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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 22 2016 16:03 GMT
#421
On January 23 2016 01:02 Inflicted wrote:
Serral should get FireCake in ro32, rip

if it's so, then may firegod have mercy on his poor soul
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
January 22 2016 16:04 GMT
#422
On January 23 2016 01:03 royalroadweed wrote:
Bo5s in the ro32. Thats new but I like it.

One more positive from the shorter games.
why even
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
January 22 2016 16:04 GMT
#423
Okay, thanks for all the answers, folks!

Conclusion: ZvZ is destined to be the worst mirror as always

PvP games on GSL and SSL look awesome so far!
gg no re thx
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
January 22 2016 16:05 GMT
#424
Give bracket ._.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
January 22 2016 16:05 GMT
#425
On January 23 2016 01:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Huh, Scarlett vs TLO won that poll but they're going with Nerchio vs Lilbow anyway. Probably for hte best to not show the same matchup twice in a row though

They don't want to show the hometown hero get dismantled either
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 22 2016 16:05 GMT
#426
On January 23 2016 01:04 RKC wrote:
Okay, thanks for all the answers, folks!

Conclusion: ZvZ is destined to be the worst mirror as always

PvP games on GSL and SSL look awesome so far!

ZvZ was by far the least coinflippy mirror in its nature for all of HotS
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
January 22 2016 16:05 GMT
#427
On January 23 2016 01:02 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 01:01 Elentos wrote:
I was wondering how Lillekanin is now on the verge of making it into the money at a DH. And then I looked at who was in his group. Not the hardest group ever.

Hey you have to keep in mind this isnt even in a metagame where he can abuse the fuck out of ridiculous turtle builds either

I think game favors him more than hots. Before he was known for turtling he was know for ridiculous banshee builds. I those much better in lotv than hots.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
January 22 2016 16:06 GMT
#428
On January 23 2016 01:04 RKC wrote:
Okay, thanks for all the answers, folks!

Conclusion: ZvZ is destined to be the worst mirror as always

PvP games on GSL and SSL look awesome so far!

Dear vs sOs was so good :D
It appears I have been chosen.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
January 22 2016 16:06 GMT
#429
On January 23 2016 01:05 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 01:04 RKC wrote:
Okay, thanks for all the answers, folks!

Conclusion: ZvZ is destined to be the worst mirror as always

PvP games on GSL and SSL look awesome so far!

ZvZ was by far the least coinflippy mirror in its nature for all of HotS

By far the most boring to watch too though
It appears I have been chosen.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 22 2016 16:06 GMT
#430
Bracket
http://binarybeast.com/xSC21601183#brackets
Liquipedia"Expert"
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
January 22 2016 16:06 GMT
#431
On January 23 2016 01:03 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 01:00 Aocowns wrote:
On January 23 2016 00:56 RKC wrote:
Is LoTV ZvZ just as bad as HoTS? I've never really seen a real competitive match-up. I mean, what could be worse than Roach wars?

I think it's one of the most annoying match ups I've ever played in its current state. A lot of juggling with ling/bane builds and when you get to the roach/ravager stage most people still have big troubles knowing what is going on or what is optimal in terms of transitions, ravager to roach ratio, whether roach or ravagers should be in front etc. It usually devolves into messy grindy games

so mass roach vs mass roach is bad, but having to make decisions about compositions and unit ratios is also bad? o_O i get that you're saying it's because lotv is new, but i don't fully agree. how many of your units you morph into banes, ravagers or lurkers is classic starcraft, tech vs more weaker units. it's just in the form of a unit morph instead of a building. it makes the matchup far MORE interesting imo, and i personally think "grindy" games are better to watch

yeah from a viewer's perspective I agree it might be better, but roach vs roach was a lot more stable and tactical imo, though roach ravager could change into something better over time I guess. You should listen to Snute's thoughts on ZvZ sometime, he went quite in-depth in explaining why he liked hots ZvZ much more
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
mogoh
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany109 Posts
January 22 2016 16:06 GMT
#432
Is there a Bracket of the Playoffs?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2016 16:07 GMT
#433
On January 23 2016 01:05 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 01:02 Aocowns wrote:
On January 23 2016 01:01 Elentos wrote:
I was wondering how Lillekanin is now on the verge of making it into the money at a DH. And then I looked at who was in his group. Not the hardest group ever.

Hey you have to keep in mind this isnt even in a metagame where he can abuse the fuck out of ridiculous turtle builds either

I think game favors him more than hots. Before he was known for turtling he was know for ridiculous banshee builds. I those much better in lotv than hots.


+ reaper cheese are rly good and liberator abuse is quite nice too. He's entertaining as hell when he isn't turtling.
Zest fanboy.
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
January 22 2016 16:07 GMT
#434
On January 23 2016 01:06 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 01:04 RKC wrote:
Okay, thanks for all the answers, folks!

Conclusion: ZvZ is destined to be the worst mirror as always

PvP games on GSL and SSL look awesome so far!

Dear vs sOs was so good :D


I still can't believe sOs did DTs twice in a row!

ZvZ has always hard and grindy and yada yada, but Imo it's much more entertaining in it's LoTV state
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 16:08:10
January 22 2016 16:07 GMT
#435
marinelord showtime and lilbow nerchio

rip french hope

thanks for the link btw
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
January 22 2016 16:07 GMT
#436
On January 23 2016 01:03 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 01:02 Inflicted wrote:
Serral should get FireCake in ro32, rip

if it's so, then may firegod have mercy on his poor soul

I really hope "firegod" doesn't become a thing.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
January 22 2016 16:08 GMT
#437
Oh, Dayshi got Neeb.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 22 2016 16:08 GMT
#438
On January 23 2016 01:07 Makro wrote:
marinelord showtime and lilbow nerchio

rip french hope

Believe in the adept
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 22 2016 16:08 GMT
#439
On January 23 2016 01:07 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 01:03 Makro wrote:
On January 23 2016 01:02 Inflicted wrote:
Serral should get FireCake in ro32, rip

if it's so, then may firegod have mercy on his poor soul

I really hope "firegod" doesn't become a thing.

SGTK is that you ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
January 22 2016 16:08 GMT
#440
On January 23 2016 01:03 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 01:02 Aocowns wrote:
On January 23 2016 01:01 Elentos wrote:
I was wondering how Lillekanin is now on the verge of making it into the money at a DH. And then I looked at who was in his group. Not the hardest group ever.

Hey you have to keep in mind this isnt even in a metagame where he can abuse the fuck out of ridiculous turtle builds either

have you seen his games? I have. He does liberator/planetary turtle vs Zerg

god fucking damn it of course he is

hey mods where does the line for being mean to players go? I have the feeling I'm gonna call him a cunt one of these days
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
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