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Hurricane vs Reality
TY vs Soulkey
Losira vs ByuN
Bunny vs Life + Show Spoiler [Results!] + + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Hurricane vs Reality] +Poll: Recommend Hurricane vs Reality Game 1?★ - Ugh, disgusting (8) 67% ★★ - Pretty meh (3) 25% ★★★ - It was alright (1) 8% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (0) 0% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hurricane vs Reality Game 1? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
Poll: Recommend Hurricane vs Reality Game 2?★ - Ugh, disgusting (6) 50% ★★ - Pretty meh (2) 17% ★★★ - It was alright (0) 0% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (2) 17% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hurricane vs Reality Game 2? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
Poll: Recommend Hurricane vs Reality Game 3?★ - Ugh, disgusting (4) 40% ★★ - Pretty meh (2) 20% ★★★ - It was alright (1) 10% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (0) 0% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (3) 30% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hurricane vs Reality Game 3? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
+ Show Spoiler [TY vs Soulkey] +Poll: Recommend TY vs Soulkey Game 1?★ - Ugh, disgusting (0) 0% ★★ - Pretty meh (0) 0% ★★★ - It was alright (7) 70% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (1) 10% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (2) 20% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend TY vs Soulkey Game 1? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
Poll: Recommend TY vs Soulkey Game 2?★ - Ugh, disgusting (0) 0% ★★ - Pretty meh (0) 0% ★★★ - It was alright (0) 0% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (3) 12% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (23) 88% 26 total votes Your vote: Recommend TY vs Soulkey Game 2? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
Poll: Recommend TY vs Soulkey Game 3?★ - Ugh, disgusting (2) 20% ★★ - Pretty meh (1) 10% ★★★ - It was alright (2) 20% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (5) 50% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend TY vs Soulkey Game 3? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
+ Show Spoiler [Losira vs ByuN] +Poll: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 1?★ - Ugh, disgusting (1) 7% ★★ - Pretty meh (3) 20% ★★★ - It was alright (7) 47% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (3) 20% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 1? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
Poll: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 2?★ - Ugh, disgusting (0) 0% ★★ - Pretty meh (2) 14% ★★★ - It was alright (4) 29% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (7) 50% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 2? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
Poll: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 3?★ - Ugh, disgusting (1) 11% ★★ - Pretty meh (1) 11% ★★★ - It was alright (1) 11% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (3) 33% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (3) 33% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 3? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
+ Show Spoiler [Bunny vs Life] +Poll: Recommend Bunny vs Life Game 1?★ - Ugh, disgusting (2) 15% ★★ - Pretty meh (2) 15% ★★★ - It was alright (7) 54% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (1) 8% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (1) 8% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bunny vs Life Game 1? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
Poll: Recommend Bunny vs Life Game 2?★ - Ugh, disgusting (1) 6% ★★ - Pretty meh (0) 0% ★★★ - It was alright (3) 19% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (7) 44% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (5) 31% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bunny vs Life Game 2? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
Poll: Recommend Bunny vs Life Game 3?★ - Ugh, disgusting (0) 0% ★★ - Pretty meh (0) 0% ★★★ - It was alright (1) 9% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (8) 73% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (2) 18% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bunny vs Life Game 3? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
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Poll: Hurricane vs RealityReality (23) 58% Hurricane (17) 43% 40 total votes Your vote: Hurricane vs Reality (Vote): Hurricane (Vote): Reality
Poll: TY vs SoulkeyTY (24) 53% Soulkey (21) 47% 45 total votes Your vote: TY vs Soulkey (Vote): TY (Vote): Soulkey
Poll: Losira vs ByuNByuN (34) 83% Losira (7) 17% 41 total votes Your vote: Losira vs ByuN (Vote): Losira (Vote): ByuN
Poll: Bunny vs LifeLife (38) 81% Bunny (9) 19% 47 total votes Your vote: Bunny vs Life (Vote): Bunny (Vote): Life
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Some great matches here, for sure. Definitely looking forward to it, especially for the KT players and Byun.
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TY vs Soulkey is definitely what I want to see most.
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Australia18228 Posts
Schedule is different from Week 1 so I don't know if they changed the bracket also
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On December 22 2015 20:36 Inflicted wrote: Schedule is different from Week 1 so I don't know if they changed the bracket also They didn't.
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Australia18228 Posts
On December 22 2015 21:11 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2015 20:36 Inflicted wrote: Schedule is different from Week 1 so I don't know if they changed the bracket also They didn't.
There's no bracket though? Rules says it should've been 2 matches from top half and 2 from bottom half on Day 1 but they're doing the entire top half
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On December 22 2015 21:17 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2015 21:11 Elentos wrote:On December 22 2015 20:36 Inflicted wrote: Schedule is different from Week 1 so I don't know if they changed the bracket also They didn't. There's no bracket though? Rules says it should've been 2 matches from top half and 2 from bottom half on Day 1 but they're doing the entire top half You're right they changed it from how they did it last week. Huh. Well, not that it matters that much.
E: I already voted in every poll why is it offering me to vote again?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51345 Posts
On December 22 2015 21:27 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2015 21:17 Inflicted wrote:On December 22 2015 21:11 Elentos wrote:On December 22 2015 20:36 Inflicted wrote: Schedule is different from Week 1 so I don't know if they changed the bracket also They didn't. There's no bracket though? Rules says it should've been 2 matches from top half and 2 from bottom half on Day 1 but they're doing the entire top half You're right they changed it from how they did it last week. Huh. Well, not that it matters that much. E: I already voted in every poll why is it offering me to vote again? Voting is locked to IPs, eg, if you check on ur fone u can vote, if check then on a dekstop pc u can vote again. Etcetc
This is why our friend Seraji or whatever his name was rigged that TL community vote thing in 2014? or whenever it was. He voted for himself many many many many many times
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On December 22 2015 22:23 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2015 21:27 Elentos wrote:On December 22 2015 21:17 Inflicted wrote:On December 22 2015 21:11 Elentos wrote:On December 22 2015 20:36 Inflicted wrote: Schedule is different from Week 1 so I don't know if they changed the bracket also They didn't. There's no bracket though? Rules says it should've been 2 matches from top half and 2 from bottom half on Day 1 but they're doing the entire top half You're right they changed it from how they did it last week. Huh. Well, not that it matters that much. E: I already voted in every poll why is it offering me to vote again? Voting is locked to IPs, eg, if you check on ur fone u can vote, if check then on a dekstop pc u can vote again. Etcetc This is why our friend Seraji or whatever his name was rigged that TL community vote thing in 2014? or whenever it was. He voted for himself many many many many many times Weird, it's on the same PC on the same day.
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I'm pretty ByuN is screwed, he has to play GSL, then go to China while there is the offline GSL part...
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On December 22 2015 22:46 Aeromi wrote:I'm pretty ByuN is screwed, he has to play GSL, then go to China while there is the offline GSL part... If he gets to the offline part X-Team probably lets him play in it I'd assume. If he wants to.
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On December 22 2015 22:46 Aeromi wrote:I'm pretty ByuN is screwed, he has to play GSL, then go to China while there is the offline GSL part... You really thought we'd ever see ByuN play offline?
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your Country52796 Posts
Reality 2-1 Soulkey 2-1 ByuN 2-0 Life 2-0
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ByuN agains Losira :O
kicking it summer 2011 style
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TY vs Soulkey and Losira vs Byun have me the most excited.
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I'm surprised the polls aren't favoring Hurricane considering that he beat Maru, Dream and Cure in the qualifiers.
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Only series I care about is TY vs Soulkey. Don't care who wins I just want a good series!
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On December 23 2015 04:46 royalroadweed wrote: I'm surprised the polls aren't favoring Hurricane considering that he beat Maru, Dream and Cure in the qualifiers. didn't know that, also maybe we all hope that adepts really aren't that strong.
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Very nice day of games, excited!
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On December 23 2015 04:46 royalroadweed wrote: I'm surprised the polls aren't favoring Hurricane considering that he beat Maru, Dream and Cure in the qualifiers. Probably because he's underrated and not very popular. Plus last week when he played against Zest he suffered a beatdown.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Everyone knows reality is stronger than any temporal weather condition.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49043 Posts
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it's gonna be a sad sad day for terrans, I can feel it
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On December 23 2015 17:52 Noonius wrote: it's gonna be a sad sad day for terrans, I can feel it Naaa TY and Byun got this
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Also 6 players who made both weeks of Pre-Season didn't make SSL -.-
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ByuN hype! hope me makes it to offline, that would be sick
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up at 7:30am lets goooooo
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Austria24413 Posts
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ready to see how hurricane adepted maru dream and cure
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On December 23 2015 18:40 KingofdaHipHop wrote: ready to see how hurricane adepted maru dream and cure Adept into DT haha.
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harassing teching expanding all at once, looks like nightelf in wc3 to me
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Impressed with Hurricane's play so far
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Poll: Recommend Hurricane vs Reality Game 1?★ - Ugh, disgusting (8) 67% ★★ - Pretty meh (3) 25% ★★★ - It was alright (1) 8% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (0) 0% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hurricane vs Reality Game 1? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
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slow factory opening in tvp no good.
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i just realized this is a teamkill T.T
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Really wanna stay up and watch all the glorious KT players win but I don't think i'll make it
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this is a super protoss strat
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should you even wall off versus protoss nowadays?
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Ah so this is how Hurricane beat all those good players. Pylons.
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On December 23 2015 18:55 cmdspinner1 wrote: should you even wall off versus protoss nowadays?
You have to, otherwise adepts will just run in and ruin your day.
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cyclones are a great defensive unit it would appear, at least not in big army situations
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Don't know if I should laugh or cry
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Jesus this was a dirty game.
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Australia18228 Posts
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Poll: Recommend Hurricane vs Reality Game 2?★ - Ugh, disgusting (6) 50% ★★ - Pretty meh (2) 17% ★★★ - It was alright (0) 0% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (2) 17% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hurricane vs Reality Game 2? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
Poll: Recommend Hurricane vs Reality Game 3?★ - Ugh, disgusting (4) 40% ★★ - Pretty meh (2) 20% ★★★ - It was alright (1) 10% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (0) 0% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (3) 30% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Hurricane vs Reality Game 3? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
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Protoss is so good holy shit, adepts are insane.
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Austria24413 Posts
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cant wall off, cant not wall off
WHAT DO WE DO
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protoss even more bullshit in lotv it seems.... i am not watching much sc2 if it stays that way, that's for sure.
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Australia18228 Posts
On December 23 2015 18:59 Sif_ wrote: cant wall off, cant not wall off
WHAT DO WE DO
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No more protoss today, woohoo
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When do you build the bunker though? You have to scout its coming very soon....
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I don't understand the decision to make Photon Overcharge into Pylon Overcharge, doesn't it just make cheese stronger?
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On December 23 2015 19:02 20-Minute-Jackal wrote: I don't understand the decision to make Photon Overcharge into Pylon Overcharge, doesn't it just make cheese stronger? The original idea was that pylons are easier to snipe than a nexus. But it turns out that if you make pylon overcharge this strong and spammable it becomes a cheese.
