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On July 15 2016 06:54 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 06:52 PinoKotsBeer wrote:On July 15 2016 06:49 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. I mean Polt had enough and sent them over an army of blink stalkers That could be controlled better, and we see the result when libs die  Yeah that kinda ruins pvt atm, but not as much as old colossus did
True, i think the lib without the extra range is already hard enough, with the range and there is no ground answer to it unless you commit mass hydra/stalkers to it. Thats silly imho. Hope Blizzard removes the extra range eventually.
On July 15 2016 07:00 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. Replace x (race) and y (unit) and you have the same argument.. Come on man, Polt had his libs massacred due to miscontrol. If any race runs there damage dealers into their deaths it's usally gg, it's not Terran specific.
Not really the same argument but okay and there were more terrans than just Polt.
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atleast 1 zerg per match tomorrow =O
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On July 15 2016 07:12 PinoKotsBeer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 06:54 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:52 PinoKotsBeer wrote:On July 15 2016 06:49 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. I mean Polt had enough and sent them over an army of blink stalkers That could be controlled better, and we see the result when libs die Yeah that kinda ruins pvt atm, but not as much as old colossus did True, i think the lib without the extra range is already hard enough, with the range and there is no ground answer to it unless you commit mass hydra/stalkers to it. Thats silly imho. Hope Blizzard removes the extra range eventually. Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 07:00 FataLe wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. Replace x (race) and y (unit) and you have the same argument.. Come on man, Polt had his libs massacred due to miscontrol. If any race runs there damage dealers into their deaths it's usally gg, it's not Terran specific. Not really the same argument but okay and there were more terrans than just Polt.
Not the same argument? Tell me in a late game scenario if the protoss runs all his disruptors into the terran it's not gg.
Tell me if the Zerg runs his lurkers into protoss blink stalkers it's not gg.
At that stage of the game, if you lose your damage dealers, and the opponent still has theirs, then it SHOULD be gg.
I have no idea what you're trying to say..
Also, bear in mind the Terrans at this tourny aren't exactly AAA atm. Blame that on the weak foreign scene right now.
But by all means man, close your eyes and whinge if it's easier..
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i'd say the terran representation in this tournament is lacking, i dont think you can make balance statements based on these games.
lets be honest too, showtime outplayed polt overall g1-4 and stupidly lost 3 and 4. he just looks to be in better shape right now, overall
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On July 15 2016 07:58 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 07:12 PinoKotsBeer wrote:On July 15 2016 06:54 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:52 PinoKotsBeer wrote:On July 15 2016 06:49 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. I mean Polt had enough and sent them over an army of blink stalkers That could be controlled better, and we see the result when libs die Yeah that kinda ruins pvt atm, but not as much as old colossus did True, i think the lib without the extra range is already hard enough, with the range and there is no ground answer to it unless you commit mass hydra/stalkers to it. Thats silly imho. Hope Blizzard removes the extra range eventually. On July 15 2016 07:00 FataLe wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. Replace x (race) and y (unit) and you have the same argument.. Come on man, Polt had his libs massacred due to miscontrol. If any race runs there damage dealers into their deaths it's usally gg, it's not Terran specific. Not really the same argument but okay and there were more terrans than just Polt. Not the same argument? Tell me in a late game scenario if the protoss runs all his disruptors into the terran it's not gg. Tell me if the Zerg runs his lurkers into protoss blink stalkers it's not gg. At that stage of the game, if you lose your damage dealers, and the opponent still has theirs, then it SHOULD be gg. I have no idea what you're trying to say.. Also, bear in mind the Terrans at this tourny aren't exactly AAA atm. Blame that on the weak foreign scene right now. But by all means man, close your eyes and whinge if it's easier..
Its not about the damage dealers, its the lack of choice of it. Maybe its more clear for you now. Also, i only said i wish to see more terrans advance, thats all, nothing more nothing less. So, relax, the "imbalance/OP" card has not be drawn etc. no panic buddy, calm down. Breath in breath out.
