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On October 29 2016 00:51 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Are Dear and ShoWTime both likely to play table tennis in that series ? Not sure. Could end with adept timings. Dear is like the indicator of standard Korean Protoss play. When was the last time he did something out of the ordinary?
thing is when they played vs Neeb all KR seemed quite willing to go into ping pong wars so I think Dear won't mind neither.
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On October 29 2016 00:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:51 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 usopsama wrote:Poll: Whose tears will be the most delicious?Nerchio (9) 75% Elazer (2) 17% ShoWTimE (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Whose tears will be the most delicious? (Vote): ShoWTimE
(Vote): Elazer
(Vote): Nerchio
get your anti foreignerland propanga out of here honestly it's pretty racist No it is not, ffs
Buff foreigner nerf Korean
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On October 29 2016 00:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:51 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 usopsama wrote:Poll: Whose tears will be the most delicious?Nerchio (9) 75% Elazer (2) 17% ShoWTimE (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Whose tears will be the most delicious? (Vote): ShoWTimE
(Vote): Elazer
(Vote): Nerchio
get your anti foreignerland propanga out of here honestly it's pretty racist No it is not, ffs
how is dismissing players on the basis of not being korean not racist
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On October 29 2016 00:49 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:46 Fango wrote:On October 29 2016 00:37 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Dear has a tendency to choke/tilt if he doesn't win the first game, so if Showtime can manage a quick first win, he might throw off Dear and take game 2.
I like Violet's personality, and I think he is good, but he isn't better than Byun.
Elazer has a very tough opponent, I really don't see him getting past Solar.
TY vs Nerchio should be a very good match. I see them as almost equal, but TY might be prepared for Nerchio's style. Everyone says that TY and Nerchio are equal but I don't see it tbh. Nerch has never gone up against the top Korea Terrans other than Maru. And if he struggles to beat Polt or MarineLord on a good day I can't have much hope vs TY (who beats every Korea Zerg other than Dark). Nerchio is for sure the underdog. Well the proof is in the pudding, so we will see how Nerchio stands up to one of the best Terrans at the moment. But I see Nerchio's ZvT as almost figured out, its just that his execution can use improvements. Most of the time he loses not because his plan was flawed, but because he made a few small mistakes. Sometimes its just 1 too many.
he really should have won the series against Maru. that game 1 was just a huge throw. If he can beat Maru the other terrans might be beatable too.
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Dasan, Apotheosis, and Galactic Process all got vetoed I'm happy no matter what happens 
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On October 29 2016 00:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:51 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 usopsama wrote:Poll: Whose tears will be the most delicious?Nerchio (9) 75% Elazer (2) 17% ShoWTimE (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Whose tears will be the most delicious? (Vote): ShoWTimE
(Vote): Elazer
(Vote): Nerchio
get your anti foreignerland propanga out of here honestly it's pretty racist No it is not, ffs
...
If you want to go debate the definition of racism, this thread exists: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=5793.
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On October 29 2016 00:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:51 Elentos wrote:On October 29 2016 00:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Are Dear and ShoWTime both likely to play table tennis in that series ? Not sure. Could end with adept timings. Dear is like the indicator of standard Korean Protoss play. When was the last time he did something out of the ordinary? thing is when they played vs Neeb all KR seemed quite willing to go into ping pong wars so I think Dear won't mind neither.
Yeah maybe. Dear's micro is some of the best and he was one of the last Koreans to use disruptors in PvT.
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On October 29 2016 00:53 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 29 2016 00:51 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 usopsama wrote:Poll: Whose tears will be the most delicious?Nerchio (9) 75% Elazer (2) 17% ShoWTimE (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Whose tears will be the most delicious? (Vote): ShoWTimE
(Vote): Elazer
(Vote): Nerchio
get your anti foreignerland propanga out of here honestly it's pretty racist No it is not, ffs how is dismissing players on the basis of not being korean not racist
especially now that korean SC2 is collapsing. Russian chess collapsed too and no one thought it was going to happen in let's say 1980. Foreigners maybe won't take over this year, but if SC2 survives it will for sure not be dominated by koreans anymore.
