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papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
October 30 2016 21:18 GMT
#1081
Awful brackets at least from Terran point of view :-(
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 21:20:52
October 30 2016 21:19 GMT
#1082
Hoping for KR to take the top 3 spots.

Dark fighting!
T P Z sagi
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 21:23:31
October 30 2016 21:23 GMT
#1083
These brackets... foreigners vs Dark and KT vs ByuN.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
October 30 2016 21:23 GMT
#1084
Man those brackets bum me out big time, would've rather seen a Nerchio v T, Dark v Stats, and Neeb v P set of matchups!

TY v Showtime would've also been pretty cool
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
October 30 2016 21:28 GMT
#1085
Here is a way worse way it could have been:
Dark - Neeb
TY - Byun

Showtime - Elazer
Zest - Stats

In other words, Dark, TY, and Byun on the same side of the bracket.
The way it is now Dark can meet one of the other two terrans in the finals, and if Dark or one of the Terrans don't reach it they have proven to be not worth for a final.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 30 2016 21:29 GMT
#1086
On October 31 2016 06:13 Poopi wrote:
I call him and Neeb the best at this matchup because I watched their entire bo5 at a foreign tournament earlier this year (and that's rare considering I barely watch non T matchups) and was amazed by what they were able to produce in game...
Then I watched some proleague ZvP and the level was so horrible (wasn't top tier koreans but still decent, like Classic or Stats?) that I wondered if it was matchfixed or if they really became as bad as that.
I have my answer now :x.
Aligulac stats are just a bonus, kind of like for ByuN.


I dunno what games you saw but most proleague games are simpler. They stick to the current meta like butter on bread. I just don't believe that after Dark conquered Korea as far as Starleagues go, that Nerchio can be considered better by merely drawing with the top of europe (and losing to most Koreans).

I can see a 3:0 for Dark happening. If Neeb can't beat True or Scarlett or Snute, and almost lost to Pet. I have little faith in him taking out Dark (who currently beats litterally every Korean protoss).
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
October 30 2016 21:32 GMT
#1087
On October 31 2016 06:23 Zambrah wrote:
Man those brackets bum me out big time, would've rather seen a Nerchio v T, Dark v Stats, and Neeb v P set of matchups!

TY v Showtime would've also been pretty cool

Even if Nerchio has qualified he could only play Showtime, Zest, or Dark, so Nerchio vs a terran could have happen only in the semis, and that terran would have been Byun in case that scenario happened.

Showtime vs TY wasn't possible either.
Neeb had a 33% for a P, and that P was Showtime, so it isn't a miracle it didn't happen.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 21:34:14
October 30 2016 21:33 GMT
#1088
On October 31 2016 06:18 papaz wrote:
Awful brackets at least from Terran point of view :-(


I disagree. We get see TY (aka the best terran) have an epic TvT against the 2nd best Terran (ByuN) then we get an epic TvP against the best Protoss (Zest/maybe Stats), then we get an epic TvZ against the best Zerg (Dark).

As a terran this will be an amazing run from TY. he litterally has to play the best TvT>TvP>TvZ of his life.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7160 Posts
October 30 2016 21:34 GMT
#1089
On October 31 2016 06:18 hallonpaj wrote:
Can't belive it, all my hype is lost.... Was hyped for a stacked tournament were we could see the best foreigner vs Koreans. Now we get foreing half and Korean half... And a TvT, fml...

Blame the koreans for losing.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7090 Posts
October 30 2016 21:35 GMT
#1090
How is Showtimes PvZ? He played very solid, i could see him go to the finals
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
October 30 2016 21:39 GMT
#1091
On October 31 2016 06:29 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 06:13 Poopi wrote:
I call him and Neeb the best at this matchup because I watched their entire bo5 at a foreign tournament earlier this year (and that's rare considering I barely watch non T matchups) and was amazed by what they were able to produce in game...
Then I watched some proleague ZvP and the level was so horrible (wasn't top tier koreans but still decent, like Classic or Stats?) that I wondered if it was matchfixed or if they really became as bad as that.
I have my answer now :x.
Aligulac stats are just a bonus, kind of like for ByuN.


I dunno what games you saw but most proleague games are simpler. They stick to the current meta like butter on bread. I just don't believe that after Dark conquered Korea as far as Starleagues go, that Nerchio can be considered better by merely drawing with the top of europe (and losing to most Koreans).

I can see a 3:0 for Dark happening. If Neeb can't beat True or Scarlett or Snute, and almost lost to Pet. I have little faith in him taking out Dark (who currently beats litterally every Korean protoss).

I agree that it looks grim with recent results, but they don't mean that much seeing how ShoWTime performed badly recently yet was still able to defeat ByuN.
The thing to remember is that Neeb said he wasn't confident in PvZ... yet wasn't scared by Dark. That says much imo.
However I still see a 3:0 for Dark possible, it's a perfectly valid point of view, even a safer bet for most people, but I'm pretty confident Neeb will be able to "upset" him.
WriterMaru
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9431 Posts
October 30 2016 21:40 GMT
#1092
On October 31 2016 05:47 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 05:44 Fango wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:42 Poopi wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:40 Fango wrote:
Here ya go I screenshotted this of liquipedia next week
[image loading]

edit: I know everyone says Neeb, but Neeb has yet to prove he can beat Korean Zerg's. Even Pet almost took him out of kespa cup

He beat Rogue and Pet afaik, and was sometimes able to beat Nerchio, the best ZvPer in the world.