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On July 15 2016 07:58 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 07:12 PinoKotsBeer wrote:On July 15 2016 06:54 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:52 PinoKotsBeer wrote:On July 15 2016 06:49 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. I mean Polt had enough and sent them over an army of blink stalkers That could be controlled better, and we see the result when libs die Yeah that kinda ruins pvt atm, but not as much as old colossus did True, i think the lib without the extra range is already hard enough, with the range and there is no ground answer to it unless you commit mass hydra/stalkers to it. Thats silly imho. Hope Blizzard removes the extra range eventually. On July 15 2016 07:00 FataLe wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. Replace x (race) and y (unit) and you have the same argument.. Come on man, Polt had his libs massacred due to miscontrol. If any race runs there damage dealers into their deaths it's usally gg, it's not Terran specific. Not really the same argument but okay and there were more terrans than just Polt. Not the same argument? Tell me in a late game scenario if the protoss runs all his disruptors into the terran it's not gg. Tell me if the Zerg runs his lurkers into protoss blink stalkers it's not gg. At that stage of the game, if you lose your damage dealers, and the opponent still has theirs, then it SHOULD be gg. I have no idea what you're trying to say.. Also, bear in mind the Terrans at this tourny aren't exactly AAA atm. Blame that on the weak foreign scene right now. But by all means man, close your eyes and whinge if it's easier..
lurkers and disruptors don't have reactors, and late game economy is usually not a problem for terran because you don't need to consider saving energy for radar.
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On July 15 2016 08:10 nath wrote:
i'd say the terran representation in this tournament is lacking, i dont think you can make balance statements based on these games.
Which foreign top terrans are missing?
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On July 15 2016 09:08 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 08:10 nath wrote:
i'd say the terran representation in this tournament is lacking, i dont think you can make balance statements based on these games.
Which foreign top terrans are missing?
Masa, Time (just basing that off seeing scarlett say he is one of the best foreign terrans)
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Guess I'll have to watch that DreamHack given how all my frenchies are performing. Stephano reaching the top 16 of a tournament for the first time in 2 years is certainly something I want to witness.
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Wait, Stephano!? Didn't he retire?
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On July 15 2016 09:17 Boucot wrote:
Guess I'll have to watch that DreamHack given how all my frenchies are performing. Stephano reaching the top 16 of a tournament for the first time in 2 years is certainly something I want to witness.
We've been lacking of players such as Stephano so badly :/
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Did Stephano seriously 3-0 pucK (Half Neeb) after that win over uThermal?
Shit I still don't want to believe he can place well
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Tuning in for the first time in years - why is DH only single elimination bracket?
double elim was really exciting and more fair, why have they changed it?
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On July 15 2016 07:58 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 07:12 PinoKotsBeer wrote:On July 15 2016 06:54 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:52 PinoKotsBeer wrote:On July 15 2016 06:49 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. I mean Polt had enough and sent them over an army of blink stalkers That could be controlled better, and we see the result when libs die Yeah that kinda ruins pvt atm, but not as much as old colossus did True, i think the lib without the extra range is already hard enough, with the range and there is no ground answer to it unless you commit mass hydra/stalkers to it. Thats silly imho. Hope Blizzard removes the extra range eventually. On July 15 2016 07:00 FataLe wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. Replace x (race) and y (unit) and you have the same argument.. Come on man, Polt had his libs massacred due to miscontrol. If any race runs there damage dealers into their deaths it's usally gg, it's not Terran specific. Not really the same argument but okay and there were more terrans than just Polt. Not the same argument? Tell me in a late game scenario if the protoss runs all his disruptors into the terran it's not gg. Tell me if the Zerg runs his lurkers into protoss blink stalkers it's not gg. At that stage of the game, if you lose your damage dealers, and the opponent still has theirs, then it SHOULD be gg. I have no idea what you're trying to say.. Also, bear in mind the Terrans at this tourny aren't exactly AAA atm. Blame that on the weak foreign scene right now. But by all means man, close your eyes and whinge if it's easier..
The whole argument "foreigner terrans are just not good" gets kind of old after some time.
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On July 15 2016 10:08 FvRGg wrote:
Tuning in for the first time in years - why is DH only single elimination bracket?
double elim was really exciting and more fair, why have they changed it?
