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On September 11 2016 03:58 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 03:56 travis wrote:On September 11 2016 03:49 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2016 03:48 travis wrote:On September 11 2016 03:46 Isualin wrote:On September 11 2016 03:43 Binomyo wrote:
I don't understand why this tournament is elligible to WCS points. Normally there's a relative balance between america, europe and rest of the world in WCS tournament. This one is totally for AM region. The format is more than bizarre. Moreover, this tournament is the last chance to win a place at blizzcon.
This could have been the epic last fight to get to olympia, this is just a 2nd zone tournament with lot of easy money for Showtime.
I'm watching it only because there's no SC2 to watch today beside this one. I think this topic has been discussed to death. No one is arguing these players are code s level. Blizzcon is not the tournament where best players duke it out. All players will represent their countries/regions there. these players may not be korean (except hydra) but they still are some of the best in the world.. any of these players, except maybe 1 or 2 of them, are capable of giving great bo5/bo7 or even winning it vs the absolute top koreans okay, let's not get ahead of ourselves... have snute scarlett showtime neeb and uthermal not all shown that they are capable of beating the best in the world? Out of these maybe Neeb could compete with top 4 of GSL/SSL in a non-mirror.
it's my understanding that scarlett is in top form at the moment and is incredibly fearsome
and snute, while inconsistent, has beaten "top 4 of gsl/ssl" players many times throughout his history
uthermal and showtime have shown what kind of level they are on.. which is a similar level to these other players listed
realistically, top foreigners don't actually get a chance to play the gsl/ssl koreans in a tournament environment very often... doesn't mean they can't beat them though
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On September 11 2016 04:02 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:01 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2016 03:59 Diabolique wrote:On September 11 2016 03:55 Noonius wrote:On September 11 2016 03:48 travis wrote:On September 11 2016 03:46 Isualin wrote:On September 11 2016 03:43 Binomyo wrote:
I don't understand why this tournament is elligible to WCS points. Normally there's a relative balance between america, europe and rest of the world in WCS tournament. This one is totally for AM region. The format is more than bizarre. Moreover, this tournament is the last chance to win a place at blizzcon.
This could have been the epic last fight to get to olympia, this is just a 2nd zone tournament with lot of easy money for Showtime.
I'm watching it only because there's no SC2 to watch today beside this one. I think this topic has been discussed to death. No one is arguing these players are code s level. Blizzcon is not the tournament where best players duke it out. All players will represent their countries/regions there. these players may not be korean (except hydra) but they still are some of the best in the world.. any of these players, except maybe 1 or 2 of them, are capable of giving great bo5/bo7 or even winning it vs the absolute top koreans no more magic shrooms for you. there are about 2 players who you can count on to take a map or maybe two off of the very top koreans, another 2-3 who can do it when they are on their very best. But honestly I don't see any of them winning a BO5/BO7 in a GSL/SSL setting where games matters the most and koreans have been specifically practicing for that player. This Noonius guy seems to be quite reasonable (except of the hate of Maru) :-) in fact, the times when Snute and Scarlett were invited to SSL they "randomly" drew the hardest possible opponents and got destroyed. Also they invited MacSed and gave him Rain.
And Jim who got Maru :D
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I am laughing so hard at those cut to smix screaming spanish
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The production of this thing has this kinda... latin american vibe
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On September 11 2016 04:04 Nakajin wrote:
I am laughing so hard at those cut to smix screaming spanish
Yeah it's actually pretty great lmao
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On September 11 2016 04:05 Noonius wrote:
CHEER FOR TERRAN
Race aside, I can't imagine not cheering for Scarlett, sorry
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Elentos
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On September 11 2016 04:03 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 03:58 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2016 03:56 travis wrote:On September 11 2016 03:49 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2016 03:48 travis wrote:On September 11 2016 03:46 Isualin wrote:On September 11 2016 03:43 Binomyo wrote:
I don't understand why this tournament is elligible to WCS points. Normally there's a relative balance between america, europe and rest of the world in WCS tournament. This one is totally for AM region. The format is more than bizarre. Moreover, this tournament is the last chance to win a place at blizzcon.
This could have been the epic last fight to get to olympia, this is just a 2nd zone tournament with lot of easy money for Showtime.
I'm watching it only because there's no SC2 to watch today beside this one. I think this topic has been discussed to death. No one is arguing these players are code s level. Blizzcon is not the tournament where best players duke it out. All players will represent their countries/regions there. these players may not be korean (except hydra) but they still are some of the best in the world.. any of these players, except maybe 1 or 2 of them, are capable of giving great bo5/bo7 or even winning it vs the absolute top koreans okay, let's not get ahead of ourselves... have snute scarlett showtime neeb and uthermal not all shown that they are capable of beating the best in the world? Out of these maybe Neeb could compete with top 4 of GSL/SSL in a non-mirror. it's my understanding that scarlett is in top form at the moment and is incredibly fearsome and snute, while inconsistent, has beaten "top 4 of gsl/ssl" players many times throughout his history uthermal and showtime have shown what kind of level they are on.. which is a similar level to these other players listed realistically, top foreigners don't actually get a chance to play the gsl/ssl koreans in a tournament environment very often... doesn't mean they can't beat them though
The thing is, uThermal for example would probably agree that he'd never beat a top Korean Terran or Protoss, but maybe a Zerg. That might be a bit too one-dimensional.
