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On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard.
Half of the maps or so are the same as when ByuN beat Dark in GSL ro16
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those blizz ads are very informative.
I didnt even remember heroes of the storm.
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On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard. frost is even at best and dasan is considred to be terran favored
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On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard.
Dasan station I'd give to Zerg just because ByuN and TY are unlikely to cheese. Which is the only way to win i on that map as terran
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On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard. Frost is terran favoured 2 out 3 times. Gettysburg is even I think.
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Time to change SGTK's signature
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On October 30 2016 01:43 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard. Frost is terran favoured 2 out 3 times. Gettysburg is even I think. Gettysburg is definitely not even, even with TY stealing free wins with mech.
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On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard.
Frost is only Zerg favored when cross really.
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On October 30 2016 01:43 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard. Frost is terran favoured 2 out 3 times. Gettysburg is even I think. Gettysburg? Even? Nope.
Also it's not like Dark cares about spawns on Frost, he just wins anyways.
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On October 30 2016 01:43 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard. Gettysburg is even I think.
Ha
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On October 30 2016 01:44 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:43 Musicus wrote:On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard. Frost is terran favoured 2 out 3 times. Gettysburg is even I think. Gettysburg is definitely not even, even with TY stealing free wins with mech.
Gettysburg is the worst tvz map, then apotheosis Frost 2/3 KSS, Dasan are t favored
galactic and frozen temple not sure, kinda depends on playstyle but probably t favored?
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On October 30 2016 01:44 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:43 Musicus wrote:On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard. Frost is terran favoured 2 out 3 times. Gettysburg is even I think. Gettysburg is definitely not even, even with TY stealing free wins with mech. Hm, maybe I just don't know how to play the map then. Always seems good for T for me with the islands and split map potential. Not a great standard bio map of course.
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Map winrates for TvZ:
Apotheosis - 37.5% Gettysburg - 42% Dasan - 46.8% Frost - 48.7% Galactic - 49.7% Frozen - 55.8% Sejong - 60.6%
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On October 30 2016 01:46 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:44 Ej_ wrote:On October 30 2016 01:43 Musicus wrote:On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard. Frost is terran favoured 2 out 3 times. Gettysburg is even I think. Gettysburg is definitely not even, even with TY stealing free wins with mech. Gettysburg is the worst tvz map, then apotheosis Frost 2/3 KSS, Dasan are t favored galactic and frozen temple not sure, kinda depends on playstyle but probably t favored? Maybe is misjudged, but I won't believe that Gettys is worse than Apo.
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On October 30 2016 01:48 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:46 ArtyK wrote:On October 30 2016 01:44 Ej_ wrote:On October 30 2016 01:43 Musicus wrote:On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard. Frost is terran favoured 2 out 3 times. Gettysburg is even I think. Gettysburg is definitely not even, even with TY stealing free wins with mech. Gettysburg is the worst tvz map, then apotheosis Frost 2/3 KSS, Dasan are t favored galactic and frozen temple not sure, kinda depends on playstyle but probably t favored? Maybe is misjudged, but I won't believe that Gettys is worse than Apo.
PvZ apotheosis is worse but gettysburg bio TvZ is worse imo
I guess the winrates above have the answer, although with KSS as the best TvZ map and frost being random it makes for a relatively even map pool tvz?
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On October 30 2016 01:49 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:48 Musicus wrote:On October 30 2016 01:46 ArtyK wrote:On October 30 2016 01:44 Ej_ wrote:On October 30 2016 01:43 Musicus wrote:On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard. Frost is terran favoured 2 out 3 times. Gettysburg is even I think. Gettysburg is definitely not even, even with TY stealing free wins with mech. Gettysburg is the worst tvz map, then apotheosis Frost 2/3 KSS, Dasan are t favored galactic and frozen temple not sure, kinda depends on playstyle but probably t favored? Maybe is misjudged, but I won't believe that Gettys is worse than Apo. PvZ apotheosis is worse but gettysburg bio TvZ is worse imo Yeah, bio I agree, I don't think you should play bio on Gettysburg. My ladder opponents seem to agree .
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On October 30 2016 01:49 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2016 01:49 ArtyK wrote:On October 30 2016 01:48 Musicus wrote:On October 30 2016 01:46 ArtyK wrote:On October 30 2016 01:44 Ej_ wrote:On October 30 2016 01:43 Musicus wrote:On October 30 2016 01:42 Elentos wrote:On October 30 2016 01:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 30 2016 01:39 Fango wrote: I fail to see how Dark can lose to anyone right now with the current map pool. Even TY or ByuN I can't see it Most zergs tend to say the current pool is Terran favored though Gettysburg, Apotheosis & Frost vs King Sejong, Frozen Temple and Galactic Process With Dasan Station being the wildcard. Frost is terran favoured 2 out 3 times. Gettysburg is even I think. Gettysburg is definitely not even, even with TY stealing free wins with mech. Gettysburg is the worst tvz map, then apotheosis Frost 2/3 KSS, Dasan are t favored galactic and frozen temple not sure, kinda depends on playstyle but probably t favored? Maybe is misjudged, but I won't believe that Gettys is worse than Apo. PvZ apotheosis is worse but gettysburg bio TvZ is worse imo Yeah, bio I agree, I don't think you should play bio on Gettysburg. My ladder opponents seem to agree  .
Yeah exactly, so you play mech and lose like TY, that's why it think it's worse
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Basically as Terran you wanna play Frozen, Sejong, and mayybe galactic if you have the skill. So if Zerg vetoes any of them GG I say that but ByuN and Ty are the best of the best
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On October 30 2016 01:47 Elentos wrote: Map winrates for TvZ:
Apotheosis - 37.5% Gettysburg - 42% Dasan - 46.8% Frost - 48.7% Galactic - 49.7% Frozen - 55.8% Sejong - 60.6%
Interesting, how many games on Dasan though? I don't think zergs like to play it vs T at all.
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On October 30 2016 01:50 Fango wrote: Basically as Terran you wanna play Frozen, Sejong, and mayybe galactic if you have the skill. So if Zerg vetoes any of them GG I say that but ByuN and Ty are the best of the best
Well you can veto apotheosis and gettysburg too, unless you're stats...
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