Dreamhacks have always been single elimination. The only double elimination Dreamhacks as far as I can remember are the Dreamhack Winters where there isn't an open group stage.
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On July 15 2016 10:04 Poopi wrote:
Did Stephano seriously 3-0 pucK (Half Neeb) after that win over uThermal?
Shit I still don't want to believe he can place well
I thought exactly the same thing.
Reminds me of Michael Jordan unretiring to play for the Wizards at an advanced age and still being an amazing player.
On July 15 2016 08:27 PinoKotsBeer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 07:58 FataLe wrote:On July 15 2016 07:12 PinoKotsBeer wrote:On July 15 2016 06:54 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:52 PinoKotsBeer wrote:On July 15 2016 06:49 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. I mean Polt had enough and sent them over an army of blink stalkers That could be controlled better, and we see the result when libs die Yeah that kinda ruins pvt atm, but not as much as old colossus did True, i think the lib without the extra range is already hard enough, with the range and there is no ground answer to it unless you commit mass hydra/stalkers to it. Thats silly imho. Hope Blizzard removes the extra range eventually. On July 15 2016 07:00 FataLe wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. Replace x (race) and y (unit) and you have the same argument.. Come on man, Polt had his libs massacred due to miscontrol. If any race runs there damage dealers into their deaths it's usally gg, it's not Terran specific. Not really the same argument but okay and there were more terrans than just Polt. Not the same argument? Tell me in a late game scenario if the protoss runs all his disruptors into the terran it's not gg. Tell me if the Zerg runs his lurkers into protoss blink stalkers it's not gg. At that stage of the game, if you lose your damage dealers, and the opponent still has theirs, then it SHOULD be gg. I have no idea what you're trying to say.. Also, bear in mind the Terrans at this tourny aren't exactly AAA atm. Blame that on the weak foreign scene right now. But by all means man, close your eyes and whinge if it's easier.. Its not about the damage dealers, its the lack of choice of it.
Yeah playing and watching Terran is gonna to get really old really fast if all they can do is build Liberators.
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Stephano playing well again is pretty cool. I really enjoyed his style in PvZ.
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On July 15 2016 10:09 Lexender wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 15 2016 07:58 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 07:12 PinoKotsBeer wrote:On July 15 2016 06:54 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:52 PinoKotsBeer wrote:On July 15 2016 06:49 ArtyK wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. I mean Polt had enough and sent them over an army of blink stalkers That could be controlled better, and we see the result when libs die Yeah that kinda ruins pvt atm, but not as much as old colossus did True, i think the lib without the extra range is already hard enough, with the range and there is no ground answer to it unless you commit mass hydra/stalkers to it. Thats silly imho. Hope Blizzard removes the extra range eventually. On July 15 2016 07:00 FataLe wrote:On July 15 2016 06:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote:
Great matches today but im kinda sad about the number of terrans advancing. Shame that the race kinda sucks without enough liberators. Replace x (race) and y (unit) and you have the same argument.. Come on man, Polt had his libs massacred due to miscontrol. If any race runs there damage dealers into their deaths it's usally gg, it's not Terran specific. Not really the same argument but okay and there were more terrans than just Polt. Not the same argument? Tell me in a late game scenario if the protoss runs all his disruptors into the terran it's not gg. Tell me if the Zerg runs his lurkers into protoss blink stalkers it's not gg. At that stage of the game, if you lose your damage dealers, and the opponent still has theirs, then it SHOULD be gg. I have no idea what you're trying to say.. Also, bear in mind the Terrans at this tourny aren't exactly AAA atm. Blame that on the weak foreign scene right now. But by all means man, close your eyes and whinge if it's easier.. The whole argument "foreigner terrans are just not good" gets kind of old after some time.
Sc2 is balanced around korean pros who can make certein units/builds work. If you dont use the multitasking/timing attacks, the balance gets weird. LotV is not build to mass army and then go.
If you watch carefully, all the games are full of small and big mistakes. Foreigner tournaments should just be watched and dont used to apply ANY kind of balance discussion. Cause that stuff gets really old.
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Watched the vods this morning, man it's cool to see Stephano play this well again.
While I would like to see terran do well, I'm cheering hard for Stephano vs Marinelord!
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