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On October 29 2016 00:53 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 29 2016 00:51 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 usopsama wrote:Poll: Whose tears will be the most delicious?Nerchio (9) 75% Elazer (2) 17% ShoWTimE (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Whose tears will be the most delicious? (Vote): ShoWTimE
(Vote): Elazer
(Vote): Nerchio
get your anti foreignerland propanga out of here honestly it's pretty racist No it is not, ffs how is dismissing players on the basis of not being korean not racist
Because Neeb exists and saying Korean is shorthand for "Following rigorous training practices that consistently result in the best results in the world."
Yeah it's a little racist I admit. But when another country (not race!) turns out winners every year, year in and year out, we can come up with a new politically incorrect way of saying it.
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On October 29 2016 00:54 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:49 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On October 29 2016 00:46 Fango wrote:On October 29 2016 00:37 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Dear has a tendency to choke/tilt if he doesn't win the first game, so if Showtime can manage a quick first win, he might throw off Dear and take game 2.
I like Violet's personality, and I think he is good, but he isn't better than Byun.
Elazer has a very tough opponent, I really don't see him getting past Solar.
TY vs Nerchio should be a very good match. I see them as almost equal, but TY might be prepared for Nerchio's style. Everyone says that TY and Nerchio are equal but I don't see it tbh. Nerch has never gone up against the top Korea Terrans other than Maru. And if he struggles to beat Polt or MarineLord on a good day I can't have much hope vs TY (who beats every Korea Zerg other than Dark). Nerchio is for sure the underdog. Well the proof is in the pudding, so we will see how Nerchio stands up to one of the best Terrans at the moment. But I see Nerchio's ZvT as almost figured out, its just that his execution can use improvements. Most of the time he loses not because his plan was flawed, but because he made a few small mistakes. Sometimes its just 1 too many. he really should have won the series against Maru. that game 1 was just a huge throw. If he can beat Maru the other terrans might be beatable too.
Game 2 was also a throw by Maru haha. Even if he 3-0'd Maru I'd still not favour him vs TY
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On October 29 2016 00:53 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 29 2016 00:51 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 usopsama wrote:Poll: Whose tears will be the most delicious?Nerchio (9) 75% Elazer (2) 17% ShoWTimE (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Whose tears will be the most delicious? (Vote): ShoWTimE
(Vote): Elazer
(Vote): Nerchio
get your anti foreignerland propanga out of here honestly it's pretty racist No it is not, ffs how is dismissing players on the basis of not being korean not racist
It is about the perception of skill, not race. You guys are ridiculous.
"Those who are determined to be 'offended' will discover a provocation somewhere. We cannot possibly adjust enough to please the fanatics, and it is degrading to make the attempt."
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Dear has been one of my favorite Protosses when he's been on point - hope he's in good shape !
fighting
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On October 29 2016 00:52 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:48 Fango wrote:On October 29 2016 00:47 Charoisaur wrote: and TY has always struggled against the top of the top players. Has he? The only Zerg Ty has lost to all year is Dark I believe yeah but in the other matchups he also couldn't beat Dear/Zest/Maru (except when Zest was out of form). I don't think he has won a single offline series against a top 5 player at the current time this year. Nerchio's zvt might also be very close to that of Solar/Dark so it will be difficult for him.
Top 5 is usually subjective. But when you say Maru you count Proleague, and when you count Proleague, then he definitely has.
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On October 29 2016 00:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 29 2016 00:51 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 usopsama wrote:Poll: Whose tears will be the most delicious?Nerchio (9) 75% Elazer (2) 17% ShoWTimE (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Whose tears will be the most delicious? (Vote): ShoWTimE
(Vote): Elazer
(Vote): Nerchio
get your anti foreignerland propanga out of here honestly it's pretty racist No it is not, ffs ... If you want to go debate the definition of racism, this thread exists: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/383301-us-politics-mega-thread?page=5793.
