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aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
January 03 2016 22:30 GMT
#1601
On January 04 2016 07:28 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:25 miniskirt wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
DID MARINELORD JUST SAY HE'S RETIRING IN SEPTEMBER?

AFTER HE DOES THIS?

WHY DO FOREIGNERS WITH SO MUCH POTENTIAL QUIT SO EARLY?

SC2 is the greatest esport, but there's no money in it for the players

New WCS has tons of money for good foreigners, and he just showed he's a good foreigner.


The problem is that Marinelord has to think what he is going to do when he is 50-60-70-80 years old and no money in the bank...


I think it's fair to say that like in every country, not going after an education in France is a very risky move.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 03 2016 22:30 GMT
#1602
On January 04 2016 07:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:25 miniskirt wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
DID MARINELORD JUST SAY HE'S RETIRING IN SEPTEMBER?

AFTER HE DOES THIS?

WHY DO FOREIGNERS WITH SO MUCH POTENTIAL QUIT SO EARLY?

SC2 is the greatest esport, but there's no money in it for the players

New WCS has tons of money for good foreigners, and he just showed he's a good foreigner.

he is 20. He is at his mental height. Unless you have a lifelong career chance, which I don't believe is a given in Western esports (especially not SC2) right now, you should focus on school at that age. If he doesn't do it in the coming years he probably will never.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 03 2016 22:30 GMT
#1603
On January 04 2016 07:28 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:23 GumBa wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really wonder if a proleague style online tournament hosted by the ogaming guys would be what the foreign scene really needs.
I think it would be incredible

I think that would actually legit help. Forcing foreigners to practice week in and week out and actually prepare for shit.

Yep, blizzard pls give ogaming some money so this actually could happen :D

I mean, just change the WCS format to a teamleague based on nations/regions like this.

Teams wouldn't like that all that much i feel :D
National stuff is fun, but it really cannot be the main competition tbh
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 03 2016 22:30 GMT
#1604
On January 04 2016 07:29 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:27 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:26 sYstim wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:19 TriZ wrote:
Sick by Marinelord, he played really well.
But to me the Koreans were playing worse and worse throughout the set. By the time PartinG's second game came around I felt it was pretty much over.


I've watched countless Parting/Innovation games for years. I've never seen them make so many sloppy mistakes - it looked like they didn't even care.

- Innovation would never send medivacs with only 2 tanks into a viking especially without any marine support. Also, when he won the major engagement and left his position at ML's 3rd, that was a clear mercy move. He scanned and saw more tanks, but like 6 marines. He could have easily dropped onto the tanks and game over or moved over to the left and harass him. He had the medivacs to evacuate to the east easily.

- Parting had 1.3k minerals at one point in his revival game and wasn't supply blocked. He also did minimal harassment with his phoenix. That is not the Parting I've seen for years and years.

I doubt this was 'rigged', but I can assure you the koreans either did not care/try, were exhausted (it's 7AM there) or wanted to give France the win for the bigger picture of eSports.

Life would never lose to Sjow
MC would never lose to SpaceMarine
top-form herO, Rain and sOs would never lose to Snute
Hydra would never lose to Lilbow
etc

Every single one of those losses have been acredited to lag bad food jetlag bad chairs and unfair advantages to the foreigner.

sjow vs life was a match of incredible feat fuck you
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
YamiRi
Profile Joined September 2015
152 Posts
January 03 2016 22:30 GMT
#1605
On January 04 2016 07:26 sYstim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:19 TriZ wrote:
Sick by Marinelord, he played really well.
But to me the Koreans were playing worse and worse throughout the set. By the time PartinG's second game came around I felt it was pretty much over.


I've watched countless Parting/Innovation games for years. I've never seen them make so many sloppy mistakes - it looked like they didn't even care.

- Innovation would never send medivacs with only 2 tanks into a viking especially without any marine support. Also, when he won the major engagement and left his position at ML's 3rd, that was a clear mercy move. He scanned and saw more tanks, but like 6 marines. He could have easily dropped onto the tanks and game over or moved over to the left and harass him. He had the medivacs to evacuate to the east easily.

- Parting had 1.3k minerals at one point in his revival game and wasn't supply blocked. He also did minimal harassment with his phoenix. That is not the Parting I've seen for years and years.