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On December 23 2015 19:04 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:02 20-Minute-Jackal wrote: I don't understand the decision to make Photon Overcharge into Pylon Overcharge, doesn't it just make cheese stronger? The original idea was that pylons are easier to snipe than a nexus. But it turns out that if you make pylon overcharge this strong and spammable it becomes a cheese. It can be fixed quit easily. Just make it so the pylon must be powering a building for example.
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is it possible against proxy gate tho? I know the timing is good against a normal in-base gate...
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Italy2575 Posts
..big lol at MorroW thinking he can teach Reality how to play...
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Is morrow playing protoss now? I guess yes?
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On December 23 2015 19:06 cmdspinner1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:04 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 19:02 20-Minute-Jackal wrote: I don't understand the decision to make Photon Overcharge into Pylon Overcharge, doesn't it just make cheese stronger? The original idea was that pylons are easier to snipe than a nexus. But it turns out that if you make pylon overcharge this strong and spammable it becomes a cheese. It can be fixed quit easily. Just make it so the pylon must be powering a building for example.
oh just imagine the artosis pylon possibilities!
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On December 23 2015 19:06 Sif_ wrote:is it possible against proxy gate tho? I know the timing is good against a normal in-base gate...
Not according to Major
edit: And yes, Morrow is protoss atm.
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On December 23 2015 19:06 cmdspinner1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:04 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 19:02 20-Minute-Jackal wrote: I don't understand the decision to make Photon Overcharge into Pylon Overcharge, doesn't it just make cheese stronger? The original idea was that pylons are easier to snipe than a nexus. But it turns out that if you make pylon overcharge this strong and spammable it becomes a cheese. It can be fixed quit easily. Just make it so the pylon must be powering a building for example.
Thats an interesting solution. PO is such a bullshit tactic when used offensively in early game
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On December 23 2015 19:06 sibs wrote: Is morrow playing protoss now? I guess yes? Yeah he is
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On December 23 2015 19:08 Keeemy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:06 sibs wrote: Is morrow playing protoss now? I guess yes? Yeah he is
I guess he switches to Zerg eventually
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SK has so few drones tho...
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On December 23 2015 19:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote: KIM MIN CHUL HYPEU!!! rip
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That was a strange game. Glad TY won though.
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Poll: Recommend TY vs Soulkey Game 1?★ - Ugh, disgusting (0) 0% ★★ - Pretty meh (0) 0% ★★★ - It was alright (7) 70% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (1) 10% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (2) 20% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend TY vs Soulkey Game 1? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
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Averaged 6,6 drones per base at the end.
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TY may be #3 Terran after Inno and Maru
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Arrived just after I saw a Liberator come in and Soulkey GG out. Does anybody mind giving me a summary of game 1? Thanks
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On December 23 2015 19:18 seopthi wrote: TY may be #3 Terran after Inno and Maru Byun #1 tho
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LotV plays a lot like Brood War - Artosis
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On December 23 2015 19:18 EatingBomber wrote: Arrived just after I saw a Liberator come in and Soulkey GG out. Does anybody mind giving me a summary of game 1? Thanks Ravager speedling all in vs some hellions into liberator and tank (probly a reaction to rav all in didn't see everything) Ty barely holds and soulkey loses too much drones
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On December 23 2015 19:18 EatingBomber wrote: Arrived just after I saw a Liberator come in and Soulkey GG out. Does anybody mind giving me a summary of game 1? Thanks
3marine+2 widow mine drop in main while attacking with 2 hellions at natural. Denied a lot of mining time and killed some workers.
Soulkey responds with ravager-roach-ling all-in, killing a ton of workers but not breaking the tanks+medivac+liberators.
Soulkey keeps making units, not transitioning. Eventually Ty harasses some while holding. Soulkey GGs out.
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Did this observer just turn on health bars?
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On December 23 2015 19:20 EatingBomber wrote: LotV plays a lot like Brood War - Artos we've come full circle
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at least the polt viking is still around.
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Cmon TY, don't forget 2/2!
Hive already coming. TY gon die.
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why isn't SK getting that fifth?
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Ultralisk Cavern halfway down, TY on a timer here
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Haha holy crap those wm hits
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Holy those widow mine hits are money.
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TY getting great value from those Widow Mines, but hows he going to deal with the Ultras?
A slow push?
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WM hits on drones/lings aren't going to help TY here I'm afriad
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Nydus gonna make TY real sad real soon
E: Or not, quite the opposite :D
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On December 23 2015 19:31 EatingBomber wrote: WM hits on drones/lings aren't going to help TY here I'm afriad It's mostly annoying once you stabilize as Z yes. Map split is cool yo
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Nydus ultra hahah Cracklings would have done so much damage :D
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Starting to get flashbacks of Flash vs Zerg in GSL Season 3
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Soulkey going for viper gglord max
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lol wtf did soulkey just do
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Damn TY, that was so well played. TvZ clinic
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Lol wut. SK getting liberated so hard.
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Liberating all over Soulkey's face
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Wouldn't vipers just crush that?
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What is this Where are infestor/vipers???
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Wow, Liberators are OP as hell.
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Liberators are preeeeetty good
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i dont even feel bad for losing the LB on Soulkey now, that was fucking terrible by Min Chul
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Jesus those Liberators made short work of the Zerg air
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Ahahaha that's why you make vipers.
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On December 23 2015 19:35 DJHelium wrote: Wouldn't vipers just crush that? fungle would be a good tool too. that was just bad by soulkey
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Liberators bringing freedom confirmed.
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No vipers or infestors, get liberated
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On December 23 2015 19:35 EatingBomber wrote: Wow, Liberators are OP as hell. Indeed liberators are strong when you don't even have fucking vipers. Or inferstors.
Cmon bro.
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should have made 2 viperinos
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Three well controlled vipers would've solved that.
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Yeah seriously dumb to not have fungals or Vipers. Real strange play.
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Some parasitic bomb would have helped if he doenst get emp'ed.
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The freedom is strong in this game
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Late game was so poorly played from soulkey
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time to make 17 infestors and do nydus base trade
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On December 23 2015 19:35 cmdspinner1 wrote: Some parasitic bomb would have helped if he doenst get emp'ed. Broodlords outrange EMP so it's not exactly easy
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well soulkey is still rusty. should keep practicing
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Making Liberators is a good skill toi have.
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Not sure if TY looking good or if Soulkey is a bit rusty.
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Denmark145 Posts
I guess Soulkey forgot about the viper bomb :O
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Why doesnt SK nydus the rear and send in Lings?
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yeah i guess he forgot about vipers RIP
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On December 23 2015 19:36 Ej_ wrote: time to make 17 infestors and do nydus base trade Need at least 41 yo
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On December 23 2015 19:37 Liquid`Bunny wrote: I guess Soulkey forgot about the viper bomb :O but fungle is fine too imo
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Okay this TY fella is insanely good. I underestimated his competence
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this looks like BW TvP with this disgusting turret push
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On December 23 2015 19:38 Ej_ wrote: this looks like BW TvP with this disgusting turret push Reminds me of tvz mech switch without the mech :D
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Australia18228 Posts
Hope to see some BC driveby snipes
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On December 23 2015 19:37 EatingBomber wrote: Okay this TY fella is insanely good. I underestimated his competence honestly he looked pretty incompetent at ZvT previous to this match
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On December 23 2015 19:37 EatingBomber wrote: Okay this TY fella is insanely good. I underestimated his competence Soulkey is playing with his arm tied behind his back by not making Vipers.
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On December 23 2015 19:38 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:38 Ej_ wrote: this looks like BW TvP with this disgusting turret push Reminds me of tvz mech switch without the mech :D Soulkey loses cause no plague vs SK Terran
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its cool that we're seeing a late game but this is mostly just a slow death animation for our iron wall hero
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On December 23 2015 19:39 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:37 EatingBomber wrote: Okay this TY fella is insanely good. I underestimated his competence honestly he looked pretty incompetent at ZvT previous to this match Can't really tell how good he is cause soulkey is just doing random stuff in the late game Let's see if he get's rolled by Life or not :D
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Battlecruiser run-bys - is this the fate of all Zergs?
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wtf is the range on BC blink
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BC play. Today is a good day.
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WOW BC's FORGOT ABOUT THOSE
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Highlander unit composition.
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On December 23 2015 19:40 EatingBomber wrote: Battlecruiser run-bys - is this the fate of all Zergs? Atm fate of all zergs in tvz is to get viper gg lord infestor and roll whatever terran has
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On December 23 2015 19:40 Ej_ wrote: wtf is the range on BC blink Jumping to light speed doesn't have a range
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On December 23 2015 19:40 Ej_ wrote: wtf is the range on BC blink
There is no range limit :D
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Wtf - isn't this the Terran version of the Protoss no-risk, no-skill spell Mass Recall, except without the need for a Nexus?
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I'm sure Templar would be proud.
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Poll: Recommend TY vs Soulkey Game 2?★ - Ugh, disgusting (0) 0% ★★ - Pretty meh (0) 0% ★★★ - It was alright (0) 0% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (3) 12% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (23) 88% 26 total votes Your vote: Recommend TY vs Soulkey Game 2? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
Poll: Recommend TY vs Soulkey Game 3?★ - Ugh, disgusting (2) 20% ★★ - Pretty meh (1) 10% ★★★ - It was alright (2) 20% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (5) 50% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend TY vs Soulkey Game 3? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
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Holyshit. BCs are viable now?
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Cool game, i think thats the first late game ZvT i have seen
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On December 23 2015 19:40 Ej_ wrote: wtf is the range on BC blink the map
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Sky Terran hasn't looked this good since WoL. Welcome back.
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So Soulkey lost this game because he thought that rushing to hive and ultras would just win the game.
GG TY.
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On December 23 2015 19:41 Calthrash wrote:There is no range limit :D who the fuck came up with this lol, i thought they had just straight up copied the blink from Starbow
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Also, BC blink is fantastic. I really want to see more of that.
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On December 23 2015 19:41 EatingBomber wrote: Wtf - isn't this the Terran version of the Protoss no-risk, no-skill spell Mass Recall, except without the need for a Nexus? it has no use in the game except when the terran is so ahead that he might just pump mass marines instead (and would be more effective doing so)
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Give me europeans please, watching this is just painful
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On December 23 2015 19:42 Ctesias wrote: Sky Terran hasn't looked this good since WoL. Welcome back. Wait until you see Broodlord Viper Infestor deathball...
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On December 23 2015 19:42 Ctesias wrote: Sky Terran hasn't looked this good since WoL. Welcome back. Watch INnoVation vs ByuL game 5
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On December 23 2015 19:42 Keeemy wrote: So Soulkey lost this game because he thought that rushing to hive and ultras would just win the game.
GG TY.
And forgot that Vipers exist.
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On December 23 2015 19:43 Nerchio wrote: Give me europeans please, watching this is just painful but you guys choke so hard offline
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On December 23 2015 19:42 Keeemy wrote: So Soulkey lost this game because he thought that rushing to hive and ultras would just win the game. Must've been dilligently studying what's being said on the forums.
