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On August 14 2016 08:05 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 08:04 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 08:03 Cricketer12 wrote:On August 14 2016 08:02 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 08:01 TheDougler wrote:On August 14 2016 07:59 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:58 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 Ej_ wrote:On August 14 2016 07:56 Penev wrote:
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Ej_ i nominate penev then i do post shit Elentos Shellshock GumBa Ej_ penev Cricketer12 Anyone else to nominate? Hm.. Noonius? Honestly? Nerchio's LR game has been pretty strong. Credit where credit is due. Elentos Shellshock GumBa Ej_ penev Cricketer12 Nerchio Noonius IntoTheheart Current nominations. die4ever contributes way too much for me to want to nominate him, so I guess it's The_Templar's turn? temp has no passion It's not about passion, it's about shitposting. He was #1 shitposter in the 2014 thread. He even trolled San on page 1000, that shit was uncalled for
Yeah, so like.. .he's got every reason to be here.
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On August 14 2016 08:02 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 08:01 TheDougler wrote:On August 14 2016 07:59 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:58 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 Ej_ wrote:On August 14 2016 07:56 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
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Elentos
Shellshock
GumBa
are our current nominations! I don't think Elentos shit posts tbh Do you have any other suggestions/nominations though? Ej_ i nominate penev then i do post shit Elentos Shellshock GumBa Ej_ penev Cricketer12 Anyone else to nominate? Hm.. Noonius? Honestly? Nerchio's LR game has been pretty strong. Credit where credit is due. Elentos Shellshock GumBa Ej_ penev Cricketer12 Nerchio Noonius IntoTheheart Current nominations. die4ever contributes way too much for me to want to nominate him, so I guess it's The_Templar's turn?
I feel like I'd be one of those guys who somehow gets onto the powerrank since SOMEBODY'S gotta be the worst of the the bunch, and I'd get a sentence or two, keeners would be like "oh yeah Dougler is a person" most would be like nope, never heard of him. And then they'd move on to the next person, but meanwhile I'd be beaming and be like buddies check it! I made the TLLR Power Rank! And they'd be like "what's this?!" And I'd be like "ONLY THE MOST EPIC SHITPOSTING POWER RANK RELATED TO SC2" and they'd be like "oh... I guess that's a thing". And just like that my life would have meaning.
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On August 14 2016 08:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 08:00 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:51 sabas123 wrote:On August 14 2016 07:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:41 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:40 Ej_ wrote:On August 14 2016 07:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
But what I originally wanted to say is that I think that pretty much any Korean is going to win over foreigners and be the favourite in the current system. They are peak players. Very few highly skilled players cannot create a good environment for foreigners to improve . That's also wrong. Koreans outside Korea are nothing more than people who chase the easier competition. Yes. And one peak player among one hundred weaker players will win most of the time, but the 100 other players will not be able to improve. If there would be like 25 koreans on 100 foreigners, foreigners would improve in the long run. That's simply not true. You don't need these way better players dropped into your scene to improve it. A scene has to start somewhere and if there are enough players in that scene willing to compete and motivated to get better than the whole scene will get better in the long run. Korea got to where it's at right now because some guys started it, not because some aliens dropped there training them. You will always have better and worse players in a scene and as long as the worse players are motivated to catch up the whole scene will get better. Koreans are the fastest at improving, but catching up is definitely a lot easier when somebody can show you how to play. You don't let phelps swim vs 6 year old children and expect from them to be motivated to beat him. You let them compete vs each other where the competition is actually fair. Yes i compared foreigners to 6 year olds Phelps is never going to come here. He still wins against the best, he doesn't need to go to the 6-year-olds pool. This is an argument FOR region locking btw, i am on your side  I'm against any form of region locking. I dislike how this community is mad for letting Blizzard change the 92% lock to a 96% lock and is now shitting on foreigners because of that meaningless change, when it was the same community that pushed to get us to the 92% lock in the first place. OH, lol. I think if we want foreign esports to be a thing region locking has to be part of it because the skill gaps are simply too big to overcome without it. As far as i can tell people dislike the current system because there are no weekend tournaments with koreans anymore.