Not my fault this bs is brought up every single time
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On October 29 2016 00:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:53 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 00:52 The_Red_Viper wrote:On October 29 2016 00:51 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 00:48 usopsama wrote:Poll: Whose tears will be the most delicious?Nerchio (9) 75% Elazer (2) 17% ShoWTimE (1) 8% 12 total votes Your vote: Whose tears will be the most delicious? (Vote): ShoWTimE
(Vote): Elazer
(Vote): Nerchio
get your anti foreignerland propanga out of here honestly it's pretty racist No it is not, ffs how is dismissing players on the basis of not being korean not racist It is about the perception of skill, not race. You guys are ridiculous. "Those who are determined to be 'offended' will discover a provocation somewhere. We cannot possibly adjust enough to please the fanatics, and it is degrading to make the attempt."
despite Nerchio showing being able to hold his own vs Koreans, you still cheer against him on the basis of him being a foreigner
"lul guys it's about the practice regime!"
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we need Polygon's point of view about this issue as soon as possible
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On October 29 2016 00:54 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:49 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On October 29 2016 00:46 Fango wrote:On October 29 2016 00:37 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Dear has a tendency to choke/tilt if he doesn't win the first game, so if Showtime can manage a quick first win, he might throw off Dear and take game 2.
I like Violet's personality, and I think he is good, but he isn't better than Byun.
Elazer has a very tough opponent, I really don't see him getting past Solar.
TY vs Nerchio should be a very good match. I see them as almost equal, but TY might be prepared for Nerchio's style. Everyone says that TY and Nerchio are equal but I don't see it tbh. Nerch has never gone up against the top Korea Terrans other than Maru. And if he struggles to beat Polt or MarineLord on a good day I can't have much hope vs TY (who beats every Korea Zerg other than Dark). Nerchio is for sure the underdog. Well the proof is in the pudding, so we will see how Nerchio stands up to one of the best Terrans at the moment. But I see Nerchio's ZvT as almost figured out, its just that his execution can use improvements. Most of the time he loses not because his plan was flawed, but because he made a few small mistakes. Sometimes its just 1 too many. he really should have won the series against Maru. that game 1 was just a huge throw. If he can beat Maru the other terrans might be beatable too.
Yeah I thought he had Maru beat, and Maru is a great Terran player.
Nerchio may not be as good as Solar or Dark when it comes to execution, but he understands ZvT just as well as those guys, and Solar/Dark drink terran blood in their coffee.
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On October 29 2016 00:58 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 00:54 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 00:49 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On October 29 2016 00:46 Fango wrote:On October 29 2016 00:37 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Dear has a tendency to choke/tilt if he doesn't win the first game, so if Showtime can manage a quick first win, he might throw off Dear and take game 2.
I like Violet's personality, and I think he is good, but he isn't better than Byun.
Elazer has a very tough opponent, I really don't see him getting past Solar.
TY vs Nerchio should be a very good match. I see them as almost equal, but TY might be prepared for Nerchio's style. Everyone says that TY and Nerchio are equal but I don't see it tbh. Nerch has never gone up against the top Korea Terrans other than Maru. And if he struggles to beat Polt or MarineLord on a good day I can't have much hope vs TY (who beats every Korea Zerg other than Dark). Nerchio is for sure the underdog. Well the proof is in the pudding, so we will see how Nerchio stands up to one of the best Terrans at the moment. But I see Nerchio's ZvT as almost figured out, its just that his execution can use improvements. Most of the time he loses not because his plan was flawed, but because he made a few small mistakes. Sometimes its just 1 too many. he really should have won the series against Maru. that game 1 was just a huge throw. If he can beat Maru the other terrans might be beatable too. Yeah I thought he had Maru beat, and Maru is a great Terran player. Nerchio may not be as good as Solar or Dark when it comes to execution, but he understands ZvT just as well as those guys, and Solar/Dark drink terran blood in their coffee.
ZvT is by far Solar's worst match-up and it always has been.
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