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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1VFGBlP.jpg) Thursday, Dec 17 10:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Pre-Season/Week_1
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 herO vs  Sorry
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 ByuL vs Forte
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Dark vs Life
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Reality vs Zest
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Poll: Recommend Dark vs Life Game 2Good Game (5) 56% Meh Game (3) 33% Excellent Game (1) 11% Bad Game (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Life Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Dark vs Life Game 3Excellent Game (2) 50% Meh Game (2) 50% Good Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dark vs Life Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Reality vs Zest Game 1Meh Game (3) 38% Excellent Game (2) 25% Bad Game (2) 25% Good Game (1) 13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Reality vs Zest Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Reality vs Zest Game 2Good Game (5) 83% Excellent Game (1) 17% Meh Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Reality vs Zest Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Reality vs Zest Game 3Meh Game (7) 78% Good Game (2) 22% Excellent Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Reality vs Zest Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend herO vs Sorry Game 1Good Game (5) 50% Excellent Game (2) 20% Bad Game (2) 20% Meh Game (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Sorry Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend herO vs Sorry Game 2Meh Game (4) 40% Bad Game (4) 40% Excellent Game (1) 10% Good Game (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Sorry Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend ByuL vs Forte Game 1Good Game (5) 83% Meh Game (1) 17% Excellent Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Forte Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Dark vs LifeLife Wins (17) 61% Dark Wins (11) 39% 28 total votes Your vote: Dark vs Life (Vote): Dark Wins
(Vote): Life Wins
Poll: Reality vs ZestZest Wins (20) 80% Reality Wins (5) 20% 25 total votes Your vote: Reality vs Zest (Vote): Reality Wins
(Vote): Zest Wins
Poll: herO vs SorryherO Wins (17) 81% Sorry Wins (4) 19% 21 total votes Your vote: herO vs Sorry (Vote): herO Wins
(Vote): Sorry Wins
Poll: ByuL vs ForteByuL Wins (17) 74% Forte Wins (6) 26% 23 total votes Your vote: ByuL vs Forte (Vote): ByuL Wins
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Note the later start time tomorrow, S2SL qualifiers are all morning and afternoon so GSL will start later at 10:30 GMT (+00:00) due to this.
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On December 16 2015 20:55 Pandemona wrote:
Note the later start time tomorrow, S2SL qualifiers are all morning and afternoon so GSL will start later at 10:30 GMT (+00:00) due to this.
And the S2SL qualifiers will also be streamed (at least in part)! A good week for Starcraft.
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It all will be that LR is coming up now
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byul vs life finals, #yearofzerg begins
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WCS Predictor 2016
GSL Preseason 1 Quarterfinals   Life vs Dark in in GSL Preseason 1 quarterfinals. Life has the #2 Headband. Life is at 50.7% Blizzcon Chances, with a 51.45% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 52.3%, or 49.01% if they lose. Dark is at 52.44% Blizzcon Chances, with a 48.55% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 54.14%, or 50.83% if they lose.  Reality vs  Zest in in GSL Preseason 1 quarterfinals. Reality is at 25.27% Blizzcon Chances, with a 48.52% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 26.27%, or 24.33% if they lose. Zest is at 38.98% Blizzcon Chances, with a 51.48% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 40.31%, or 37.57% if they lose. herO vs Sorry in in GSL Preseason 1 quarterfinals. herO is at 49.84% Blizzcon Chances, with a 66.38% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 50.91%, or 47.71% if they lose. Sorry is at 3.02% Blizzcon Chances, with a 33.62% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 3.28%, or 2.89% if they lose. ByuL vs Forte in in GSL Preseason 1 quarterfinals. ByuL is at 38.48% Blizzcon Chances, with a 63.71% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 39.42%, or 36.82% if they lose. Forte is at 2.46% Blizzcon Chances, with a 36.29% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 2.64%, or 2.36% if they lose. + Show Spoiler [Winning Chances] + herO has a 20.72% chance to win ----going from 49.84% to 58.17% if they get 1st, or 47.66% if they don't. ByuL has a 16.28% chance to win ----going from 38.48% to 47.15% if they get 1st, or 36.79% if they don't. Life has a 16.21% chance to win ----going from 50.7% to 59.3% if they get 1st, or 49.04% if they don't. Dark has a 15.56% chance to win ----going from 52.44% to 61.19% if they get 1st, or 50.82% if they don't. Zest has a 12.76% chance to win ----going from 38.98% to 48.43% if they get 1st, or 37.6% if they don't. Reality has a 9.97% chance to win ----going from 25.27% to 33.67% if they get 1st, or 24.34% if they don't. Sorry has a 4.36% chance to win ----going from 3.02% to 5.77% if they get 1st, or 2.9% if they don't. Forte has a 4.13% chance to win ----going from 2.46% to 5.04% if they get 1st, or 2.35% if they don't.