I doubt this was 'rigged', but I can assure you the koreans either did not care/try, were exhausted (it's 7AM there) or wanted to give France the win for the bigger picture of eSports.


I have also thought this as weird
however, there is no doubt that MLord handles every single thing in perfect way and putting perfect build order as well

I guess the Korean just panic.. I never watch Innovation throw his troops just like that
They might be sleepy but if you're taking this tournament seriously, you could manage your resting time better considering there is no other Korean tournament that is going on right now

gratz for France.. what a time to be alive
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 03 2016 22:30 GMT
#1606
On January 04 2016 07:29 Ppjack wrote:
HAHAHAA

Now that is korean wellfare not letting Marinelord play in GSL !

Where are you now Teamliquid-superbiased-korean-fanboys ???

HAHAHAAA

:D

My god i'm so happy

Yh fuck those disgusting elitists
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
January 03 2016 22:31 GMT
#1607
On January 04 2016 07:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:26 Elentos wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really wonder if a proleague style online tournament hosted by the ogaming guys would be what the foreign scene really needs.
I think it would be incredible

One of the biggest problems foreign players have imo is dealing with the pressure when playing at live events. So while something like that would be awesome, I think the foreign scene also needs more smaller offline stuff.

Well live would be better for sure, but that is pretty much impossible to do in the west.
Smaller offline events surely help, but it's also less competetive.

Well the thing is, if you make them too big, what happens is that the experienced players just flood in and take it. And for the foreign scene, everything is more fragmented. In Korea there's right now 7 teams (to our knowledge). The rest of the world has way more. Getting teamleagues to work is a piece of work with that.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 03 2016 22:31 GMT
#1608
On January 04 2016 07:30 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:29 GumBa wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:27 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:26 sYstim wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:19 TriZ wrote:
Sick by Marinelord, he played really well.
But to me the Koreans were playing worse and worse throughout the set. By the time PartinG's second game came around I felt it was pretty much over.


I've watched countless Parting/Innovation games for years. I've never seen them make so many sloppy mistakes - it looked like they didn't even care.

- Innovation would never send medivacs with only 2 tanks into a viking especially without any marine support. Also, when he won the major engagement and left his position at ML's 3rd, that was a clear mercy move. He scanned and saw more tanks, but like 6 marines. He could have easily dropped onto the tanks and game over or moved over to the left and harass him. He had the medivacs to evacuate to the east easily.

- Parting had 1.3k minerals at one point in his revival game and wasn't supply blocked. He also did minimal harassment with his phoenix. That is not the Parting I've seen for years and years.

I doubt this was 'rigged', but I can assure you the koreans either did not care/try, were exhausted (it's 7AM there) or wanted to give France the win for the bigger picture of eSports.

Life would never lose to Sjow
MC would never lose to SpaceMarine
top-form herO, Rain and sOs would never lose to Snute
Hydra would never lose to Lilbow
etc

Every single one of those losses have been acredited to lag bad food jetlag bad chairs and unfair advantages to the foreigner.

sjow vs life was a match of incredible feat fuck you

^_^
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
IceBerrY
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany220 Posts
January 03 2016 22:31 GMT
#1609
On January 04 2016 07:20 showstealer1829 wrote:
I hope the VoDs of this end up on PornHub considering 3 Koreans just got fucked by French Organizers


I think this is the most salty post on this thread, this is truly an achievment considering the amount of bitterness in here. Gratz! :D

And even bigger gratulation to the french team, wp MarineLord.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 03 2016 22:31 GMT
#1610
On January 04 2016 07:28 Makro wrote:
that 1 hour break gave the edge for marinelord, what a genius strategy

time to apply it at the next blizzcon

isn't that how TaeJa beat INnoVation?
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 03 2016 22:31 GMT
#1611
On January 04 2016 07:30 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:25 miniskirt wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
DID MARINELORD JUST SAY HE'S RETIRING IN SEPTEMBER?

AFTER HE DOES THIS?

WHY DO FOREIGNERS WITH SO MUCH POTENTIAL QUIT SO EARLY?

