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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 16 2016 11:53 GMT
#4401
you need marauders vs adepts all i can say

and medivacs
maru lover forever
ossavi09
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany441 Posts
May 16 2016 11:53 GMT
#4402
on this map showtime usually goes voidrays(sometimes mass carrier afterwards) or phoenix opening, both suck against fast burrowing widowmines, I think MaSa's build was quite good to counter that tbh
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 16 2016 11:53 GMT
#4403
On May 16 2016 20:52 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 20:51 opisska wrote:
The hell is a drilling claws rush?

That's when you rush out the upgrade that makes mines burrow faster. It's a build INnoVation came up with in late HotS. I think it's winrate in LotV pro games is 0% though.

Rule number 1 in TvP : Don't even try to bullshit against protoss first.Let they do it and you can do later.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 16 2016 11:53 GMT
#4404
On May 16 2016 20:52 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 20:51 opisska wrote:
The hell is a drilling claws rush?

That's when you rush out the upgrade that makes mines burrow faster. It's a build INnoVation came up with in late HotS. I think it's winrate in LotV pro games is 0% though.


Yes captain, I undrestand the meaning of words drilling claws and rush, however I don't really see the point in doing that. Like if that burrow time is so important ...
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
May 16 2016 11:53 GMT
#4405
On May 16 2016 20:53 ossavi09 wrote:
on this map showtime usually goes voidrays(sometimes mass carrier afterwards) or phoenix opening, both suck against fast burrowing widowmines, I think MaSa's build was quite good to counter that tbh

yeah my thoughts too

it's nice he has learnt not to be predictable anymore
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 16 2016 11:53 GMT
#4406
to be quite fair all the people i've rooted for this dreamhack are out right now, so i guess that i'm rooting for no one
maru lover forever
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16101 Posts
May 16 2016 11:54 GMT
#4407
On May 16 2016 20:49 raff1001 wrote:
Nerchio absolutely deserved it .
I think that ultras Armor is ok,polt didn't make any ghost and he lost.However I would like to have a mech counter for ultras ...bc would be amazing

everytime a terran loses to ultras some people say "he should have just made ghosts"
there is a reason nobody makes ghosts vs ultras anymore. they are bad.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 16 2016 11:54 GMT
#4408
On May 16 2016 20:53 Incognoto wrote:
you need marauders vs adepts all i can say

and medivacs


battlecruisers are also good
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
May 16 2016 11:54 GMT
#4409
In that polt vs elazer game, polt is behind the whole game, elazer gets his ultra with no trouble at all, and then Polt wins.


Elazer just played terrible throughout the whole series as well. Kept spewing units and taking bad engagements over and over. He comes out as someone with poor judgement.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 11:55:25
May 16 2016 11:55 GMT
#4410
On May 16 2016 20:53 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 20:52 Elentos wrote:
On May 16 2016 20:51 opisska wrote:
The hell is a drilling claws rush?

That's when you rush out the upgrade that makes mines burrow faster. It's a build INnoVation came up with in late HotS. I think it's winrate in LotV pro games is 0% though.


Yes captain, I undrestand the meaning of words drilling claws and rush, however I don't really see the point in doing that. Like if that burrow time is so important ...

It's for mine drops. Every good Protoss pulls probes and takes almost no damage. With drilling claws it's hard to do it in time.

It's pretty much cheese.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 16 2016 11:55 GMT
#4411
On May 16 2016 20:54 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 20:49 raff1001 wrote:
Nerchio absolutely deserved it .
I think that ultras Armor is ok,polt didn't make any ghost and he lost.However I would like to have a mech counter for ultras ...bc would be amazing

everytime a terran loses to ultras some people say "he should have just made ghosts"
there is a reason nobody makes ghosts vs ultras anymore. they are bad.

well not really bad vs ultras but they are fucking terrible vs cracklings
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 16 2016 11:55 GMT
#4412
On May 16 2016 20:55 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 20:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 16 2016 20:49 raff1001 wrote:
Nerchio absolutely deserved it .
I think that ultras Armor is ok,polt didn't make any ghost and he lost.However I would like to have a mech counter for ultras ...bc would be amazing

everytime a terran loses to ultras some people say "he should have just made ghosts"
there is a reason nobody makes ghosts vs ultras anymore. they are bad.

well not really bad vs ultras but they are fucking terrible vs cracklings

Also against fungals.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
May 16 2016 11:56 GMT
#4413
fast burrow mine builds are kind of the terran version of drop disruptor openings, except that you die before the upgrade finishes XD
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16101 Posts
May 16 2016 11:56 GMT
#4414
On May 16 2016 20:55 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 20:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 16 2016 20:49 raff1001 wrote:
Nerchio absolutely deserved it .
I think that ultras Armor is ok,polt didn't make any ghost and he lost.However I would like to have a mech counter for ultras ...bc would be amazing

everytime a terran loses to ultras some people say "he should have just made ghosts"
there is a reason nobody makes ghosts vs ultras anymore. they are bad.

well not really bad vs ultras but they are fucking terrible vs cracklings

and especially vs infestors
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 16 2016 11:56 GMT
#4415
On May 16 2016 20:55 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 20:55 Ej_ wrote:
On May 16 2016 20:54 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 16 2016 20:49 raff1001 wrote:
Nerchio absolutely deserved it .
I think that ultras Armor is ok,polt didn't make any ghost and he lost.However I would like to have a mech counter for ultras ...bc would be amazing

everytime a terran loses to ultras some people say "he should have just made ghosts"
there is a reason nobody makes ghosts vs ultras anymore. they are bad.

well not really bad vs ultras but they are fucking terrible vs cracklings

Also against fungals.

Sky terran has to be the answer.
maru lover forever
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 16 2016 11:57 GMT
#4416
lmao will Showtime just cheese MaSa out?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
May 16 2016 11:57 GMT
#4417
Showtime opening up the Great Book today
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
May 16 2016 11:57 GMT
#4418
ShoWTime becoming the actually good Rotterdam
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 16 2016 11:57 GMT
#4419
Tempest hype
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16101 Posts
May 16 2016 11:57 GMT
#4420
damn the map looks imba for fast tempest
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
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