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I love TY's unique style of semi-mech/semi-bio; I still think he'd win similarly even if Soulkey used Viper's. Also, this game really looked liked BW
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Hope Losira is secretly god-tier, but I expect ByuN will crush his head and eat it.
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So.. Will Losira finally be able to utilize his 800 APM? :O
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On December 23 2015 19:43 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:42 Keeemy wrote: So Soulkey lost this game because he thought that rushing to hive and ultras would just win the game.
GG TY. And forgot that Vipers exist. Yeah that too. He gave TY so much time when he just sat back with his ultras thinking they would win the game.
Before he even realized, TY had split the map and sieged with mass liberators.
And then he suicided.
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On December 23 2015 19:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Hope Losira is secretly god-tier, but I expect ByuN will crush his head and eat it. ByuN 2-0'd him in the SSL qualifier pretty easy.
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On December 23 2015 19:43 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:42 Ctesias wrote: Sky Terran hasn't looked this good since WoL. Welcome back. Watch INnoVation vs ByuL game 5 that game
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Anyways after this bad game now it's time for some Byun ownage. As a converted z->t player I'm looking forward to 10 drops on the map while separate rine groups clear up creep.
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Almost forgot Losira is now on KT. That feels kind of strange. I like Byun a lot though... who to cheer for?
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So is the ideal Zerg strategy now to stall and delay Terran tech with Roach-Ravager, before transitioning to Ultralisk-Cracking-Vipers-Corruptors?
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On December 23 2015 19:44 Video2000 wrote: So.. Will Losira finally be able to utilize his 800 APM? :O snute was hitting 1500 in HSC, so probably with the new update, at least 2500 APM from Losira :D
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On December 23 2015 19:45 Ctesias wrote: Almost forgot Losira is now on KT. That feels kind of strange. I like Byun a lot though... who to cheer for? The one who plays better in that case.
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On December 23 2015 19:43 Nerchio wrote: Give me Europeans please, watching this is just painful
But in 6 months time once the Koreans work it all out, they will be way ahead again.
Europeans never improve past where they are now do they?
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Just noticed there's a DingIt showmatch or something involving TaeJa... hasn't he retired?
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Is ByuN a real person, or is he just a myth? I need someone to confirm this by touching him to see if he's real and not just a hologram or something.
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On December 23 2015 19:46 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:45 Ctesias wrote: Almost forgot Losira is now on KT. That feels kind of strange. I like Byun a lot though... who to cheer for? The one who plays better in that case. Should've recruited Byun to KT instead and this would be easier.
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On December 23 2015 19:46 EatingBomber wrote: Just noticed there's a DingIt showmatch or something involving TaeJa... hasn't he retired? Apparently not, he also played in the SSL qualifiers but lost (I think 2-1 to TY).
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On December 23 2015 19:46 EatingBomber wrote: Just noticed there's a DingIt showmatch or something involving TaeJa... hasn't he retired? No, not yet. He even tried qualifying for SSL.
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On December 23 2015 19:47 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:46 EatingBomber wrote: Just noticed there's a DingIt showmatch or something involving TaeJa... hasn't he retired? Apparently not, he also played in the SSL qualifiers but lost (I think 2-1 to TY).
Hasn't he been retiring since 2013 or something
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On December 23 2015 19:46 EatingBomber wrote: Just noticed there's a DingIt showmatch or something involving TaeJa... hasn't he retired? Don't worry. He's been trolling us for years now about his retirement. He'll be around for a couple more.
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On December 23 2015 19:46 20-Minute-Jackal wrote: Is ByuN a real person, or is he just a myth? I need someone to confirm this by touching him to see if he's real and not just a hologram or something. byun is next gen virtual gaming idol aka D.Va It all makes sense now ><
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What was that song that just played? i think the artist was Alessia Cara
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On December 23 2015 19:46 EatingBomber wrote: Just noticed there's a DingIt showmatch or something involving TaeJa... hasn't he retired?
He tried in one of the qualifiers. Think he lost to SpeeD or something.
I saw State play him on stream, Taeja was protoss and died horribly. Haven't seen Taeja stream in a while either.
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On December 23 2015 19:43 Nerchio wrote: Give me europeans please, watching this is just painful hey european desrow
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On December 23 2015 19:45 EatingBomber wrote: So is the ideal Zerg strategy now to stall and delay Terran tech with Roach-Ravager, before transitioning to Ultralisk-Cracking-Vipers-Corruptors? Mix some broodlords cause they have uber range and infestors so ultras can't be kited and yes That's a lot of gas actually :D
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On December 23 2015 19:49 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:46 EatingBomber wrote: Just noticed there's a DingIt showmatch or something involving TaeJa... hasn't he retired? He tried in one of the qualifiers. Think he lost to SpeeD or something. I saw State play him on stream, Taeja was protoss and died horribly. Haven't seen Taeja stream in a while either. He lost to TY.
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On December 23 2015 19:43 Nerchio wrote: Give me europeans please, watching this is just painful You're welcome to travel to Korea and play yourself. Don't waste the privilege!
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No one escape Kespa Jail Don't lie!
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On December 23 2015 19:50 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:49 Phredxor wrote:On December 23 2015 19:46 EatingBomber wrote: Just noticed there's a DingIt showmatch or something involving TaeJa... hasn't he retired? He tried in one of the qualifiers. Think he lost to SpeeD or something. I saw State play him on stream, Taeja was protoss and died horribly. Haven't seen Taeja stream in a while either. He lost to TY.
How was the game?
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Artosis worse at guessing than the HSC Pictionary players
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On December 23 2015 19:45 Ctesias wrote: Almost forgot Losira is now on KT. That feels kind of strange. I like Byun a lot though... who to cheer for? lol same here
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On December 23 2015 19:51 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:50 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 19:49 Phredxor wrote:On December 23 2015 19:46 EatingBomber wrote: Just noticed there's a DingIt showmatch or something involving TaeJa... hasn't he retired? He tried in one of the qualifiers. Think he lost to SpeeD or something. I saw State play him on stream, Taeja was protoss and died horribly. Haven't seen Taeja stream in a while either. He lost to TY. How was the game? Not streamed.
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On December 23 2015 19:51 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:50 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 19:49 Phredxor wrote:On December 23 2015 19:46 EatingBomber wrote: Just noticed there's a DingIt showmatch or something involving TaeJa... hasn't he retired? He tried in one of the qualifiers. Think he lost to SpeeD or something. I saw State play him on stream, Taeja was protoss and died horribly. Haven't seen Taeja stream in a while either. He lost to TY. How was the game?
Wrong KT Terran
Wasn't streamed though.
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On December 23 2015 19:51 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:50 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 19:49 Phredxor wrote:On December 23 2015 19:46 EatingBomber wrote: Just noticed there's a DingIt showmatch or something involving TaeJa... hasn't he retired? He tried in one of the qualifiers. Think he lost to SpeeD or something. I saw State play him on stream, Taeja was protoss and died horribly. Haven't seen Taeja stream in a while either. He lost to TY. How was the game? Unstreamed I think (might be wrong) 2-1 score
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What was that cinematic problem Artosis and Valdes were talking about when the show resumed?
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On December 23 2015 19:52 EatingBomber wrote: What was that cinematic problem Artosis and Valdes were talking about when the show resumed? Something about 1 zealot's nerve cordes going a different direction than those of the other zealots.
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On December 23 2015 19:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:44 Video2000 wrote: So.. Will Losira finally be able to utilize his 800 APM? :O snute was hitting 1500 in HSC, so probably with the new update, at least 2500 APM from Losira :D Oh wow, I'm ready!
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On December 23 2015 19:52 EatingBomber wrote: What was that cinematic problem Artosis and Valdes were talking about when the show resumed? the energy in the zealot's khala hair thing went from back to front except in one zealot where it was reversed or something
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Stopping touhou music and unmuting stream -"Excrement" Back to touhou music
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On December 23 2015 19:52 EatingBomber wrote: What was that cinematic problem Artosis and Valdes were talking about when the show resumed?
When the Protoss slow-mo 'power up' with the Khala all of their braid thingys light up from bottom to top except for one guys' which goes the other way.
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On December 23 2015 19:53 HellHound wrote: Stopping touhou music and unmuting stream -"Excrement" Back to touhou music "Because ByuN means poop."
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ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far
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On December 23 2015 19:54 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:53 HellHound wrote: Stopping touhou music and unmuting stream -"Excrement" Back to touhou music "Because ByuN means poop."
NEX.Excretment never forget.
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Fuck it, I'm cheering for Byun because Terran. Sorry Losira.
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still weird thinking about KT Losira
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On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's
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On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Super late game TvZ with TY doing a slow turret/liberator crawl across the map. And then suddenly all Soulkey's air units died to liberators in hilarious fashion because no vipers and infestors.
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Those grenades looked like they helped the lings get the surround.
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Bad trade. Could've done so much more damage if he kept the reapers alive
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On December 23 2015 19:54 EatingBomber wrote: 3 Barracks Reaper, boys
Denied
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The classic 20 baneling bust.
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Someone needs to cue in the baneling song.
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soulkey losira bringing back the oldest trick in the book
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Byunjwa
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Poll: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 1?★ - Ugh, disgusting (1) 7% ★★ - Pretty meh (3) 20% ★★★ - It was alright (7) 47% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (3) 20% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 1? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
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I've seen ByuN do this build many times, other Terrans aswell, but rarely does it fail this hard.
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Losira has already learned something from his new teammate?
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On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died when Liberators annihilated his Corruptor blob.
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This is what happens every time I 3 rax reaper
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On December 23 2015 19:57 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
soulkey losira bringing back the oldest trick in the book A move corruptors into dying?
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On December 23 2015 19:58 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 1?★ - Ugh, disgusting (1) 7% ★★ - Pretty meh (3) 20% ★★★ - It was alright (7) 47% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (3) 20% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 1? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
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On December 23 2015 19:58 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died.
okay thanks. Gonna watch it later then.
On December 23 2015 19:56 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's
when you say it like that it doesn't sound nearly as cool xD
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On December 23 2015 19:58 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:57 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
soulkey losira bringing back the oldest trick in the book A move corruptors into dying? it was a baneling bust so i thought of soulkey, also was auto pilot
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On December 23 2015 19:58 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:57 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
soulkey losira bringing back the oldest trick in the book A move corruptors into dying? 2-base 20 baneling bust
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On December 23 2015 20:00 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:58 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died. okay thanks. Gonna watch it later then. Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:56 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's when you say it like that it doesn't sound nearly as cool xD yeah it was cool and then his corrupters got liberated because he didn't have vipers and then it was a slow 10 minute death animation imo
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On December 23 2015 20:00 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:58 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died. okay thanks. Gonna watch it later then. Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:56 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's when you say it like that it doesn't sound nearly as cool xD
Oops; Soulkey did managed to get many bases up, but TY constantly denied mining with numerous bio drops, to the point when Soulkey had less workers than TY; also, there were several big battles, and a notable one where most of Soulkey's airblob was annihilated.
