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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
June 02 2016 10:42 GMT
#701
On June 02 2016 19:39 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2016 19:38 fealx wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:36 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:24 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Can't wait for LBM viable again, ZvT looks like a shithole in korea atm.

soO's games were awful, i wouldn't use them to measure the ZvT meta


Not just soO's games, ZvT has been below 40% for around 2 months now in Korea.
Only Dark somewhat plays well in ZvT.


and then you look at the foreign scene where ZvT feels like 80% winrate for Z

yeah i agree foreign terrans are terrible

That moment era when difference in skill completely skew winrates
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
June 02 2016 10:43 GMT
#702
So the remaining games are

Hush vs Bomber
soO vs Hush
TY vs Trap
Trap vs soO
soO vs TY
TY vs Cure
soO vs Bomber
Trap vs Hush

Bomber should bring this home easily.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
June 02 2016 10:44 GMT
#703
what if soo and bomber are 1:1 vs each other and 5:5 i think that will happen with soo losing to TY but winning the rest
TY my boy gogo
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
June 02 2016 10:44 GMT
#704
On June 02 2016 19:43 Elentos wrote:
So the remaining games are

Hush vs Bomber
soO vs Hush
TY vs Trap
Trap vs soO
soO vs TY
TY vs Cure
soO vs Bomber
Trap vs Hush

Bomber should bring this home easily.

Unless soOjwa shows up instead of the soO we've had so far
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
June 02 2016 10:44 GMT
#705
On June 02 2016 19:37 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2016 19:35 swissman777 wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:33 Elentos wrote:
So TY has a bit of trouble with Bomber but shreks Cure, Cure has no trouble with Bomber but is completely hopeless vs TY.

Cure's aggressiveness vs TY's safe builds. TY's safe builds vs bomber's greedy economic builds. Cure's agressiveness vs Bomber's greedy economic builds. Kind of makes sense.

You'd think that'd be it, but then, TY took a very early 3rd on the low ground against Bomber off of 1 rax and Bomber opened 2-rax reaper against Cure.

Yes, but bomber took earlier nat and bomber was focusing more on workers. And if's it's the first Bomber vs Cure game you're talking about, cure went banshees whilst bomber tried to economically get ahead while going for a fake aggression/ harass.
mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
June 02 2016 10:45 GMT
#706
On June 02 2016 19:40 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2016 19:38 fealx wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:36 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:24 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Can't wait for LBM viable again, ZvT looks like a shithole in korea atm.

soO's games were awful, i wouldn't use them to measure the ZvT meta


Not just soO's games, ZvT has been below 40% for around 2 months now in Korea.
Only Dark somewhat plays well in ZvT.


and then you look at the foreign scene where ZvT feels like 80% winrate for Z

korean terrans just infinitely superior


Funny, considering they won so little in HoTS.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
June 02 2016 10:45 GMT
#707
nice shirts
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51483 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-02 10:45:56
June 02 2016 10:45 GMT
#708
On June 02 2016 19:43 Elentos wrote:
So the remaining games are

Hush vs Bomber
soO vs Hush
TY vs Trap
Trap vs soO
soO vs TY
TY vs Cure
soO vs Bomber
Trap vs Hush

Bomber should bring this home easily.

I have it soO 4W 6L --- Then bomber will get 5W 5L, so yeah i agree :D
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
June 02 2016 10:46 GMT
#709
On June 02 2016 19:44 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2016 19:37 Elentos wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:35 swissman777 wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:33 Elentos wrote:
So TY has a bit of trouble with Bomber but shreks Cure, Cure has no trouble with Bomber but is completely hopeless vs TY.

Cure's aggressiveness vs TY's safe builds. TY's safe builds vs bomber's greedy economic builds. Cure's agressiveness vs Bomber's greedy economic builds. Kind of makes sense.

You'd think that'd be it, but then, TY took a very early 3rd on the low ground against Bomber off of 1 rax and Bomber opened 2-rax reaper against Cure.

Yes, but bomber took earlier nat and bomber was focusing more on workers. And if's it's the first Bomber vs Cure game you're talking about, cure went banshees whilst bomber tried to economically get ahead while going for a fake aggression/ harass.

It's not fake when you waste all your reapers for no damage.
On June 02 2016 19:44 zakadar wrote:
what if soo and bomber are 1:1 vs each other and 5:5 i think that will happen with soo losing to TY but winning the rest

Then the person with more away map wins advances. Which is probably not soO?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 02 2016 10:46 GMT
#710
what game did they say they weren't playing
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3372 Posts
June 02 2016 10:46 GMT
#711
...so TY vs Cure will not be played since they are both advancing... I don't really like this kind of stuff...
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
June 02 2016 10:47 GMT
#712
Kicking Prime while they're rotting in the grave.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 02 2016 10:47 GMT
#713
On June 02 2016 19:46 CynicalDeath wrote:
...so TY vs Cure will not be played since they are both advancing... I don't really like this kind of stuff...

to be fair there are 29 other maps being played so really its not a big deal
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
June 02 2016 10:47 GMT
#714
What did they say? That they do not finish all the games?
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3372 Posts
June 02 2016 10:48 GMT
#715
On June 02 2016 19:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2016 19:46 CynicalDeath wrote:
...so TY vs Cure will not be played since they are both advancing... I don't really like this kind of stuff...

to be fair there are 29 other maps being played so really its not a big deal

..yes I know, but I don't really like the concept of "since it is not useful, it will not be played" but probably it's just me!
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
June 02 2016 10:48 GMT
#716
On June 02 2016 19:47 Diabolique wrote:
What did they say? That they do not finish all the games?


Not playing games that won't have any bearing on who advances yeah.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 02 2016 10:49 GMT
#717
On June 02 2016 19:48 CynicalDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2016 19:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:46 CynicalDeath wrote:
...so TY vs Cure will not be played since they are both advancing... I don't really like this kind of stuff...

to be fair there are 29 other maps being played so really its not a big deal

..yes I know, but I don't really like the concept of "since it is not useful, it will not be played" but probably it's just me!

yeah but its honestly a waste of the players time especially because its been a long time, do you want a Naniwa vs Nestea repeat?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
June 02 2016 10:49 GMT
#718
On June 02 2016 19:46 CynicalDeath wrote:
...so TY vs Cure will not be played since they are both advancing... I don't really like this kind of stuff...

That's fine, it's more problematic if only one player is already advanced(/eliminated)
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
June 02 2016 10:49 GMT
#719
On June 02 2016 19:46 CynicalDeath wrote:
...so TY vs Cure will not be played since they are both advancing... I don't really like this kind of stuff...

This is stupid ... as Cure could end up first (don't think, this could happen :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
June 02 2016 10:49 GMT
#720
On June 02 2016 19:45 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2016 19:40 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:38 fealx wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:36 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 02 2016 19:24 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Can't wait for LBM viable again, ZvT looks like a shithole in korea atm.

soO's games were awful, i wouldn't use them to measure the ZvT meta


Not just soO's games, ZvT has been below 40% for around 2 months now in Korea.
Only Dark somewhat plays well in ZvT.


and then you look at the foreign scene where ZvT feels like 80% winrate for Z

korean terrans just infinitely superior


Funny, considering they won so little in HoTS.

That was more due to protoss than Zerg.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
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