My problem is more that we only have 4 seasons of Korean Leagues anymore, and that was the most important and interesting SC2 content
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On August 14 2016 08:04 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 08:02 Kerence wrote:On August 14 2016 08:00 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:51 sabas123 wrote:On August 14 2016 07:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:41 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:40 Ej_ wrote:
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That's also wrong. Koreans outside Korea are nothing more than people who chase the easier competition. Yes. And one peak player among one hundred weaker players will win most of the time, but the 100 other players will not be able to improve. If there would be like 25 koreans on 100 foreigners, foreigners would improve in the long run. That's simply not true. You don't need these way better players dropped into your scene to improve it. A scene has to start somewhere and if there are enough players in that scene willing to compete and motivated to get better than the whole scene will get better in the long run. Korea got to where it's at right now because some guys started it, not because some aliens dropped there training them. You will always have better and worse players in a scene and as long as the worse players are motivated to catch up the whole scene will get better. Koreans are the fastest at improving, but catching up is definitely a lot easier when somebody can show you how to play. You don't let phelps swim vs 6 year old children and expect from them to be motivated to beat him. You let them compete vs each other where the competition is actually fair. Yes i compared foreigners to 6 year olds Phelps is never going to come here. He still wins against the best, he doesn't need to go to the 6-year-olds pool. This is an argument FOR region locking btw, i am on your side I'm against any form of region locking. I dislike how this community is mad for letting Blizzard change the 92% lock to a 96% lock and is now shitting on foreigners because of that meaningless change, when it was the same community that pushed to get us to the 92% lock in the first place. Why would it be the same people who pushed for region lock that are now complaining about it? They aren't. People aren't pushing for a return to 2013, they're pushing for a return to 2015, which is senseless. There is no rational reason to be mad at 2016 if you were fine with 2015.
2014 was better then 2013 for me. Maybe 2014 with GSL and SSL would be the best. But that will not happen anymore.
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On August 14 2016 08:04 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 08:02 Kerence wrote:On August 14 2016 08:00 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:51 sabas123 wrote:On August 14 2016 07:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:41 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 14 2016 07:40 Ej_ wrote:
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That's also wrong. Koreans outside Korea are nothing more than people who chase the easier competition. Yes. And one peak player among one hundred weaker players will win most of the time, but the 100 other players will not be able to improve. If there would be like 25 koreans on 100 foreigners, foreigners would improve in the long run. That's simply not true. You don't need these way better players dropped into your scene to improve it. A scene has to start somewhere and if there are enough players in that scene willing to compete and motivated to get better than the whole scene will get better in the long run. Korea got to where it's at right now because some guys started it, not because some aliens dropped there training them. You will always have better and worse players in a scene and as long as the worse players are motivated to catch up the whole scene will get better. Koreans are the fastest at improving, but catching up is definitely a lot easier when somebody can show you how to play. You don't let phelps swim vs 6 year old children and expect from them to be motivated to beat him. You let them compete vs each other where the competition is actually fair. Yes i compared foreigners to 6 year olds Phelps is never going to come here. He still wins against the best, he doesn't need to go to the 6-year-olds pool. This is an argument FOR region locking btw, i am on your side I'm against any form of region locking. I dislike how this community is mad for letting Blizzard change the 92% lock to a 96% lock and is now shitting on foreigners because of that meaningless change, when it was the same community that pushed to get us to the 92% lock in the first place. Why would it be the same people who pushed for region lock that are now complaining about it? They aren't. People aren't pushing for a return to 2013, they're pushing for a return to 2015, which is senseless. There is no rational reason to be mad at 2016 if you were fine with 2015.
In 2015 Koreans were still allowed at weekenders though, they're not the same.
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BOOOOOO GO HOME PROTOSS SCUM
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On August 14 2016 08:05 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 08:02 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 08:01 TheDougler wrote:On August 14 2016 07:59 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:58 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 Ej_ wrote:On August 14 2016 07:56 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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I don't think Elentos shit posts tbh Do you have any other suggestions/nominations though? Ej_ i nominate penev then i do post shit Elentos Shellshock GumBa Ej_ penev Cricketer12 Anyone else to nominate? Hm.. Noonius? Honestly? Nerchio's LR game has been pretty strong. Credit where credit is due. Elentos Shellshock GumBa Ej_ penev Cricketer12 Nerchio Noonius IntoTheheart Current nominations. die4ever contributes way too much for me to want to nominate him, so I guess it's The_Templar's turn? Hmm, are there actually people in these threads that don't post poop?
I know right? Anyone who watches enough Starcraft to fill more than 3 rows/columns/diagonals in the following bingo sheet is a shitposter in my books.