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artosis isnt really up to date with current tvz it seems
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On December 23 2015 20:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:58 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 19:57 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
soulkey losira bringing back the oldest trick in the book A move corruptors into dying? 2-base 20 baneling bust It was soulkey when I snarked at it
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On December 23 2015 20:00 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:58 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died. okay thanks. Gonna watch it later then. Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:56 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's when you say it like that it doesn't sound nearly as cool xD Also Soulkey tried to nydus TY's main with ultras, but they all got liberated without getting anything done.
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Zzzzzzz 2 base-Mutalisks...
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Losira looking sharp
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did they totally miss that Byun scouted the continued gas mining and no third with the reaper? It looked a lot like Losira was going to do some kind of quick push, either few ravagers or a nydus, that's why he didn't build reactored hellions or a third
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On December 23 2015 20:04 Keeemy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:00 Yello wrote:On December 23 2015 19:58 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died. okay thanks. Gonna watch it later then. On December 23 2015 19:56 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's when you say it like that it doesn't sound nearly as cool xD Also Soulkey tried to nydus TY's main with ultras, but they all got liberated without getting anything done. "liberated" is my new favorite verb pertaining to a starcraft 2 unit
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On December 23 2015 20:02 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:00 Yello wrote:On December 23 2015 19:58 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died. okay thanks. Gonna watch it later then. On December 23 2015 19:56 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's when you say it like that it doesn't sound nearly as cool xD Oops; Soulkey did managed to get many bases up, but TY constantly denied mining with numerous bio drops, to the point when Soulkey had less workers than TY; also, there were several big battles, and a notable one where most of Soulkey's airblob was annihilated. You should make battle reports O.O you make that game sound much more interesting than it was :D Also I think you are giving a bit too much credit to TY Not that he didn't play well but Soulkey just got lost after ultras and botched a lot of stuff
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On December 23 2015 20:05 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:04 Keeemy wrote:On December 23 2015 20:00 Yello wrote:On December 23 2015 19:58 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died. okay thanks. Gonna watch it later then. On December 23 2015 19:56 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's when you say it like that it doesn't sound nearly as cool xD Also Soulkey tried to nydus TY's main with ultras, but they all got liberated without getting anything done. "liberated" is my new favorite verb pertaining to a starcraft 2 unit I will liberate your mineral lines with green acid
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Sry wasn't watching assuming it was 2 hatch muta (with fast 3rd maybe?) into roach?
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On December 23 2015 20:07 HellHound wrote: Sry wasn't watching assuming it was 2 hatch muta (with fast 3rd maybe?) into roach?
2-base Mutalisk with fast 3rd, and now a fast 4th.
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On December 23 2015 20:05 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:02 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 20:00 Yello wrote:On December 23 2015 19:58 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died. okay thanks. Gonna watch it later then. On December 23 2015 19:56 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's when you say it like that it doesn't sound nearly as cool xD Oops; Soulkey did managed to get many bases up, but TY constantly denied mining with numerous bio drops, to the point when Soulkey had less workers than TY; also, there were several big battles, and a notable one where most of Soulkey's airblob was annihilated. You should make battle reports O.O you make that game sound much more interesting than it was :D Also I think you are giving a bit too much credit to TY Not that he didn't play well but Soulkey just got lost after ultras and botched a lot of stuff Best moment of that game was all mutas, most corruptors and all BLs taking a straight-up fight against liberators and just disappearing within seconds.
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On December 23 2015 20:08 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:07 HellHound wrote: Sry wasn't watching assuming it was 2 hatch muta (with fast 3rd maybe?) into roach? 2-base Mutalisk with fast 3rd, and now a fast 4th. Thank you
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woah that combat shield is super late
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Can someone remind me again - why does Terran need an aerial Siege Tank that doubles as a Valkyrie, when we already have the Siege Tank itself, and Widow Mines?
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On December 23 2015 20:08 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:05 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:02 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 20:00 Yello wrote:On December 23 2015 19:58 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died. okay thanks. Gonna watch it later then. On December 23 2015 19:56 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's when you say it like that it doesn't sound nearly as cool xD Oops; Soulkey did managed to get many bases up, but TY constantly denied mining with numerous bio drops, to the point when Soulkey had less workers than TY; also, there were several big battles, and a notable one where most of Soulkey's airblob was annihilated. You should make battle reports O.O you make that game sound much more interesting than it was :D Also I think you are giving a bit too much credit to TY Not that he didn't play well but Soulkey just got lost after ultras and botched a lot of stuff Best moment of that game was all mutas, most corruptors and all BLs taking a straight-up fight against liberators and just disappearing within seconds. Would have been better if soulkey had 4 vipers 4 infestors and everything T died #Zergbias game still would have considered it a so-so game tho
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On December 23 2015 20:08 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:05 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:02 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 20:00 Yello wrote:On December 23 2015 19:58 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died. okay thanks. Gonna watch it later then. On December 23 2015 19:56 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's when you say it like that it doesn't sound nearly as cool xD Oops; Soulkey did managed to get many bases up, but TY constantly denied mining with numerous bio drops, to the point when Soulkey had less workers than TY; also, there were several big battles, and a notable one where most of Soulkey's airblob was annihilated. You should make battle reports O.O you make that game sound much more interesting than it was :D Also I think you are giving a bit too much credit to TY Not that he didn't play well but Soulkey just got lost after ultras and botched a lot of stuff Best moment of that game was all mutas, most corruptors and all BLs taking a straight-up fight against liberators and just disappearing within seconds. that and the bc's saying "fuck you" to the corrupters after sniping the main
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On December 23 2015 20:09 EatingBomber wrote: Can someone remind me again - why does Terran need an aerial Siege Tank that doubles as a Valkyrie, when we already have the Siege Tank itself, and Widow Mines? It's a flying thor not a flying tank get your facts straight :D It's cause adepts counter siege tanks so hialriously bad they can never be used to hold positons thus flying thors that can be reactored.
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Don't know what's going on with Byun. Nervous? He's never had this bad control in LotV.
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is it just me or does the stream look interlaced?
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On December 23 2015 20:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:08 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 20:05 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:02 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 20:00 Yello wrote:On December 23 2015 19:58 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died. okay thanks. Gonna watch it later then. On December 23 2015 19:56 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's when you say it like that it doesn't sound nearly as cool xD Oops; Soulkey did managed to get many bases up, but TY constantly denied mining with numerous bio drops, to the point when Soulkey had less workers than TY; also, there were several big battles, and a notable one where most of Soulkey's airblob was annihilated. You should make battle reports O.O you make that game sound much more interesting than it was :D Also I think you are giving a bit too much credit to TY Not that he didn't play well but Soulkey just got lost after ultras and botched a lot of stuff Best moment of that game was all mutas, most corruptors and all BLs taking a straight-up fight against liberators and just disappearing within seconds. that and the bc's saying "fuck you" to the corrupters after sniping the main
first good use of BCs and their teleport in a televised game? Definitely going to watch it!
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ByuN just wants to make this series exciting
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Too many ravagers for Losira imo. They die so fast.
E: Most of them already died.
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ByuN needs another base fast or he is going to be mined out
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hahaha Losira Fock this ravager shiet
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On December 23 2015 20:11 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 23 2015 20:08 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 20:05 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:02 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 20:00 Yello wrote:On December 23 2015 19:58 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Despite a 8:45 rush to Hive and Ultralisks, TY executed excellent harassment with WM/Marine drops, and proceeded into the extreme late game with mass Liberators and Ghosts, and performed a slow Missile Turret push across the middle map of the map; Soulkey had little gas for Vipers to destroy TY's airblob, while TY continued harassing, killing Drones and denying expansions, and eventually Soulkey died. okay thanks. Gonna watch it later then. On December 23 2015 19:56 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 19:55 Yello wrote: ah damnit I missed Ty vs Soulkey. What happened in game 2? That's the most recommended game in the polls that I've seen in LotV so far Get to ultras then sit on your ass until terran maxes on liberators splits the map with turrets then make no vipers or infesotrs and die Also some BC's when you say it like that it doesn't sound nearly as cool xD Oops; Soulkey did managed to get many bases up, but TY constantly denied mining with numerous bio drops, to the point when Soulkey had less workers than TY; also, there were several big battles, and a notable one where most of Soulkey's airblob was annihilated. You should make battle reports O.O you make that game sound much more interesting than it was :D Also I think you are giving a bit too much credit to TY Not that he didn't play well but Soulkey just got lost after ultras and botched a lot of stuff Best moment of that game was all mutas, most corruptors and all BLs taking a straight-up fight against liberators and just disappearing within seconds. that and the bc's saying "fuck you" to the corrupters after sniping the main first good use of BCs and their teleport in a televised game? Definitely going to watch it! the game was already over by that point it was more like LOL moment
im sure we'll see plenty of BM Battlecruisers in the future tho, THAT will be the good stuff in GSL and SPL
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Too many ravagers.
Losira's bank saved him. Panic mass lings to save the day
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Unsieging tanks instead of picking them up? So Wings of Liberty, ByuN.
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Where are the damned Ultralisks?
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a thor? what expansion is this?
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ByuN is on a clock here. Losira + cracklings could get nasty
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Lost way too many medivacs
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I rate this game as M, M for my god, why does it have to be like this
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Losira just rolled byun lol Life bunny is last match of the day right?
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This is fun day for zergs so many zvt replays to copy
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Wow, it seems I just tuned in to 0/3 liquibets lol
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On December 23 2015 20:16 HellHound wrote: Losira just rolled byun lol Life bunny is last match of the day right? yes
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Puppy terran lost
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Poll: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 2?★ - Ugh, disgusting (0) 0% ★★ - Pretty meh (2) 14% ★★★ - It was alright (4) 29% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (7) 50% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 2? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
Poll: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 3?★ - Ugh, disgusting (1) 11% ★★ - Pretty meh (1) 11% ★★★ - It was alright (1) 11% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (3) 33% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (3) 33% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 3? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
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Niiice. Losira crushed Byun.
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I must say this was really good game from LosirA, great defense, great composition... starting with Mutas to harass and deny drops, into 2-2 Roach Ravager army, into Ravagers, Lings, Banelings then back to mass Mutas and then going into Cracklings and Ultralisks. He had few bad engagements but overall it was really good.
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The fight in the middle of the map was way too bad for ByuN. No splits, unsieged tanks, etc.
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So this is the best Terran of LotV?
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Obligatory KEESSSSSSPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Losira played that well. Nice tech switches and he defended against the early drops near perfectly.
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On December 23 2015 20:17 Noonius wrote: KT is a beast of a team
Hahahaahahahahahahahahha
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Losira suddenly good again. KT-magic working again.
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On December 23 2015 20:17 EatingBomber wrote: So this is the best Terran of LotV?
That wasn't aLive.
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On December 23 2015 20:17 Elentos wrote: Obligatory KEESSSSSSPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
JAIL
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On December 23 2015 20:17 EatingBomber wrote: So this is the best Terran of LotV?
Not anymore, other koreans caught up.