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On December 16 2015 21:11 brickrd wrote:
byul vs life finals, #yearofzerg begins
I can get behind this.
Fitting it should be between the zerg heroes of 2015
Interested to see if ByuL's god-tier ZvT has carried over.
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Life < Dark
herO > Sorry
Reality > Zest
ByuL < Forte
Feels very strange predicting two Terrans to win, against Zest and ByuL no less, but Forte looked really solid and PvT has always been Zest's weakest MU so I think he'll have trouble pushing all of P's early game advantages to the max.
Life's cheesy openers didn't inspire a lot of faith, I think Dark will hold them off np.
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Ok GSL is starting soon haha, mad dash from S2SL to get home and online to play xD
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On December 17 2015 19:31 Pandemona wrote:
Ok GSL is starting soon haha, mad dash from S2SL to get home and online to play xD
Dark's the last one there and he still has a match in the loser bracket. Maybe they'll let him play from there 
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Guess that solves Dark's problem xD
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Is the sound a little low quality, especially for Tasteless?
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On December 17 2015 20:01 shabby wrote:
Is the sound a little low quality, especially for Tasteless?
yeah, sounds like something is wrong with tasteless' mic
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On December 17 2015 19:55 Pandemona wrote:
Guess that solves Dark's problem xD
Well GSL has started while Dark has to first wait for his opponent and then wait for the cast of his series to start.
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Get to watch a bit in my lunch break but will have to follow the LR for the rest due to work. I hope we get a good ZvZ I like Dark and Life
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Ok herO needs a nerf wtf looks crazy good
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Jesus herO is so fucking good at this.
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Protoss seems to expand so fast these days
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oh god herO please don't do this. It hurts my Terran heart to watch Sorry abused like that
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Alright I'm gonna make more adepts in PvT ;r
This looks insane
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That Adept ring-around-the-rosey herO was playing in Sorry's base while microing his Phoenixes is damn impressive. OP as fuck, but damn impressive to see nonetheless.
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Required exactly 0 AoE to win.
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The phoenixes did so much work too, I love it.
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Poll: Recommend herO vs Sorry Game 1Good Game (5) 50% Excellent Game (2) 20% Bad Game (2) 20% Meh Game (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Sorry Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Obviously they need to give Marines splash damage to deal with mass adepts
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On December 17 2015 20:19 Fyzar wrote:
The phoenixes did so much work too, I love it.
Phoenix are my favourite protoss unit, it feels like you can always use them
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On December 17 2015 20:21 VmY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:19 Fyzar wrote:
The phoenixes did so much work too, I love it. Phoenix are my favourite protoss unit, it feels like you can always use them
Good old times in WoL when the answer to a protoss going phoenix was "just go kill him" because he couldn't possible get a ground army to defend while going stargate :D
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On December 17 2015 20:21 VmY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:19 Fyzar wrote:
The phoenixes did so much work too, I love it. Phoenix are my favourite protoss unit, it feels like you can always use them
Man phoenixes being so cool is always my downfall, I just keep making them and eventually die because I have too many ^^.
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Im glad that didn't work haha
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Does stasis ward block an expo?
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On December 17 2015 20:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Does stasis ward block an expo?
Yes.
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On December 17 2015 20:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Does stasis ward block an expo?
Yeap.