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le tod looks different today
I got my terran fix today at GSL so i am cheering for scarlett
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On September 11 2016 04:06 Isualin wrote:
le tod looks different today
almost like an animal
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No Scarlett vid was kind of weird... oh well she'll move on and we'll get an interview then
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On September 11 2016 04:06 opisska wrote:Race aside, I can't imagine not cheering for Scarlett, sorry
I will. Just imagine her not getting past iaguz after all her complaining about seeding. This is what dreams are made of
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Elentos
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On September 11 2016 04:03 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:02 Elentos wrote:On September 11 2016 04:01 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2016 03:59 Diabolique wrote:On September 11 2016 03:55 Noonius wrote:On September 11 2016 03:48 travis wrote:On September 11 2016 03:46 Isualin wrote:On September 11 2016 03:43 Binomyo wrote:
I don't understand why this tournament is elligible to WCS points. Normally there's a relative balance between america, europe and rest of the world in WCS tournament. This one is totally for AM region. The format is more than bizarre. Moreover, this tournament is the last chance to win a place at blizzcon.
This could have been the epic last fight to get to olympia, this is just a 2nd zone tournament with lot of easy money for Showtime.
I'm watching it only because there's no SC2 to watch today beside this one. I think this topic has been discussed to death. No one is arguing these players are code s level. Blizzcon is not the tournament where best players duke it out. All players will represent their countries/regions there. these players may not be korean (except hydra) but they still are some of the best in the world.. any of these players, except maybe 1 or 2 of them, are capable of giving great bo5/bo7 or even winning it vs the absolute top koreans no more magic shrooms for you. there are about 2 players who you can count on to take a map or maybe two off of the very top koreans, another 2-3 who can do it when they are on their very best. But honestly I don't see any of them winning a BO5/BO7 in a GSL/SSL setting where games matters the most and koreans have been specifically practicing for that player. This Noonius guy seems to be quite reasonable (except of the hate of Maru) :-) in fact, the times when Snute and Scarlett were invited to SSL they "randomly" drew the hardest possible opponents and got destroyed. Also they invited MacSed and gave him Rain. And Jim who got Maru :D
Looking back at SSL, they "randomly" and "totally not on purpose" had these foreigner vs Korean matchups:
Jim vs Maru
Scarlett vs TY
MacSed vs PartinG
INnoVation vs Snute
Rain vs Toodming (got that one wrong, but he forfeited because of the MERS outbreak in Korea at the time)
But hey, at least Jim won a map.
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iaguz already playing the mind games. How herO of him
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On September 11 2016 04:08 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:06 opisska wrote:On September 11 2016 04:05 Noonius wrote:
CHEER FOR TERRAN Race aside, I can't imagine not cheering for Scarlett, sorry I will. Just imagine her not getting past iaguz after all her complaining about seeding. This is what dreams are made of
That would kinda prove her point, wouldn't it  Anyway, she is just too cool not to like, I'm sorry
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don't let uThermal be the only terran hope
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On September 11 2016 04:09 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:03 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2016 04:02 Elentos wrote:On September 11 2016 04:01 Ej_ wrote:On September 11 2016 03:59 Diabolique wrote:On September 11 2016 03:55 Noonius wrote:On September 11 2016 03:48 travis wrote:On September 11 2016 03:46 Isualin wrote:On September 11 2016 03:43 Binomyo wrote:
I don't understand why this tournament is elligible to WCS points. Normally there's a relative balance between america, europe and rest of the world in WCS tournament. This one is totally for AM region. The format is more than bizarre. Moreover, this tournament is the last chance to win a place at blizzcon.
This could have been the epic last fight to get to olympia, this is just a 2nd zone tournament with lot of easy money for Showtime.
I'm watching it only because there's no SC2 to watch today beside this one. I think this topic has been discussed to death. No one is arguing these players are code s level. Blizzcon is not the tournament where best players duke it out. All players will represent their countries/regions there. these players may not be korean (except hydra) but they still are some of the best in the world.. any of these players, except maybe 1 or 2 of them, are capable of giving great bo5/bo7 or even winning it vs the absolute top koreans no more magic shrooms for you. there are about 2 players who you can count on to take a map or maybe two off of the very top koreans, another 2-3 who can do it when they are on their very best. But honestly I don't see any of them winning a BO5/BO7 in a GSL/SSL setting where games matters the most and koreans have been specifically practicing for that player. This Noonius guy seems to be quite reasonable (except of the hate of Maru) :-) in fact, the times when Snute and Scarlett were invited to SSL they "randomly" drew the hardest possible opponents and got destroyed. Also they invited MacSed and gave him Rain. And Jim who got Maru :D Looking back at SSL, they "randomly" and "totally not on purpose" had these foreigner vs Korean matchups: Jim vs Maru Scarlett vs TY MacSed vs PartinG INnoVation vs Snute Rain vs Toodming (got that one wrong, but he forfeited because of the MERS outbreak in Korea at the time) But hey, at least Jim won a map.
Scarlett also won a map, defending a 2rax
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Elentos
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On September 11 2016 04:09 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 04:08 Noonius wrote:On September 11 2016 04:06 opisska wrote:On September 11 2016 04:05 Noonius wrote:
CHEER FOR TERRAN Race aside, I can't imagine not cheering for Scarlett, sorry I will. Just imagine her not getting past iaguz after all her complaining about seeding. This is what dreams are made of That would kinda prove her point, wouldn't it Anyway, she is just too cool not to like, I'm sorry
Well, she complained that she should have gotten a higher seed because she did better in the qualifiers. With her lower seed she has to play an extra match, buuuut the player she plays against should be weaker. So really she was asking to get a harder opponent for her first match.
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