kespa cup

He beat Rogue and Pet afaik, and was sometimes able to beat Nerchio, the best ZvPer in the world.


Disagree a lot. Rogue and pet have nothing on Dark, litterally nothing. And Nerchio is not the best ZvPer in the world. Why is Nerchio considered by everyone to be the best ZvP/T in the world? He has never shown he can beat top Korean terran or protoss like Dark does on a regular basis.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6581 Posts
October 30 2016 20:45 GMT
#1070
oh f*ck neeb vs dark
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12880 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 20:47:40
October 30 2016 20:47 GMT
#1071
On October 31 2016 05:44 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 05:42 Poopi wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:40 Fango wrote:
Here ya go I screenshotted this of liquipedia next week
[image loading]

edit: I know everyone says Neeb, but Neeb has yet to prove he can beat Korean Zerg's. Even Pet almost took him out of kespa cup

He beat Rogue and Pet afaik, and was sometimes able to beat Nerchio, the best ZvPer in the world.


Disagree a lot. Rogue and pet have nothing on Dark, litterally nothing. And Nerchio is not the best ZvPer in the world. Why is Nerchio considered by everyone to be the best ZvP/T in the world? He has never shown he can beat top Korean terran or protoss like Dark does on a regular basis.

Nerchio has better vP/vT (and even vZ lol) than Dark on aligulac.
Plus if you watch the games you realize that he is straight up better. He was able to beat Neeb in bo5!
WriterMaru
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 20:53:42
October 30 2016 20:52 GMT
#1072
On October 31 2016 05:47 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 05:44 Fango wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:42 Poopi wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:40 Fango wrote:
Here ya go I screenshotted this of liquipedia next week
[image loading]

edit: I know everyone says Neeb, but Neeb has yet to prove he can beat Korean Zerg's. Even Pet almost took him out of kespa cup

He beat Rogue and Pet afaik, and was sometimes able to beat Nerchio, the best ZvPer in the world.


Disagree a lot. Rogue and pet have nothing on Dark, litterally nothing. And Nerchio is not the best ZvPer in the world. Why is Nerchio considered by everyone to be the best ZvP/T in the world? He has never shown he can beat top Korean terran or protoss like Dark does on a regular basis.

Nerchio has better vP/vT (and even vZ lol) than Dark on aligulac.


That doesn't make him the best. Remember Koreans and Europeans haven't been able to fight this year almost at all. Dark destroyed Stats, Zest, TY, ByuN, Classic, Solar and others on his way to wins in Korea. Nerchio has shown nothing close to that. Nerchio has beaten Classic, and lost to Patience Maru and TY in a row.

I do not agree than Nerchio having a lot of wins in online cups means he can be called the best Zerg player when he can't perform in real tournaments. NErchio beats or draws with european players. Dark kills everyone in Korea. Clear difference there
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
October 30 2016 20:52 GMT
#1073
On October 31 2016 05:18 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/792822744383688708

Thorin calling rigged.

Showtime could play either Elazer, Neeb, or Stats, in other words its a 66% for him to play a foreigner, not a surprise at all.
Executer08
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany163 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 20:54:31
October 30 2016 20:53 GMT
#1074
On October 31 2016 05:23 rednusa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 05:18 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/792822744383688708

Thorin calling rigged.


There was 1/3 chance that all three foreigners would end up in the same half. Chances not extremely low.


Edit: whoops forgot he couldnt play vs byun either. yeah really stupid tweet by thorin
"You have the image of being a robotic, stoic player among foreign fans. What do you think about that?" - "I don’t think it’s incorrect." || letodSWAG
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
October 30 2016 20:59 GMT
#1075
Thorin is edgy because it sells. He is payed to be edgy (less edgy then on twitter) at desks, but still edgy enough to generate social media talk.
The more edgy he is on Twitter, the more people will retweet, follow and answered and thus be in the talks. In the end it is some kind of trumpism. And it works.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12880 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 21:01:12
October 30 2016 21:00 GMT
#1076
On October 31 2016 05:52 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 05:47 Poopi wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:44 Fango wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:42 Poopi wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:40 Fango wrote:
Here ya go I screenshotted this of liquipedia next week
[image loading]

edit: I know everyone says Neeb, but Neeb has yet to prove he can beat Korean Zerg's. Even Pet almost took him out of kespa cup

He beat Rogue and Pet afaik, and was sometimes able to beat Nerchio, the best ZvPer in the world.


Disagree a lot. Rogue and pet have nothing on Dark, litterally nothing. And Nerchio is not the best ZvPer in the world. Why is Nerchio considered by everyone to be the best ZvP/T in the world? He has never shown he can beat top Korean terran or protoss like Dark does on a regular basis.