SC2 is the greatest esport, but there's no money in it for the players

New WCS has tons of money for good foreigners, and he just showed he's a good foreigner.

he is 20. He is at his mental height. Unless you have a lifelong career chance, which I don't believe is a given in Western esports (especially not SC2) right now, you should focus on school at that age. If he doesn't do it in the coming years he probably will never.


I'm going to go back to school at 23. It's not that outlandish of an idea, especially if you can have an interesting career before that.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 03 2016 22:32 GMT
#1612
On January 04 2016 07:31 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:28 Makro wrote:
that 1 hour break gave the edge for marinelord, what a genius strategy

time to apply it at the next blizzcon

isn't that how TaeJa beat INnoVation?

OK NOW YOU TRIGGERED ME!!!

ah fuck it.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 03 2016 22:32 GMT
#1613
On January 04 2016 07:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:30 Big J wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:27 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:25 miniskirt wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
DID MARINELORD JUST SAY HE'S RETIRING IN SEPTEMBER?

AFTER HE DOES THIS?

WHY DO FOREIGNERS WITH SO MUCH POTENTIAL QUIT SO EARLY?

SC2 is the greatest esport, but there's no money in it for the players

New WCS has tons of money for good foreigners, and he just showed he's a good foreigner.

he is 20. He is at his mental height. Unless you have a lifelong career chance, which I don't believe is a given in Western esports (especially not SC2) right now, you should focus on school at that age. If he doesn't do it in the coming years he probably will never.


I'm going to go back to school at 23. It's not that outlandish of an idea, especially if you can have an interesting career before that.

Do you have an intersting career though?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 03 2016 22:32 GMT
#1614
NW2 peak : 20k viewers
NW3 peak : 58k viewers

http://www.fuzic.nl/franchises/nationwars/
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 03 2016 22:32 GMT
#1615
On January 04 2016 07:30 Paljas wrote:
MLord is the greatest french person of all time

nop, it's firegod
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
January 03 2016 22:32 GMT
#1616
On January 04 2016 07:29 Ppjack wrote:
HAHAHAA

Now that is korean wellfare not letting Marinelord play in GSL !

Side note, that's just Millenium being nice. No country is banned from GSL.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 03 2016 22:33 GMT
#1617
On January 04 2016 07:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:28 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:23 GumBa wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really wonder if a proleague style online tournament hosted by the ogaming guys would be what the foreign scene really needs.
I think it would be incredible

I think that would actually legit help. Forcing foreigners to practice week in and week out and actually prepare for shit.

Yep, blizzard pls give ogaming some money so this actually could happen :D

I mean, just change the WCS format to a teamleague based on nations/regions like this.

Teams wouldn't like that all that much i feel :D
National stuff is fun, but it really cannot be the main competition tbh

Then maybe make it regular teams like Mill, Acer, etc, but with a given % of the team's players having to be from the team's country of origin?
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 03 2016 22:33 GMT
#1618
On January 04 2016 07:32 Boucot wrote:
NW2 peak : 20k viewers
NW3 peak : 58k viewers

http://www.fuzic.nl/franchises/nationwars/

That's awesome.
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TL+ Member
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 03 2016 22:33 GMT
#1619
On January 04 2016 07:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:26 Elentos wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really wonder if a proleague style online tournament hosted by the ogaming guys would be what the foreign scene really needs.
I think it would be incredible

One of the biggest problems foreign players have imo is dealing with the pressure when playing at live events. So while something like that would be awesome, I think the foreign scene also needs more smaller offline stuff.

Well live would be better for sure, but that is pretty much impossible to do in the west.
Smaller offline events surely help, but it's also less competetive.

Well the thing is, if you make them too big, what happens is that the experienced players just flood in and take it. And for the foreign scene, everything is more fragmented. In Korea there's right now 7 teams (to our knowledge). The rest of the world has way more. Getting teamleagues to work is a piece of work with that.

Good point. We already had online team leagues and it never really worked out in the end :/
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 03 2016 22:34 GMT
#1620
On January 04 2016 07:32 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2016 07:31 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 04 2016 07:28 Makro wrote:
that 1 hour break gave the edge for marinelord, what a genius strategy

time to apply it at the next blizzcon

isn't that how TaeJa beat INnoVation?

OK NOW YOU TRIGGERED ME!!!

ah fuck it.

I know there was some life (Life?) left in you
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
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