And then the unit that gets trapped blocks it too :D
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On December 17 2015 20:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Does stasis ward block an expo?
yes. Also blocks it even further when it goes off and catches a unit there
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On December 17 2015 20:25 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Does stasis ward block an expo? Yes.
Damn, oracles can deny expos now. Thats crazy
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On December 17 2015 20:22 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:21 VmY wrote:On December 17 2015 20:19 Fyzar wrote:
The phoenixes did so much work too, I love it. Phoenix are my favourite protoss unit, it feels like you can always use them Man phoenixes being so cool is always my downfall, I just keep making them and eventually die because I have too many ^^.
I know that feeling all to well when offracing as P. The awnser to everything is always more phoenix. Except when it isn´t.
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herO just seems super on point in this matchup, I'm definitely gonna try to incorporate the phoenixes as well.
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On December 17 2015 20:26 VmY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:22 Fyzar wrote:On December 17 2015 20:21 VmY wrote:On December 17 2015 20:19 Fyzar wrote:
The phoenixes did so much work too, I love it. Phoenix are my favourite protoss unit, it feels like you can always use them Man phoenixes being so cool is always my downfall, I just keep making them and eventually die because I have too many ^^. I know that feeling all to well when offracing as P. The awnser to everything is always more phoenix. Except when it isn´t.
Sounds like me when I try my hand at Terran. More marines!!
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Lessons learned as a terran: Oh god do not let this warp prism deploy.
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That phoenix/warp prism combo is so silly. You can't even build anything to kill the prism -.-
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Poll: Recommend herO vs Sorry Game 2Meh Game (4) 40% Bad Game (4) 40% Excellent Game (1) 10% Good Game (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Sorry Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend herO vs Sorry Game 3Excellent Game (3) 60% Meh Game (1) 20% Bad Game (1) 20% Good Game (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs Sorry Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Only ByuN can stop herO now
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On December 17 2015 20:28 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:26 VmY wrote:On December 17 2015 20:22 Fyzar wrote:On December 17 2015 20:21 VmY wrote:On December 17 2015 20:19 Fyzar wrote:
The phoenixes did so much work too, I love it. Phoenix are my favourite protoss unit, it feels like you can always use them Man phoenixes being so cool is always my downfall, I just keep making them and eventually die because I have too many ^^. I know that feeling all to well when offracing as P. The awnser to everything is always more phoenix. Except when it isn´t. Sounds like me when I try my hand at Terran. More marines!!
When I went from Z to Random it took me so long to actually figure out Marauders, Medivacs, and all supporting shit is WAY more important than Marines xD
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On December 17 2015 20:28 Elentos wrote:
That phoenix/warp prism combo is so silly. You can't even build anything to kill the prism -.-
Thors 
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herO the new PvT god? I wonder who got possible take him on. TY made a good effort at least but even he looked rather helpless
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On December 17 2015 20:29 Inflicted wrote:
Only ByuN can stop herO now
Haha, imo herO is miles ahead of anyone i have seen so far. However i have not seen everyone yet xD
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On December 17 2015 20:29 SC2Toastie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:28 Fyzar wrote:On December 17 2015 20:26 VmY wrote:On December 17 2015 20:22 Fyzar wrote:On December 17 2015 20:21 VmY wrote:On December 17 2015 20:19 Fyzar wrote:
The phoenixes did so much work too, I love it. Phoenix are my favourite protoss unit, it feels like you can always use them Man phoenixes being so cool is always my downfall, I just keep making them and eventually die because I have too many ^^. I know that feeling all to well when offracing as P. The awnser to everything is always more phoenix. Except when it isn´t. Sounds like me when I try my hand at Terran. More marines!! When I went from Z to Random it took me so long to actually figure out Marauders, Medivacs, and all supporting shit is WAY more important than Marines xD
Oh no dude, just build more marines. This dude on the ladder told me it's all terran needs.
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On December 17 2015 20:29 Alchemik wrote:
who the fuck is Forte
MVP Salvation aka Salvation Prime
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On December 17 2015 20:29 Alchemik wrote:
who the fuck is Forte
Salvation.