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This whole series is going to be decided by game 2. If polt crushes that game Drogo is done but if Drogo wins at all I think he'll hold on regardless of game 1 result
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On August 14 2016 08:05 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 08:02 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 08:01 TheDougler wrote:On August 14 2016 07:59 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:58 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 Ej_ wrote:On August 14 2016 07:56 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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I don't think Elentos shit posts tbh Do you have any other suggestions/nominations though? Ej_ i nominate penev then i do post shit Elentos Shellshock GumBa Ej_ penev Cricketer12 Anyone else to nominate? Hm.. Noonius? Honestly? Nerchio's LR game has been pretty strong. Credit where credit is due. Elentos Shellshock GumBa Ej_ penev Cricketer12 Nerchio Noonius IntoTheheart Current nominations. die4ever contributes way too much for me to want to nominate him, so I guess it's The_Templar's turn? Hmm, are there actually people in these threads that don't post poop?
if elentos posts poop, everyone posts poop
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Would people from Quebec support frenchies?
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as always in that kind of match ,the first game will be close then the rest will be a walk over
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On August 14 2016 08:06 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 08:04 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 08:02 Kerence wrote:On August 14 2016 08:00 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:51 sabas123 wrote:On August 14 2016 07:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
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Yes. And one peak player among one hundred weaker players will win most of the time, but the 100 other players will not be able to improve.
If there would be like 25 koreans on 100 foreigners, foreigners would improve in the long run. That's simply not true. You don't need these way better players dropped into your scene to improve it. A scene has to start somewhere and if there are enough players in that scene willing to compete and motivated to get better than the whole scene will get better in the long run. Korea got to where it's at right now because some guys started it, not because some aliens dropped there training them. You will always have better and worse players in a scene and as long as the worse players are motivated to catch up the whole scene will get better. Koreans are the fastest at improving, but catching up is definitely a lot easier when somebody can show you how to play. You don't let phelps swim vs 6 year old children and expect from them to be motivated to beat him. You let them compete vs each other where the competition is actually fair. Yes i compared foreigners to 6 year olds Phelps is never going to come here. He still wins against the best, he doesn't need to go to the 6-year-olds pool. This is an argument FOR region locking btw, i am on your side I'm against any form of region locking. I dislike how this community is mad for letting Blizzard change the 92% lock to a 96% lock and is now shitting on foreigners because of that meaningless change, when it was the same community that pushed to get us to the 92% lock in the first place. Why would it be the same people who pushed for region lock that are now complaining about it? They aren't. People aren't pushing for a return to 2013, they're pushing for a return to 2015, which is senseless. There is no rational reason to be mad at 2016 if you were fine with 2015. In 2015 Koreans were still allowed at weekenders though, they're not the same.
So we could use this community's wonderful voice to pressure the organizers into having more global events. Your problem is solved.
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On August 14 2016 08:07 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Would people from Quebec support frenchies?
Most wouldn't.
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On August 14 2016 08:06 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 08:05 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 08:02 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 08:01 TheDougler wrote:On August 14 2016 07:59 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:58 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 Ej_ wrote:On August 14 2016 07:56 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
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Do you have any other suggestions/nominations though? Ej_ i nominate penev then i do post shit Elentos Shellshock GumBa Ej_ penev Cricketer12 Anyone else to nominate? Hm.. Noonius? Honestly? Nerchio's LR game has been pretty strong. Credit where credit is due. Elentos Shellshock GumBa Ej_ penev Cricketer12 Nerchio Noonius IntoTheheart Current nominations. die4ever contributes way too much for me to want to nominate him, so I guess it's The_Templar's turn? Hmm, are there actually people in these threads that don't post poop? if elentos posts poop, everyone posts poop
You guys are so nice to me
Not sure if love or conspiracy
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On August 14 2016 08:05 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 08:02 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 08:01 TheDougler wrote:On August 14 2016 07:59 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:58 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 Ej_ wrote:On August 14 2016 07:56 Penev wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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I don't think Elentos shit posts tbh Do you have any other suggestions/nominations though? Ej_ i nominate penev then i do post shit Elentos Shellshock GumBa Ej_ penev Cricketer12 Anyone else to nominate? Hm.. Noonius? Honestly? Nerchio's LR game has been pretty strong. Credit where credit is due. Elentos Shellshock GumBa Ej_ penev Cricketer12 Nerchio Noonius IntoTheheart Current nominations. die4ever contributes way too much for me to want to nominate him, so I guess it's The_Templar's turn? I feel like I'd be one of those guys who somehow gets onto the powerrank since SOMEBODY'S gotta be the worst of the the bunch, and I'd get a sentence or two, keeners would be like "oh yeah Dougler is a person" most would be like nope, never heard of him. And then they'd move on to the next person, but meanwhile I'd be beaming and be like buddies check it! I made the TLLR Power Rank! And they'd be like "what's this?!" And I'd be like "ONLY THE MOST EPIC SHITPOSTING POWER RANK RELATED TO SC2" and they'd be like "oh... I guess that's a thing". And just like that my life would have meaning.