Disagree a lot. Rogue and pet have nothing on Dark, litterally nothing. And Nerchio is not the best ZvPer in the world. Why is Nerchio considered by everyone to be the best ZvP/T in the world? He has never shown he can beat top Korean terran or protoss like Dark does on a regular basis.

Nerchio has better vP/vT (and even vZ lol) than Dark on aligulac.
Plus if you watch the games you realize that he is straight up better. He was able to beat Neeb in bo5!


Aligulac overrates foreigners vs. koreans. Subtract 100 point from Nerchio's rankings and you get a better comparison.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 30 2016 21:41 GMT
#1093
On October 31 2016 06:35 Harris1st wrote:
How is Showtimes PvZ? He played very solid, i could see him go to the finals


He's pretty much 1:1 against Elazer and Nerchio this year. Could go either way
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
October 30 2016 21:42 GMT
#1094
dark v neeb? are we seriously getting a foreigner in the finals?
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9431 Posts
October 30 2016 21:43 GMT
#1095
On October 31 2016 06:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
dark v neeb? are we seriously getting a foreigner in the finals?


No. Why would that happen?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
October 30 2016 21:45 GMT
#1096
On October 31 2016 06:40 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 05:47 Poopi wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:44 Fango wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:42 Poopi wrote:
On October 31 2016 05:40 Fango wrote:
Here ya go I screenshotted this of liquipedia next week
[image loading]

edit: I know everyone says Neeb, but Neeb has yet to prove he can beat Korean Zerg's. Even Pet almost took him out of kespa cup

He beat Rogue and Pet afaik, and was sometimes able to beat Nerchio, the best ZvPer in the world.


Disagree a lot. Rogue and pet have nothing on Dark, litterally nothing. And Nerchio is not the best ZvPer in the world. Why is Nerchio considered by everyone to be the best ZvP/T in the world? He has never shown he can beat top Korean terran or protoss like Dark does on a regular basis.

Nerchio has better vP/vT (and even vZ lol) than Dark on aligulac.
Plus if you watch the games you realize that he is straight up better. He was able to beat Neeb in bo5!


Aligulac overrates foreigners vs. koreans. Subtract 100 point from Nerchio's rankings and you get a better comparison.

I know it perfectly I was being fallacious since I consider Fango an anti foreigner troll
WriterMaru
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9431 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 21:47:50
October 30 2016 21:46 GMT
#1097
On October 31 2016 04:38 sharkie wrote:
and people said nerchio is on neeb/showtime's level haha


And people said Solar was on Elazers level.

LOOOOL!!!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 21:47:48
October 30 2016 21:47 GMT
#1098
On October 31 2016 06:39 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 06:29 Fango wrote:
On October 31 2016 06:13 Poopi wrote:
I call him and Neeb the best at this matchup because I watched their entire bo5 at a foreign tournament earlier this year (and that's rare considering I barely watch non T matchups) and was amazed by what they were able to produce in game...
Then I watched some proleague ZvP and the level was so horrible (wasn't top tier koreans but still decent, like Classic or Stats?) that I wondered if it was matchfixed or if they really became as bad as that.
I have my answer now :x.
Aligulac stats are just a bonus, kind of like for ByuN.


I dunno what games you saw but most proleague games are simpler. They stick to the current meta like butter on bread. I just don't believe that after Dark conquered Korea as far as Starleagues go, that Nerchio can be considered better by merely drawing with the top of europe (and losing to most Koreans).

I can see a 3:0 for Dark happening. If Neeb can't beat True or Scarlett or Snute, and almost lost to Pet. I have little faith in him taking out Dark (who currently beats litterally every Korean protoss).

I agree that it looks grim with recent results, but they don't mean that much seeing how ShoWTime performed badly recently yet was still able to defeat ByuN.
The thing to remember is that Neeb said he wasn't confident in PvZ... yet wasn't scared by Dark. That says much imo.
However I still see a 3:0 for Dark possible, it's a perfectly valid point of view, even a safer bet for most people, but I'm pretty confident Neeb will be able to "upset" him.


SHoWtimE played quite normally for him though. It was more a failure from ByuN tbh.

And come on Neeb saying he doesn't find Dark scary means nothing. Heck Elazer said he'd be confident against TY then basically broke down any chance he had. It's honestly just that Neeb has never beaten a top Korean Zerg in his whole career. He might be very good PvZ but if he does he ain't seen it yet. And if scarlett, true, and snute can own him.....

Even his invincible PvP has shown it can be worked around, with Zest schooling him and Patience beating him in a disruptor/blink game.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9431 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 22:12:27
October 30 2016 21:49 GMT
#1099
And come on Neeb saying he doesn't find Dark scary means nothing.


Neeb is roughly 50-50 against mediocre zerg players like Scarlett and True over a pretty large sample size and has within the last 3 weeks lost to both of them in their most recent encounters (bo5s).

But he doesn't find Dark scary, so let's ignore all of his recent PvZ results. /s

Dark is like 80% to take that series. I am probably gonna bet money on it when the bookmakers opens the line because I expect they will only give Dark like a 60-40 edge.
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
October 30 2016 21:52 GMT
#1100




Do Snute and Nerchio not get along ? For Snute to say these things on social media, it must be pretty serious.
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