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yeah Losira with a Kespa team is obviously more prepared than Byun
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On December 23 2015 20:16 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Poll: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 2?★ - Ugh, disgusting (0) 0% ★★ - Pretty meh (2) 14% ★★★ - It was alright (4) 29% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (7) 50% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 2? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
Poll: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 3?★ - Ugh, disgusting (1) 11% ★★ - Pretty meh (1) 11% ★★★ - It was alright (1) 11% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (3) 33% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (3) 33% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losira vs ByuN Game 3? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
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WTF is this song? Sounds too offensive for GSL breaks.
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Well, one thing certainly hasn't changed when Afreeca TV took over. The music in the breaks is still fucking terrible. Auto-muting that shit for 4-5 years now.
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On December 23 2015 20:18 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:17 EatingBomber wrote: So this is the best Terran of LotV? That wasn't aLive.
*Flash
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ByuN broke out of Kespajail, looks like the Kespapolice just apprehended him.
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On December 23 2015 20:19 20-Minute-Jackal wrote: ByuN broke out of Kespajail, looks like the Kespapolice just apprehended him. He's on a Chinese team, he has diplomatic KeSPA Jail immunity.
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Bunny - he's the CJ Entus guy who annihilated sOs with Widow Mines, correct?
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On December 23 2015 20:22 EatingBomber wrote: Bunny - he's the CJ Entus guy who annihilated sOs with Widow Mines, correct? Correct.
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On December 23 2015 20:22 EatingBomber wrote: Bunny - he's the CJ Entus guy who annihilated sOs with Widow Mines, correct? Yeah. Underrated player IMO.
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On December 23 2015 20:22 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:22 EatingBomber wrote: Bunny - he's the CJ Entus guy who annihilated sOs with Widow Mines, correct? Yeah. Underrated player IMO. Why would you say he is underrated
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Will Bunny upset Life again?! :o
On December 23 2015 20:23 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:22 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 20:22 EatingBomber wrote: Bunny - he's the CJ Entus guy who annihilated sOs with Widow Mines, correct? Yeah. Underrated player IMO. Why would you say he is underrated
He's had many stray moments of greatness. imo him and Salvation (Forte) are two Terrans to keep an eye on in the future. He's on the younger side as well, that tends to bode well in this scene.
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On December 23 2015 20:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Will Bunny upset Life again?! :o Nah. KT is on a streak today.
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On December 23 2015 20:23 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:22 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 20:22 EatingBomber wrote: Bunny - he's the CJ Entus guy who annihilated sOs with Widow Mines, correct? Yeah. Underrated player IMO. Why would you say he is underrated He's really good but forgettable. + Show Spoiler +
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Life on Prion Terraces.... Oh boy...
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On December 23 2015 20:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Will Bunny upset Life again?! :o Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:23 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 20:22 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 20:22 EatingBomber wrote: Bunny - he's the CJ Entus guy who annihilated sOs with Widow Mines, correct? Yeah. Underrated player IMO. Why would you say he is underrated He's had many stray moments of greatness. imo him and Salvation are two Terrans to keep an eye on in the future. He's on the younger side as well, that tends to bode well in this scene. Er... who's Salvation? I remember seeing his name in the Welcome to ZParcraft II article, but I haven't seen him anywhere recently
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In theory Life should just die now.
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Cant see Bunny winning this, this map alone is a loss for him
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3 Barracks Reaper again............................
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On December 23 2015 20:27 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Will Bunny upset Life again?! :o On December 23 2015 20:23 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 20:22 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 20:22 EatingBomber wrote: Bunny - he's the CJ Entus guy who annihilated sOs with Widow Mines, correct? Yeah. Underrated player IMO. Why would you say he is underrated He's had many stray moments of greatness. imo him and Salvation are two Terrans to keep an eye on in the future. He's on the younger side as well, that tends to bode well in this scene. Er... who's Salvation? I remember seeing his name in the Welcome to ZParcraft II article, but I haven't seen him anywhere recently He changed his ID to Forte.
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sometimes this game just disgusts me
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On December 23 2015 20:27 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Will Bunny upset Life again?! :o On December 23 2015 20:23 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 20:22 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 20:22 EatingBomber wrote: Bunny - he's the CJ Entus guy who annihilated sOs with Widow Mines, correct? Yeah. Underrated player IMO. Why would you say he is underrated He's had many stray moments of greatness. imo him and Salvation are two Terrans to keep an eye on in the future. He's on the younger side as well, that tends to bode well in this scene. Er... who's Salvation? I remember seeing his name in the Welcome to ZParcraft II article, but I haven't seen him anywhere recently Called forte atm
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oh i remember it was bunny that knocked life out of code a in 2014 i think? pretty sure his next tournament was winning blizzcon lol
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Hmm why that Gold from Life, its the worst one to defend isnt it?
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On December 23 2015 20:27 EatingBomber wrote: 3 Barracks Reaper again............................ The only builds on Prion vs Zerg for Terran that make sense are proxy reaper and 3-rax reaper tbh.
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Roach Warren coming down, and it's Life
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OP has "Ducks Towers" lol
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omg, it feels so good to be on holiday
LIFUUUU HYPE!!! Losira vs Byun earlier was also fantastic
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On December 23 2015 20:29 Inflicted wrote: OP has "Ducks Towers" lol LOL sorry i suck at this sometimes
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Btw, is the second entrance for Reapers at the back of the gold bases into the main on Prion Terraces - do people utilise that often?
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On December 23 2015 20:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote: oh i remember it was bunny that knocked life out of code a in 2014 i think? pretty sure his next tournament was winning blizzcon lol Not sure how much credit you can give bunny there considering on KSS Life made 2 pairs of evo chambers and used one of them to wall off behind his minerals so lings can't reach the drops in his nat :D
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On December 23 2015 20:30 EatingBomber wrote: Btw, is the second entrance for Reapers at the back of the gold bases into the main on Prion Terraces - do people utilise that often?
I've seen it a bit, yeah
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Shit the theory I guess Well Life never seemed like a guy who cared about the math much tho bunny didn't abuse the main to gold jump enough
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a bile - granate battle lol
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On December 23 2015 20:30 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote: oh i remember it was bunny that knocked life out of code a in 2014 i think? pretty sure his next tournament was winning blizzcon lol Not sure how much credit you can give bunny there considering on KSS Life made 2 pairs of evo chambers and used one of them to wall off behind his minerals so lings can't reach the drops in his nat :D that game was so fucking bad
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I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map
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Lol Bunny. That was awful.
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the reaper bomb sound more menacing that it actually. big boom, small damage
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that was a sick awp shot corosive bile
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Roach ravager at my door? Better keep making reapers
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I don't understand why he didnt abuse the highground between the gold and the main at all
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These fucking bombs making everything jump look super dumb -.-
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Poll: Recommend Bunny vs Life Game 1?★ - Ugh, disgusting (2) 15% ★★ - Pretty meh (2) 15% ★★★ - It was alright (7) 54% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (1) 8% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (1) 8% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bunny vs Life Game 1? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
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On December 23 2015 20:31 EatingBomber wrote: I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map Troll map for every MU ZvZ is normal bullshit on it I guess
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On December 23 2015 20:32 Noonius wrote: the reaper bomb sound more menacing that it actually. big boom, small damage It's just fireworks
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That game felt like a ling-bling ZvZ fight.
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On December 23 2015 20:31 EatingBomber wrote: I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map took you this long to realise? watch most protoss vs zerg on this map
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On December 23 2015 20:32 Noonius wrote: the reaper bomb sound more menacing that it actually. big boom, small damage Maybe they should switch the sound for the reaper bomb and Steady Targeting.
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On December 23 2015 20:33 MiniFotToss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:31 EatingBomber wrote: I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map took you this long to realise? watch most protoss vs zerg on this map PvP bullshit on it are also funny.
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so Life has managed to move from microing lings and winning in hots to microing ravages and winning in lotv. this does not bode well for people
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On December 23 2015 20:32 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:31 EatingBomber wrote: I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map Troll map for every MU ZvZ is normal bullshit on it I guess isn't ZvZ a coinflip with expand/gold/speedlings? how did ByuN lose to Losira btw? was afk
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On December 23 2015 20:32 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:31 EatingBomber wrote: I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map Troll map for every MU ZvZ is normal bullshit on it I guess
It's a complete coin flip map in ZvZ. Early pools hard counter gold expo first, which hard counters normal expo first, which soft counters early pools (if handled properly).
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Reapers have a shelve life that ends with Roaches\Raverger, what was Bunny thinking by keeping on making Reapers
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On December 23 2015 20:33 Noonius wrote: so Life has managed to move from microing lings and winning in hots to microing ravages and winning in lotv. this does not bode well for people
Can't take much from this game. Just poor play by Bunny.
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On December 23 2015 20:33 MiniFotToss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:31 EatingBomber wrote: I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map took you this long to realise? watch most protoss vs zerg on this map
The only matchup I ever seem to play on that one is TvT...
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On December 23 2015 20:34 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:32 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:31 EatingBomber wrote: I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map Troll map for every MU ZvZ is normal bullshit on it I guess isn't ZvZ a coinflip with expand/gold/speedlings? how did ByuN lose to Losira btw? was afk Tried 3-rax reaper, got countered and killed by 20 banelings. Tried a macro game, got outplayed.
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On December 23 2015 20:33 Noonius wrote: so Life has managed to move from microing lings and winning in hots to microing ravages and winning in lotv. this does not bode well for people
Life's Ravagers
Sound terrifying idd
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On December 23 2015 20:33 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:32 Noonius wrote: the reaper bomb sound more menacing that it actually. big boom, small damage Maybe they should switch the sound for the reaper bomb and Steady Targeting.
LOL this is actually hilarious
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On December 23 2015 20:33 Noonius wrote: so Life has managed to move from microing lings and winning in hots to microing ravages and winning in lotv. this does not bode well for people
The day Life becomes Molag Bal is the day non Life player stop winning tournaments.
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valdes mentioning the no name terran. get out, valdes
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On December 23 2015 20:34 Topdoller wrote: Reapers have a shelve life that ends with Roaches\Raverger, what was Bunny thinking by keeping on making Reapers "I AM MARINELORD!!!!!!"
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On December 23 2015 20:34 Topdoller wrote: Reapers have a shelve life that ends with Roaches\Raverger, what was Bunny thinking by keeping on making Reapers He only had barracks without addons. Reapers are better than marines in that situation.
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On December 23 2015 20:35 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:34 Topdoller wrote: Reapers have a shelve life that ends with Roaches\Raverger, what was Bunny thinking by keeping on making Reapers "I AM MARINELORD!!!!!!" Marinelord making Reapers???? should change ID into Reaperlord
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On December 23 2015 20:34 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:32 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:31 EatingBomber wrote: I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map Troll map for every MU ZvZ is normal bullshit on it I guess It's a complete coin flip map in ZvZ. Early pools hard counter gold expo first, which hard counters normal expo first, which soft counters early pools (if handled properly). Every map is a coin flip in zvz.
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On December 23 2015 20:36 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:34 heishe wrote:On December 23 2015 20:32 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:31 EatingBomber wrote: I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map Troll map for every MU ZvZ is normal bullshit on it I guess It's a complete coin flip map in ZvZ. Early pools hard counter gold expo first, which hard counters normal expo first, which soft counters early pools (if handled properly). Every map is a coin flip in zvz. yeah but isn't there more coinflip on a map where gold gives you the lovely rock/paper/scissors from BW ZvZ?