Nerchio has better vP/vT (and even vZ lol) than Dark on aligulac.


That doesn't make him the best. Remember Koreans and Europeans haven't been able to fight this year almost at all. Dark destroyed Stats, Zest, TY, ByuN, Classic, Solar and others on his way to wins in Korea. Nerchio has shown nothing close to that. Nerchio has beaten Classic, and lost to Patience Maru and TY in a row.

I do not agree than Nerchio having a lot of wins in online cups means he can be called the best Zerg player when he can't perform in real tournaments. NErchio beats or draws with european players. Dark kills everyone in Korea. Clear difference there

Dark points mainly come from the fact that in early LotV where P/Z were destroying terran so easily that SSL was almost only P/Z, which he got most of his points from. He is a bit overrated because he is the least bad looking zerg in Korea, but top EU zergs can be as good as him or even better.
EU is very solid (as evidenced by ShoWTime) so having draw against top EU players isn't necessarily a bad thing ^^
WriterMaru
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
October 30 2016 21:01 GMT
#1077
BRACKET IS RIGGED
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 21:09:49
October 30 2016 21:07 GMT
#1078
On October 31 2016 06:00 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 05:52 Fango wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:47 Poopi wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:44 Fango wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:42 Poopi wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:40 Fango wrote:
Here ya go I screenshotted this of liquipedia next week
[image loading]

edit: I know everyone says Neeb, but Neeb has yet to prove he can beat Korean Zerg's. Even Pet almost took him out of kespa cup

He beat Rogue and Pet afaik, and was sometimes able to beat Nerchio, the best ZvPer in the world.


Disagree a lot. Rogue and pet have nothing on Dark, litterally nothing. And Nerchio is not the best ZvPer in the world. Why is Nerchio considered by everyone to be the best ZvP/T in the world? He has never shown he can beat top Korean terran or protoss like Dark does on a regular basis.

Nerchio has better vP/vT (and even vZ lol) than Dark on aligulac.


That doesn't make him the best. Remember Koreans and Europeans haven't been able to fight this year almost at all. Dark destroyed Stats, Zest, TY, ByuN, Classic, Solar and others on his way to wins in Korea. Nerchio has shown nothing close to that. Nerchio has beaten Classic, and lost to Patience Maru and TY in a row.

I do not agree than Nerchio having a lot of wins in online cups means he can be called the best Zerg player when he can't perform in real tournaments. NErchio beats or draws with european players. Dark kills everyone in Korea. Clear difference there

Dark points mainly come from early LotV where P/Z were destroying terran so easily that SSL was almost only P/Z. He is a bit overrated because he is the least bad looking zerg in Korea, but top EU zergs can be as good as him or even better.
EU is very solid (as evidenced by ShoWTime) so having draw against top EU players isn't necessarily a bad thing ^^


The very best EU players (showtime and nerchio) are capable of playing against/beating Koreans. That's it. Other than them the level of play in Korea is so much higher. When has Nerchio proven he can beat top korean protoss or terran? never. The only wins of his career are Classic and Solar (2 very well earned wins) and his losses include Patience TY and Maru, it's nothing compared to Dark litterally beating every top Korean player (Zest, Stats, TY, ByuN etc).

I'm not saying drawing with EU players in bad, Nerchio is the best european player. But you cannot say he's better than Dark based of results within the EU playerbase. Same with Neeb, he has not proved he can beat top Korean Terran or Zerg yet people say he can based of him beating EU players.

edit: tldr: Nerchio has high winrates because he plays in EU/online cups so much. Dark beats every Korean player in real tournaments which is somethign Nerchio couldn't dream of. Until Nerchio actually starts beating Korean protoss or terran, you can't call him the best ZvP/T in the world
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12880 Posts
October 30 2016 21:13 GMT
#1079
I call him and Neeb the best at this matchup because I watched their entire bo5 at a foreign tournament earlier this year (and that's rare considering I barely watch non T matchups) and was amazed by what they were able to produce in game...
Then I watched some proleague ZvP and the level was so horrible (wasn't top tier koreans but still decent, like Classic or Stats?) that I wondered if it was matchfixed or if they really became as bad as that.
I have my answer now :x.
Aligulac stats are just a bonus, kind of like for ByuN.
WriterMaru
hallonpaj
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden15 Posts
October 30 2016 21:18 GMT
#1080
Can't belive it, all my hype is lost.... Was hyped for a stacked tournament were we could see the best foreigner vs Koreans. Now we get foreing half and Korean half... And a TvT, fml...
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