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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
February 02 2016 04:12 GMT
#161
yeah SKs reactions were really slow
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 04:13:33
February 02 2016 04:12 GMT
#162
On February 02 2016 13:12 Ppjack wrote:
What kind of evil schedules IEM at 4 am and proleague 5 hours laters.
Am I suppose to live by night for the reste of my life ?

probably the countries that live in that timezone...

also welcome to being an SC2 fan from North America
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
February 02 2016 04:13 GMT
#163
On February 02 2016 13:06 stuchiu wrote:
I'm so meh about roach/ravager ZvT.


I personally believe the meta will change from Roach/Ravager to a composition that is better at dealing with drops. Whoever is casting with Kalerias said Ravager/Ling/Muta? I'm curious to see what happens.

Also, is this Byun's best achievement ever? Even if he doesn't make it to Grand Final
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 02 2016 04:13 GMT
#164
On February 02 2016 13:13 BretZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:06 stuchiu wrote:
I'm so meh about roach/ravager ZvT.


I personally believe the meta will change from Roach/Ravager to a composition that is better at dealing with drops. Whoever is casting with Kalerias said Ravager/Ling/Muta? I'm curious to see what happens.

Also, is this Byun's best achievement ever? Even if he doesn't make it to Grand Final


No he made it to a ro4 GSL
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
February 02 2016 04:13 GMT
#165
jesus ByuN looks like he's seen some shit
very illegal and very uncool
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 04:14:21
February 02 2016 04:13 GMT
#166
On February 02 2016 13:11 stuchiu wrote:
roach/ravager just gave the comp longevity, it isn't much more interesting to me.

Expecting any kind of roach based comp to be entertaining is folly.

Edit: actually burrowed roaches can be fun sometimes.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 04:14:21
February 02 2016 04:14 GMT
#167
On February 02 2016 13:13 BretZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:06 stuchiu wrote:
I'm so meh about roach/ravager ZvT.


I personally believe the meta will change from Roach/Ravager to a composition that is better at dealing with drops. Whoever is casting with Kalerias said Ravager/Ling/Muta? I'm curious to see what happens.

Also, is this Byun's best achievement ever? Even if he doesn't make it to Grand Final


No, him mentally breaking to Seed in the ro4 in the GSL is his best achievement

edit: also happens to be one of his saddest
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 02 2016 04:14 GMT
#168
On February 02 2016 13:13 argonautdice wrote:
jesus ByuN looks like he's seen some shit

KeSPA jail does that to folks
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 02 2016 04:14 GMT
#169
On February 02 2016 13:13 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:13 BretZ wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:06 stuchiu wrote:
I'm so meh about roach/ravager ZvT.


I personally believe the meta will change from Roach/Ravager to a composition that is better at dealing with drops. Whoever is casting with Kalerias said Ravager/Ling/Muta? I'm curious to see what happens.

Also, is this Byun's best achievement ever? Even if he doesn't make it to Grand Final


No he made it to a ro4 GSL


twice and each time with decent runs. Even winning the tournament wouldn't trump it imo.
Zest fanboy.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
February 02 2016 04:15 GMT
#170
On February 02 2016 13:13 BretZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:06 stuchiu wrote:
I'm so meh about roach/ravager ZvT.


I personally believe the meta will change from Roach/Ravager to a composition that is better at dealing with drops. Whoever is casting with Kalerias said Ravager/Ling/Muta? I'm curious to see what happens.

Also, is this Byun's best achievement ever? Even if he doesn't make it to Grand Final


Beating Lilbow is not ByuN's greatest achievement, no...
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 02 2016 04:15 GMT
#171
The problem with roach/ravager/infestor/ultra is that in terms of pure money you need about 7-8 bases it looked like (because ByuN made him burn a lot of units/resource in drop prevention/drone retention), but if you get spread out that far you just can't deal with drop.s You can't attack till armor is done and there's no guarantee you can break them either.

There are a lot of problems with this comp when played against Byun/TY
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
February 02 2016 04:15 GMT
#172
On February 02 2016 13:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:13 BretZ wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:06 stuchiu wrote:
I'm so meh about roach/ravager ZvT.


I personally believe the meta will change from Roach/Ravager to a composition that is better at dealing with drops. Whoever is casting with Kalerias said Ravager/Ling/Muta? I'm curious to see what happens.

Also, is this Byun's best achievement ever? Even if he doesn't make it to Grand Final


No, him mentally breaking to Seed in the ro4 in the GSL is his best achievement

edit: also happens to be one of his saddest

He got 2nd in Code A in 2011.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
ecnahc
Profile Joined January 2010
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 04:16:47
February 02 2016 04:16 GMT
#173
i think the r/r corr style that the skt zergs used a couple times is pretty strong

i want to see a decently fast 3rd from sk into a r/r timing or solid defense on ulrena
inside a cloud of resentment and vanity
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
February 02 2016 04:16 GMT
#174
On February 02 2016 13:14 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:13 argonautdice wrote:
jesus ByuN looks like he's seen some shit

KeSPA jail does that to folks

KeSPA jail is real? I thought it's just a boogeyman story to scare newcomers
very illegal and very uncool
Ppjack
Profile Joined March 2015
Belgium489 Posts
February 02 2016 04:16 GMT
#175
On February 02 2016 13:12 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:12 Ppjack wrote:
What kind of evil schedules IEM at 4 am and proleague 5 hours laters.
Am I suppose to live by night for the reste of my life ?

probably the countries that live in that timezone...

also welcome to being an SC2 fan from North America


I was leaning towards a conspiration of coffee producers.

But what you said could make sense, even if I don't get why there are different timezone while there is only one sun and one earth.
<;o)
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
February 02 2016 04:17 GMT
#176
On February 02 2016 13:15 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:13 BretZ wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:06 stuchiu wrote:
I'm so meh about roach/ravager ZvT.


I personally believe the meta will change from Roach/Ravager to a composition that is better at dealing with drops. Whoever is casting with Kalerias said Ravager/Ling/Muta? I'm curious to see what happens.

Also, is this Byun's best achievement ever? Even if he doesn't make it to Grand Final


No, him mentally breaking to Seed in the ro4 in the GSL is his best achievement

edit: also happens to be one of his saddest

He got 2nd in Code A in 2011.


I think I'd rank ro4 code S better than 2nd code A, maybe equal
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 02 2016 04:17 GMT
#177
Decent obsing so far, props to the person doing it.
Zest fanboy.
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
February 02 2016 04:17 GMT
#178
On February 02 2016 13:15 stuchiu wrote:
The problem with roach/ravager/infestor/ultra is that in terms of pure money you need about 7-8 bases it looked like (because ByuN made him burn a lot of units/resource in drop prevention/drone retention), but if you get spread out that far you just can't deal with drop.s You can't attack till armor is done and there's no guarantee you can break them either.

There are a lot of problems with this comp when played against Byun/TY



I'm glad we've been blessed with the possibility of TvZ Gods.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 02 2016 04:18 GMT
#179
On February 02 2016 13:16 Ppjack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:12 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:12 Ppjack wrote:
What kind of evil schedules IEM at 4 am and proleague 5 hours laters.
Am I suppose to live by night for the reste of my life ?

probably the countries that live in that timezone...

also welcome to being an SC2 fan from North America


I was leaning towards a conspiration of coffee producers.

But what you said could make sense, even if I don't get why there are different timezone while there is only one sun and one earth.

are you B.o.B? is the world flat?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
ecnahc
Profile Joined January 2010
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 04:18:48
February 02 2016 04:18 GMT
#180
this could be worm..

e: nvm spire my stream is behind >_<
inside a cloud of resentment and vanity
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