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Central protocol is such a rubbish map
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On December 23 2015 20:36 MiniFotToss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:35 Ej_ wrote:On December 23 2015 20:34 Topdoller wrote: Reapers have a shelve life that ends with Roaches\Raverger, what was Bunny thinking by keeping on making Reapers "I AM MARINELORD!!!!!!" Marinelord making Reapers???? should change ID into Reaperlord
Lel have you seen him play in WCS? Calls himself Marinelord... and goes mech.
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Dusk Towers and Orbital Shipyard are the Overgrowths, yes, but i wish they were a better and brighter tile set because the brighter tile sets are just more interesting and pleasing to look at.
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On December 23 2015 20:36 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:34 heishe wrote:On December 23 2015 20:32 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:31 EatingBomber wrote: I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map Troll map for every MU ZvZ is normal bullshit on it I guess It's a complete coin flip map in ZvZ. Early pools hard counter gold expo first, which hard counters normal expo first, which soft counters early pools (if handled properly). Every map is a coin flip in zvz.
I think pocket expansion maps are less of a coinflip. From my experience, you can go hatch first into baneling before speed and defend with a spine and two queens on the ramp.
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On December 23 2015 20:37 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:36 MiniFotToss wrote:On December 23 2015 20:35 Ej_ wrote:On December 23 2015 20:34 Topdoller wrote: Reapers have a shelve life that ends with Roaches\Raverger, what was Bunny thinking by keeping on making Reapers "I AM MARINELORD!!!!!!" Marinelord making Reapers???? should change ID into Reaperlord Lel have you seen him play in WCS? Calls himself Marinelord... and goes mech. yeah I know, irony, no?
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On December 23 2015 20:36 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:36 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:34 heishe wrote:On December 23 2015 20:32 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:31 EatingBomber wrote: I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map Troll map for every MU ZvZ is normal bullshit on it I guess It's a complete coin flip map in ZvZ. Early pools hard counter gold expo first, which hard counters normal expo first, which soft counters early pools (if handled properly). Every map is a coin flip in zvz. yeah but isn't there more coinflip on a map where gold gives you the lovely rock/paper/scissors from BW ZvZ? I think the worst one in terms of random chances is the map with backdoor rocks . Spawn locations decide eveything You can kill pool first builds with 13/13 on close positions easily you can hold it on the long one etc.
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so, who's gonna watch the Die Hard trilogy (lets face it, they only made 3 of them) this week? Since it's xmas time
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On December 23 2015 20:37 JazVM wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:36 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:34 heishe wrote:On December 23 2015 20:32 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:31 EatingBomber wrote: I have just finally realised the fundamental absurdity of this map Troll map for every MU ZvZ is normal bullshit on it I guess It's a complete coin flip map in ZvZ. Early pools hard counter gold expo first, which hard counters normal expo first, which soft counters early pools (if handled properly). Every map is a coin flip in zvz. I think pocket expansion maps are less of a coinflip. From my experience, you can go hatch first into baneling before speed and defend with a spine and two queens on the ramp. From my expirience you can just avoid the Tho verlord if they don't drone scout and kill them Then again I do speedling all in vs protoss on maps with pockets so maybe it's just me ?
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On December 23 2015 20:37 MiniFotToss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:37 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 20:36 MiniFotToss wrote:On December 23 2015 20:35 Ej_ wrote:On December 23 2015 20:34 Topdoller wrote: Reapers have a shelve life that ends with Roaches\Raverger, what was Bunny thinking by keeping on making Reapers "I AM MARINELORD!!!!!!" Marinelord making Reapers???? should change ID into Reaperlord Lel have you seen him play in WCS? Calls himself Marinelord... and goes mech. yeah I know, irony, no?
mindgames
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On December 23 2015 20:37 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Dusk Towers and Orbital Shipyard are the Overgrowths, yes, but i wish they were a better and brighter tile set because the brighter tile sets are just more interesting and pleasing to look at. I like the fact that with Dusk Towers we have a "standard" map with a darker tile set for once. The standard maps are usually pretty bright.
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On December 23 2015 20:37 MiniFotToss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:37 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 20:36 MiniFotToss wrote:On December 23 2015 20:35 Ej_ wrote:On December 23 2015 20:34 Topdoller wrote: Reapers have a shelve life that ends with Roaches\Raverger, what was Bunny thinking by keeping on making Reapers "I AM MARINELORD!!!!!!" Marinelord making Reapers???? should change ID into Reaperlord Lel have you seen him play in WCS? Calls himself Marinelord... and goes mech. yeah I know, irony, no? at least MarineKing was honest
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Btw guys, can someone tell me which maps are safe for CC first in TvP?
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On December 23 2015 20:39 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:37 MiniFotToss wrote:On December 23 2015 20:37 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 20:36 MiniFotToss wrote:On December 23 2015 20:35 Ej_ wrote:On December 23 2015 20:34 Topdoller wrote: Reapers have a shelve life that ends with Roaches\Raverger, what was Bunny thinking by keeping on making Reapers "I AM MARINELORD!!!!!!" Marinelord making Reapers???? should change ID into Reaperlord Lel have you seen him play in WCS? Calls himself Marinelord... and goes mech. yeah I know, irony, no? at least MarineKing was honest honest about the Expedition Lost game, right?
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On December 23 2015 20:39 EatingBomber wrote: Btw guys, can someone tell me which maps are safe for CC first in TvP? The hots ones? In hots?
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On December 23 2015 20:39 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:37 MiniFotToss wrote:On December 23 2015 20:37 EatingBomber wrote:On December 23 2015 20:36 MiniFotToss wrote:On December 23 2015 20:35 Ej_ wrote:On December 23 2015 20:34 Topdoller wrote: Reapers have a shelve life that ends with Roaches\Raverger, what was Bunny thinking by keeping on making Reapers "I AM MARINELORD!!!!!!" Marinelord making Reapers???? should change ID into Reaperlord Lel have you seen him play in WCS? Calls himself Marinelord... and goes mech. yeah I know, irony, no? at least MarineKing was honest You mean 3CCKing?
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My God, the greed in this game is disturbing
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On December 23 2015 20:40 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:39 EatingBomber wrote: Btw guys, can someone tell me which maps are safe for CC first in TvP? The hots ones? In hots? I think TY opened CC first on Prion Terraces.
In the game he lost to Lilbow's mass adept
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I miss the reactor medivac hellbat all-in, what a bitch to hold
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On December 23 2015 20:39 EatingBomber wrote: Btw guys, can someone tell me which maps are safe for CC first in TvP? Dusk Towers and Orbital Shipyard are kinda safe. Until you get pylon rushed.
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On December 23 2015 20:41 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:39 EatingBomber wrote: Btw guys, can someone tell me which maps are safe for CC first in TvP? Dusk Towers and Orbital Shipyard are kinda safe. Until you get pylon rushed. Why would you not get pylon rushed every game btw? What counters it
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haha I love we are at a part in this expansion where people fly their liberators into static d and die
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On December 23 2015 20:42 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:41 Elentos wrote:On December 23 2015 20:39 EatingBomber wrote: Btw guys, can someone tell me which maps are safe for CC first in TvP? Dusk Towers and Orbital Shipyard are kinda safe. Until you get pylon rushed. Why would you not get pylon rushed every game btw? What counters it
Speaking of which, 3 Barracks bio with quick Stim and Combat Shields with bottom ramp bunker is not bad against that
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That was quite the multitasking fail
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10 drones is good for z Edit : more like won't kill you rather than good :D
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Life in WoL: "fuck ur roaches ill play ling/bane" Life in HotS: "fuck ur roaches ill play ling/bane" Life in LotV: "did i fkn stutter"
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Welp Life is getting destroyed.
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Bunny playing some good TvZ
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Wow, Bunny is playing incredibly well
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I guess you have to play ravagers or you're dead?
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Stop stop he's already dead
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god it is so infuriating to play against this stuff
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Life has vastly faster upgrades though
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That's why I don't go ling/bane/muta in ZvT anymore
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why doesn't Life expand to the low ground regular fourth?
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On December 23 2015 20:46 EatingBomber wrote: Life has vastly faster upgrades though not like Bunny has to attack or like Life can attack
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This reminds me of ForGG vs Life Game 1 on not Deadwing but the other map at that time (with the back nat)
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Life got upgrades instead of units, don't they watch the production?
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On December 23 2015 20:46 Heartland wrote: why doesn't Life expand to the low ground regular fourth? no creep
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On December 23 2015 20:46 Ej_ wrote: I guess you have to play ravagers or you're dead? I think the super early upgrades with 10 drones losses took more out of his econ than we thought Guess it's cause of larva nerf but 10 drones hurt much more
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If bunny botches the next push he could still die
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On December 23 2015 20:47 EatingBomber wrote: Life can still win Lol we agree with each other a lot
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why isn't he making liberators vs mass muta
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These last few drops aren't very good.
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Bunny should get the medivac booster upgrade, if hes going to stay drop heavy
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bunny is gonna keep dropping until he loses the game
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Life gets denied his 4th almost as many times I do in the club
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On December 23 2015 20:48 HellHound wrote:Lol we agree with each other a lot
That seriously disturbs me as a Terran player
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On December 23 2015 20:47 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:46 Heartland wrote: why doesn't Life expand to the low ground regular fourth? no creep
Hmmkay
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LIFE JUST MAKE THE OTHER 4TH FFS
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On December 23 2015 20:48 xtorn wrote: bunny plays so damn well
FTFY
/Stannis the Mannis
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Ok lIfe should just die to 3/3 timings before ultras pop
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On December 23 2015 20:48 Ej_ wrote: why isn't he making liberators vs mass muta they agreed to play HotS for this game
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Poll: Recommend Bunny vs Life Game 2?★ - Ugh, disgusting (1) 6% ★★ - Pretty meh (0) 0% ★★★ - It was alright (3) 19% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (7) 44% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (5) 31% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bunny vs Life Game 2? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
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Excellent game. A real upset.
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On December 23 2015 20:48 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:48 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 20:47 EatingBomber wrote: Life can still win Lol we agree with each other a lot That seriously disturbs me as a Terran player Good.
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Why would one not make Ravagers in ZvT? They seem so good.
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the "?" bug is so fitting when Life taps out
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On December 23 2015 20:50 Ctesias wrote: Why would one not make Ravagers in ZvT? They seem so good.
On December 23 2015 20:43 Ej_ wrote: Life in WoL: "fuck ur roaches ill play ling/bane" Life in HotS: "fuck ur roaches ill play ling/bane" Life in LotV: "did i fkn stutter"
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omg Valdez cracked the ?? mystery
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On December 23 2015 20:50 Ctesias wrote: Why would one not make Ravagers in ZvT? They seem so good.
Not Life's preferred style I suppose
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Wonder what bunny is planning now Knowing Life it will probably be pretend macro into some all in with banes
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Life should have kept some units on the main it was getting dropped every minute.