Sure. I'm also game to add on SetGuitarsToKill.
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There was a time where a guy was literally posting poop in LRs and I had to ban him a bunch of times and close the report threads which meant i had to scroll to the bottom of the poop posts every time so you guys don't even know.
I like Drogo to take this first map being NG
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On August 14 2016 08:07 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 08:06 Elentos wrote:On August 14 2016 08:04 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 08:02 Kerence wrote:On August 14 2016 08:00 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:51 sabas123 wrote:On August 14 2016 07:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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That's simply not true. You don't need these way better players dropped into your scene to improve it. A scene has to start somewhere and if there are enough players in that scene willing to compete and motivated to get better than the whole scene will get better in the long run.
Korea got to where it's at right now because some guys started it, not because some aliens dropped there training them.
You will always have better and worse players in a scene and as long as the worse players are motivated to catch up the whole scene will get better. Koreans are the fastest at improving, but catching up is definitely a lot easier when somebody can show you how to play. You don't let phelps swim vs 6 year old children and expect from them to be motivated to beat him. You let them compete vs each other where the competition is actually fair. Yes i compared foreigners to 6 year olds Phelps is never going to come here. He still wins against the best, he doesn't need to go to the 6-year-olds pool. This is an argument FOR region locking btw, i am on your side I'm against any form of region locking. I dislike how this community is mad for letting Blizzard change the 92% lock to a 96% lock and is now shitting on foreigners because of that meaningless change, when it was the same community that pushed to get us to the 92% lock in the first place. Why would it be the same people who pushed for region lock that are now complaining about it? They aren't. People aren't pushing for a return to 2013, they're pushing for a return to 2015, which is senseless. There is no rational reason to be mad at 2016 if you were fine with 2015. In 2015 Koreans were still allowed at weekenders though, they're not the same. So we could use this community's wonderful voice to pressure the organizers into having more global events. Your problem is solved.
Community voice is not heart at all. See TL economy model efforts during LotV beta that were completely discarded.
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On August 14 2016 08:07 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2016 08:06 Elentos wrote:On August 14 2016 08:04 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 08:02 Kerence wrote:On August 14 2016 08:00 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:55 Nebuchad wrote:On August 14 2016 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 14 2016 07:51 sabas123 wrote:On August 14 2016 07:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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That's simply not true. You don't need these way better players dropped into your scene to improve it. A scene has to start somewhere and if there are enough players in that scene willing to compete and motivated to get better than the whole scene will get better in the long run.
Korea got to where it's at right now because some guys started it, not because some aliens dropped there training them.
You will always have better and worse players in a scene and as long as the worse players are motivated to catch up the whole scene will get better. Koreans are the fastest at improving, but catching up is definitely a lot easier when somebody can show you how to play. You don't let phelps swim vs 6 year old children and expect from them to be motivated to beat him. You let them compete vs each other where the competition is actually fair. Yes i compared foreigners to 6 year olds Phelps is never going to come here. He still wins against the best, he doesn't need to go to the 6-year-olds pool. This is an argument FOR region locking btw, i am on your side I'm against any form of region locking. I dislike how this community is mad for letting Blizzard change the 92% lock to a 96% lock and is now shitting on foreigners because of that meaningless change, when it was the same community that pushed to get us to the 92% lock in the first place. Why would it be the same people who pushed for region lock that are now complaining about it? They aren't. People aren't pushing for a return to 2013, they're pushing for a return to 2015, which is senseless. There is no rational reason to be mad at 2016 if you were fine with 2015. In 2015 Koreans were still allowed at weekenders though, they're not the same. So we could use this community's wonderful voice to pressure the organizers into having more global events. Your problem is solved.
We could convince them to have more small invitationals. But not global WCS events. Those are too expensive.
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