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the ?? bug easily my favorite because it always looks like a perpetually confused korean wondering how the fuck he lost
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Can't the casters just say that Life got too man upgrades too quickly, not only too quick 1/1, he got 2/2 and other upgrades aswell.
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On December 23 2015 20:50 Ej_ wrote: the "?" bug is so fitting when Life taps out Life confused...... damn he in confused in himself, in Life..... How could Life lose???? + Show Spoiler +When it meets (Death) Bunny
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Back to the strat that failed horrible #logic
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On December 23 2015 20:51 SamuelGreen wrote: Can't the casters just say that Life got too man upgrades too quickly, not only too quick 1/1, he got 2/2 and other upgrades aswell. Think so too would have been fine if he didn't lose 10 drones but those together were too much. He still had a shot if he could hit a good timing at 2/2 (takes a fuck up from the T tho) but he missed his chance and rolled over
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Bunny wins a macro game on a map with a relativly hard 4th
so next game he opens with 3rax reaper
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On December 23 2015 20:53 Ej_ wrote: Bunny wins a macro game on a map with a relativly hard 4th
so next game he opens with 3rax reaper He must be learning from Life or something
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This map is terribad for reapers I think
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On December 23 2015 20:53 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 20:53 Ej_ wrote: Bunny wins a macro game on a map with a relativly hard 4th
so next game he opens with 3rax reaper He must be learning from Life or something Bunnyjwa
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did Life cancel speed?
e: yes he did, good
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I wanna see like a granade combo. Like 5 consecutive hits on one unit.
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On December 23 2015 20:55 JazVM wrote: I wanna see like a granade combo. Like 5 consecutive hits on one unit. only if the casters follow up with "WHERE YOU AT WHERE YOU AT"
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I'm getting a little sad with the amount of 3 rax reaper we are seeing. Terrans are relying way too much on that build against Zerg
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Transition from 3 rax to 5 rax reaper, wtf is that lol
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...why is he making ravagers
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On December 23 2015 20:56 Topdoller wrote: Transition from 3 rax to 5 rax reaper, wtf is that lol
3 isn't good enough?!
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This map is so broken for this strat, life can't move down the ramp
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On December 23 2015 20:56 Ej_ wrote: ...why is he making ravagers
Extra range, I guess
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On December 23 2015 20:56 Ej_ wrote: ...why is he making ravagers Roaches are slow and have less attack range I guess?
The thing is, he is really sloppy and lost 3 Ravagers already for like 2 Reapers which is really bad.
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On December 23 2015 20:55 Yello wrote: I'm getting a little sad with the amount of 3 rax reaper we are seeing. Terrans are relying way too much on that build against Zerg reminds me of when 2rax reaper was so popular last year (or was it this year can't remember)
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On December 23 2015 20:57 Ramiz1989 wrote:Roaches are slow and have less attack range I guess? The thing is, he is really sloppy and lost 3 Ravagers already for like 2 Reapers which is really bad. yeah that really put me off, he morphed most of the roaches in ravagers and then lost them to mines lol
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WHY ARE YOU STILL PLAYING LING BANE
LET IT GO
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On December 23 2015 20:56 Ej_ wrote: ...why is he making ravagers
I think the idea is that 4 ravagers can one-shot a reaper. So every time the terran pokes in he loses at least one reaper
roaches are better to push reapers away but they'll never be able to kill reapers against a good terran. Ravagers on the other hand are faster and have the damage to snipe reapers
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There is a lot of indirect damage from reapers. No creep no overlord speed. It's a big deal since drops will be very scary on this map
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this time I like the muta tech
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Bunny hasn't forgotten armory ofr 2/2 good If he did then Life would be back in this
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Life needs to block drops well and then he should be fine if he doesn't overdrone/tech for the 2/2 timing
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Of all Zergs today, LosirA looked like a really good one in ZvT, others are pretty mediocre or underwhelming.
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did life leave his base already this game?
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Note that bunny doesn't yolo boost saves it so he can run
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On December 23 2015 21:00 Tsubbi wrote: did life leave his base already this game? no, he's going full Scarlett
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Dammit, I was hoping "mutt mutt" would die with HotS. ;_;
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On December 23 2015 21:01 HellHound wrote: Note that bunny doesn't yolo boost saves it so he can run
As I say that he boosts in :D Tho that was a good use of it
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Ling bling bane is so bad right now, bye life
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Bunny is ahead in supply though
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Why is terran 40 supply up?
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Byun and Life losing, sad day bros.
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I find it really funny that Life cripples himself with awful simcity 2nd time against the same player
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Maru syle fock turrets vs muta
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On December 23 2015 21:02 JazVM wrote: Why is terran 40 supply up?
terran was constantly ahead in eco through the 3 rax opener
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On December 23 2015 21:02 Ej_ wrote: I find it really funny that Life cripples himself with awful simcity 2nd time against the same player You are wrong it's Bunny's skill making Life make mistakes :D
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he needs a hive and ultras
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On December 23 2015 21:02 JazVM wrote: Why is terran 40 supply up?
Larva nerf makes ling bling muta really bad
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"Life in commanding lead at the moment" while he is 30 supply behind the Terran, lol...
Economy-wise he is a bit ahead, but don't know how long that will last.
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LOL BUNNY BURNED ENTIRE ARMY BEFORE 3/3
edit: didn't matter I guess
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Ooh, those bane hits.. Not the best splitting.
This parade push isn't ending, though.
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Poll: Recommend Bunny vs Life Game 3?★ - Ugh, disgusting (0) 0% ★★ - Pretty meh (0) 0% ★★★ - It was alright (1) 9% ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (8) 73% ★★★★★ - That was amazing! (2) 18% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bunny vs Life Game 3? (Vote): ★ - Ugh, disgusting (Vote): ★★ - Pretty meh (Vote): ★★★ - It was alright (Vote): ★★★★ - Pretty darn good (Vote): ★★★★★ - That was amazing!
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That's why you watch out for Bunny
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Bunny has this, Life is crumbling.....gg
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omg, Bunny is an absolute beast
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 1 -3 in Liquidbets today
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I love how artosis says Life is on the lead while bunny is 30 supply ahead.
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On December 23 2015 21:03 Ramiz1989 wrote: "Life in commanding lead at the moment" while he is 30 supply behind the Terran, lol...
Economy-wise he is a bit ahead, but don't know how long that will last. Mules means he isn't 50 scv 62 drones
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I don't know what I think of the viability of ling/muta after the series. Also, I think that 3 rax reaper is a great opener.
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On December 23 2015 21:05 Arvendilin wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 1 -3 in Liquidbets today you and me
Hurricane only one to save me
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On December 23 2015 21:04 Keeemy wrote: What a shit day 0/4 bets lol
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On December 23 2015 21:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: That's why you watch out for Bunny Fluffy The Terrible.
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Aw, shucks.
Also, for the guys who wonder why Life made Ravagers: he did it to heal his Roaches that were on low health.
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On December 23 2015 21:05 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:03 Ramiz1989 wrote: "Life in commanding lead at the moment" while he is 30 supply behind the Terran, lol...
Economy-wise he is a bit ahead, but don't know how long that will last. Mules means he isn't 50 scv 62 drones He was 40 vs 60+ at the moment I've said that.
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On December 23 2015 21:06 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:05 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 21:03 Ramiz1989 wrote: "Life in commanding lead at the moment" while he is 30 supply behind the Terran, lol...
Economy-wise he is a bit ahead, but don't know how long that will last. Mules means he isn't 50 scv 62 drones He was 40 vs 60+ at the moment I've said that. After final ling counter?
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On December 23 2015 21:03 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:02 Ej_ wrote: I find it really funny that Life cripples himself with awful simcity 2nd time against the same player You are wrong it's Bunny's skill making Life make mistakes :D Putting on a lot of pressure tends to have that effect, yes .
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Life needs to start abusing the imba unit like he was in WoL, can't just live off LBM
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Oh well. 3 from 4 for Liquibets is something at least.
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On December 23 2015 21:05 Penev wrote:0/4 bets lol same haha, and after i was 7/7 on last weeks round of 8 onwards lol
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On December 23 2015 21:05 JazVM wrote: I don't know what I think of the viability of ling/muta after the series. Also, I think that 3 rax reaper is a great opener. Old LBM style isn't viable, you have to incorporate Roaches and Ravagers into that strategy same way LosirA did. I actually like it, even though Mutas are quite interesting units I don't want to see them so dominant that you have to make them every single game.
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Why are caster's so Protoss bias? Protoss is so clearly the strongest race, and yet we get this thinly veiled zerg balance whine.
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On December 23 2015 21:07 sibs wrote: Why are caster's so Protoss bias? Protoss is so clearly the strongest race, and yet we get this thinly veiled zerg balance whine. oh my god they were joking hahaha
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On December 23 2015 21:07 sibs wrote: Why are caster's so Protoss bias? Protoss is so clearly the strongest race, and yet we get this thinly veiled zerg balance whine. Uhhhhh what? O_o
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On December 23 2015 21:07 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:05 JazVM wrote: I don't know what I think of the viability of ling/muta after the series. Also, I think that 3 rax reaper is a great opener. Old LBM style isn't viable, you have to incorporate Roaches and Ravagers into that strategy same way LosirA did. I actually like it, even though Mutas are quite interesting units I don't want to see them so dominant that you have to make them every single game.
I think will you will see them every single game since otherwise it's impossible to shut down drops. I am no good player but I go roach/ravager with some mutas (under 10) just to deny drops since otherwise you have no tool against them. But that's just me.
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On December 23 2015 21:06 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:06 Ramiz1989 wrote:On December 23 2015 21:05 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 21:03 Ramiz1989 wrote: "Life in commanding lead at the moment" while he is 30 supply behind the Terran, lol...
Economy-wise he is a bit ahead, but don't know how long that will last. Mules means he isn't 50 scv 62 drones He was 40 vs 60+ at the moment I've said that. After final ling counter? Nah, I think that it was in between Muta harass and Ling counterattack when Valdes said that.
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On December 23 2015 21:08 JazVM wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:07 Ramiz1989 wrote:On December 23 2015 21:05 JazVM wrote: I don't know what I think of the viability of ling/muta after the series. Also, I think that 3 rax reaper is a great opener. Old LBM style isn't viable, you have to incorporate Roaches and Ravagers into that strategy same way LosirA did. I actually like it, even though Mutas are quite interesting units I don't want to see them so dominant that you have to make them every single game. I think will you will see them every single game since otherwise it's importan to shut down drops. I am no good player but I go roach/ravager with some mutas (under 10) just to deny drops since otherwise you have no tool against them. But that's just me. seems like you can just do the WoL thing and leave some roach/ling/ravager at home
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i just want lurkers to work vT.
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On December 23 2015 21:08 JazVM wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:07 Ramiz1989 wrote:On December 23 2015 21:05 JazVM wrote: I don't know what I think of the viability of ling/muta after the series. Also, I think that 3 rax reaper is a great opener. Old LBM style isn't viable, you have to incorporate Roaches and Ravagers into that strategy same way LosirA did. I actually like it, even though Mutas are quite interesting units I don't want to see them so dominant that you have to make them every single game. I think will you will see them every single game since otherwise it's importan to shut down drops. I am no good player but I go roach/ravager with some mutas (under 10) just to deny drops since otherwise you have no tool against them. But that's just me. I don't have problem seeing them like that, to deny drops and harass a little bit, but too many games in HotS were revolving around building up a huge Muta flock, and I am happy that it isn't like that every single game now.
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Overall a pretty good day of Starcraft. TY looking great, Losira a pleasant surprise, but shame about Life. It's a comfort knowing he will always come back, though.
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On December 23 2015 21:10 Wintex wrote: i just want lurkers to work vT.
I think it would be so cool if u could use them as an early defense but it's impossible since they take such a long time to get. It's understandable since otherwise they would be too strong offensively. It would be cool to toy around with a lurker that can only burrow on creep or something but then reduce the time to get it a lot.
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On December 23 2015 21:10 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:08 JazVM wrote:On December 23 2015 21:07 Ramiz1989 wrote:On December 23 2015 21:05 JazVM wrote: I don't know what I think of the viability of ling/muta after the series. Also, I think that 3 rax reaper is a great opener. Old LBM style isn't viable, you have to incorporate Roaches and Ravagers into that strategy same way LosirA did. I actually like it, even though Mutas are quite interesting units I don't want to see them so dominant that you have to make them every single game. I think will you will see them every single game since otherwise it's importan to shut down drops. I am no good player but I go roach/ravager with some mutas (under 10) just to deny drops since otherwise you have no tool against them. But that's just me. I don't have problem seeing them like that, to deny drops and harass a little bit, but too many games in HotS were revolving around building up a huge Muta flock, and I am happy that it isn't like that every single game now. Probly won't see too much were used too much in hots cause hive was crap
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On December 23 2015 21:11 Ctesias wrote: Overall a pretty good day of Starcraft. TY looking great, Losira a pleasant surprise, but shame about Life. It's a comfort knowing he will always come back, though. Yeah I agree, we can finally see some high level LotV and even though some of the players look a bit lost, this is only a beginning. Most of the games are cool and exciting, at least in my opinion.
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On December 23 2015 21:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:07 sibs wrote: Why are caster's so Protoss bias? Protoss is so clearly the strongest race, and yet we get this thinly veiled zerg balance whine. oh my god they were joking hahaha
Not talking just about today, but today they definitely "whined" about zerg the most today, not even a peep about the PvT which was pretty disgusting, we had some ultralisk whine how they were OP something something, but WP + Adept is totally fine.
When they cast anything with protoss they basically commentate from the protoss perspective, watch the last GSL quali playoffs.
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On December 23 2015 21:13 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:11 Ctesias wrote: Overall a pretty good day of Starcraft. TY looking great, Losira a pleasant surprise, but shame about Life. It's a comfort knowing he will always come back, though. Yeah I agree, we can finally see some high level LotV and even though some of the players look a bit lost, this is only a beginning. Most of the games are cool and exciting, at least in my opinion. I think game has very blatant issue at the moment that will ruin it if given time but that it has a lot of potential if it's cleaned up a bit Fuck games looking fun go ladder, they are fun
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On December 23 2015 21:15 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:13 Ramiz1989 wrote:On December 23 2015 21:11 Ctesias wrote: Overall a pretty good day of Starcraft. TY looking great, Losira a pleasant surprise, but shame about Life. It's a comfort knowing he will always come back, though. Yeah I agree, we can finally see some high level LotV and even though some of the players look a bit lost, this is only a beginning. Most of the games are cool and exciting, at least in my opinion. I think game has very blatant issue at the moment that will ruin it if given time but that it has a lot of potential if it's cleaned up a bit Fuck games looking fun go ladder, they are fun Are you on the phone by any chance?
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On December 23 2015 21:17 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:15 HellHound wrote:On December 23 2015 21:13 Ramiz1989 wrote:On December 23 2015 21:11 Ctesias wrote: Overall a pretty good day of Starcraft. TY looking great, Losira a pleasant surprise, but shame about Life. It's a comfort knowing he will always come back, though. Yeah I agree, we can finally see some high level LotV and even though some of the players look a bit lost, this is only a beginning. Most of the games are cool and exciting, at least in my opinion. I think game has very blatant issue at the moment that will ruin it if given time but that it has a lot of potential if it's cleaned up a bit Fuck games looking fun go ladder, they are fun Are you on the phone by any chance? On my laptop at work Constant editing is more of a bad habbit of mine
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On December 23 2015 21:15 sibs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 23 2015 21:07 sibs wrote: Why are caster's so Protoss bias? Protoss is so clearly the strongest race, and yet we get this thinly veiled zerg balance whine. oh my god they were joking hahaha Not talking just about today, but today they definitely "whined" about zerg the most today, not even a peep about the PvT which was pretty disgusting, we had some ultralisk whine how they were OP something something, but WP + Adept is totally fine. When they cast anything with protoss they basically commentate from the protoss perspective, watch the last GSL quali playoffs.
Having just watched the VODs, unless it happened right after the gg of the final match, I can say that's not true. The only "whine" that came into play was about Parasitic Bomb, and that "Holy shit Liberators why are Terrans whining!" from Artosis before he remembered Parasitic Bomb existed.
Either way, pretty good games from TY, but hard to decide if it's a valid enough strategy since Vipers and Infestors weren't made when Soulkey had all the time in the world for them.
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Are CJ terrans Life's kryptonite? lol
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Italy2575 Posts
...btw iirc I got a nice 0 out of 4 for the liquidbets today...
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On December 23 2015 21:55 CynicalDeath wrote:...btw iirc I got a nice 0 out of 4 for the liquidbets today... 2/4, too much faith in ByuN and Life.
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Interesting results. From reading the thread it seems like we haven't seen textbook-play in all situations yet so it's kinds hard to determine if a particular unit is too strong in certain situations, except maybe the Adept PvT.
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I wanted to watch so badly today and yeah i couldn't -.- Did i miss any good games?
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How come ro16 is now when the grand finals was played in the 18th? I haven't really been following (they are slow on the YT uploads), so what's deal here?
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On December 23 2015 23:26 cheekymonkey wrote: How come ro16 is now when the grand finals was played in the 18th? I haven't really been following (they are slow on the YT uploads), so what's deal here?
This is week 2. The 18th was the grand finals for week 1
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On December 23 2015 23:33 KatatoniK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 23:26 cheekymonkey wrote: How come ro16 is now when the grand finals was played in the 18th? I haven't really been following (they are slow on the YT uploads), so what's deal here? This is week 2. The 18th was the grand finals for week 1
Lol, so how many preseason grand finals will there be before the season starts?
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On December 23 2015 23:39 cheekymonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 23:33 KatatoniK wrote:On December 23 2015 23:26 cheekymonkey wrote: How come ro16 is now when the grand finals was played in the 18th? I haven't really been following (they are slow on the YT uploads), so what's deal here? This is week 2. The 18th was the grand finals for week 1 Lol, so how many preseason grand finals will there be before the season starts? Just these 2.
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On December 23 2015 23:14 The_Red_Viper wrote: I wanted to watch so badly today and yeah i couldn't -.- Did i miss any good games? Watch LosirA vs. Byun game 2, it was in my opinion the best game of the day.
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On December 23 2015 21:15 sibs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 23 2015 21:07 sibs wrote: Why are caster's so Protoss bias? Protoss is so clearly the strongest race, and yet we get this thinly veiled zerg balance whine. oh my god they were joking hahaha Not talking just about today, but today they definitely "whined" about zerg the most today, not even a peep about the PvT which was pretty disgusting, we had some ultralisk whine how they were OP something something, but WP + Adept is totally fine. When they cast anything with protoss they basically commentate from the protoss perspective, watch the last GSL quali playoffs. And almost all of HotS it has been the other way around with them casting from the Terran perspective in TvP and from the Zerg perspective in PvZ, now you know how that feels ;-;
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On December 24 2015 00:40 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 21:15 sibs wrote:On December 23 2015 21:08 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 23 2015 21:07 sibs wrote: Why are caster's so Protoss bias? Protoss is so clearly the strongest race, and yet we get this thinly veiled zerg balance whine. oh my god they were joking hahaha Not talking just about today, but today they definitely "whined" about zerg the most today, not even a peep about the PvT which was pretty disgusting, we had some ultralisk whine how they were OP something something, but WP + Adept is totally fine. When they cast anything with protoss they basically commentate from the protoss perspective, watch the last GSL quali playoffs. And almost all of HotS it has been the other way around with them casting from the Terran perspective in TvP and from the Zerg perspective in PvZ, now you know how that feels ;-;
Are you talking about Tastosis? Cause Artosis is pretty much in love with the race. He has always been, and definitely focuses on the Protoss perspective. As far as Proleague casters go, Moonglade is a Zerg player at heart, and will definitely take the Z perspective of things in a TvZ.
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Just listening to Valdez cast in the last game... it wasn't pretty: "Commanding lead for Life", while he is behind 140 to 180 supply w/ tier 2 tech.
And then he went on and on about how Bunny should have targetted the 4th. No he shouldn't. Why would he do that when he could get a super efficient trade with presplit units?
And those Mutalisks of Life were never going to be any threat. His own production would eventually deal with them while they dealt minimum damage.
Overall - not just in this cast- Valdez just says alot of stuff which shows he doesn't understand the game. I also dislike when casters do minimum research beforehand. For instance if you know that you are going to cast a TvZ with Byun and there are a tons of vods with him in that matchup in LOTV, why not just watch a few of them beforehand to see how he plays?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 23 2015 19:51 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 19:43 Nerchio wrote: Give me europeans please, watching this is just painful You're welcome to travel to Korea and play yourself. Don't waste the privilege!
show the Koreans what for!
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On December 24 2015 00:27 The_Templar wrote: 0/4 liquibets... <.<
People picked Soulkey?
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On December 24 2015 00:27 The_Templar wrote: 0/4 liquibets... <.<
People picked Life?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 24 2015 02:39 chipmonklord17 wrote:People picked Soulkey?
sOs said he's the best Zerg or 2nd best Zerg in LotV.
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3/4 for me, only ByuN disappointed. Losira played smartly after being "gifted" the reapers with a baneling bust, it was the first time I had seen that kind of response to a 3 rax. Hurricane was a no brainer. He looked very adept (: at dispatching terrans while Reality looked shaky in TvP. Bunny vs Life was pretty straightforward, Bunny showed good TvZ and Life was an unknown factor and probably trained for hots for a long time. Soulkey vs TY was the hardest choice, while TY did not particularly impress me in TvZ, Soulkey loss against Bunny pushed the balance in favour of TY.
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United States97250 Posts
Byun just 2-0d Losira the other day in SSL qualifiers. Thought he would handle him again. too bad
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Life failed me in Liquibets. But if I didn't vote with my KT bias I would have gotten Losira wrong anyways
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Looking around - are there VODs for these games?
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Hey like the new format for recommended games. Less scrolling!!!
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On December 24 2015 10:41 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote: Hey like the new format for recommended games. Less scrolling!!! that just accidentally happens, i sometimes just put the polls in one string and sometimes they just do that
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