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On December 17 2015 20:29 Alchemik wrote:
who the fuck is Forte
Salvation
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What happened? I missed this stream
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On December 17 2015 20:30 Elentos wrote:Salvation.
who the fuck is Salvation
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On December 17 2015 20:29 Alchemik wrote:
who the fuck is Forte
Salvation
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On December 17 2015 20:30 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:30 Elentos wrote:On December 17 2015 20:29 Alchemik wrote:
who the fuck is Forte Salvation. who the fuck is Salvation
Forte.
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On December 17 2015 20:30 Damnitmynameistaken wrote:
What happened? I missed this stream
It just started, herO 2-0 Sorry pretty good beat down from herO. 3 more games to go
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On December 17 2015 20:30 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:30 Elentos wrote:On December 17 2015 20:29 Alchemik wrote:
who the fuck is Forte Salvation. who the fuck is Salvation
That guy that nuked fantasy in that one proleague game.
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On December 17 2015 20:31 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:30 Alchemik wrote:On December 17 2015 20:30 Elentos wrote:On December 17 2015 20:29 Alchemik wrote:
who the fuck is Forte Salvation. who the fuck is Salvation Forte.
HAHAHA xD
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On December 17 2015 20:29 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:28 Elentos wrote:
That phoenix/warp prism combo is so silly. You can't even build anything to kill the prism -.- Thors
Yeah I guess you could rush out a thor. Makes sense. It takes 9 years to kill the warp prism but it doesn't die to anything warped in.
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On December 17 2015 20:31 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:30 Alchemik wrote:On December 17 2015 20:30 Elentos wrote:On December 17 2015 20:29 Alchemik wrote:
who the fuck is Forte Salvation. who the fuck is Salvation Forte.
ah thanks, knew I could count on you
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On December 17 2015 20:32 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:31 Musicus wrote:On December 17 2015 20:30 Alchemik wrote:On December 17 2015 20:30 Elentos wrote:On December 17 2015 20:29 Alchemik wrote:
who the fuck is Forte Salvation. who the fuck is Salvation Forte. ah thanks, knew I could count on you
np, always glad to help
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On December 17 2015 20:30 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:30 Elentos wrote:On December 17 2015 20:29 Alchemik wrote:
who the fuck is Forte Salvation. who the fuck is Salvation
The guy who played the 3rd best game of 2013
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if the rest of the games go as fast as this then GSL will be finished before the S2SL today
Edit: assuming they'll stream all of the S2SL games left to play
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On December 17 2015 20:31 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:30 Damnitmynameistaken wrote:
What happened? I missed this stream It just started, herO 2-0 Sorry pretty good beat down from herO. 3 more games to go
Oh, seems like I didn't miss much then
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On December 17 2015 20:33 Yello wrote:
if the rest of the games go as fast as this then GSL will be finished before the S2SL today
S2SL has 5 Bo3s to go, so GSL will likely finish first
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Now for Forte to show Maru how it's done
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On December 17 2015 20:33 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:30 Alchemik wrote:On December 17 2015 20:30 Elentos wrote:On December 17 2015 20:29 Alchemik wrote:
who the fuck is Forte Salvation. who the fuck is Salvation The guy who played the 3rd best game of 2013
Innovation? Curious?
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Hahaha what the fuck Tasteless
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"Hey Siri, why is Artosis such a bad caster?"
lol
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"Hey siri? why is artosis such a bad caster?"
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"you are a nerd" artosis haha
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Tasteless the Nydus is going to be stronger because its invulnerable before it comes out...
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T-two base spire? What year is this?
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Salvation looks like he will randomly die to mutas
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On December 17 2015 20:42 VmY wrote:
T-two base spire? What year is this?
Probably watched too much Destiny Ladder Strims
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On December 17 2015 20:42 VmY wrote:
T-two base spire? What year is this?
2015???
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On December 17 2015 20:42 VmY wrote:
T-two base spire? What year is this?
nerchio is relevant again so it all makes sense
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On December 17 2015 20:42 Arvendilin wrote:Probably watched too much Destiny Ladder Strims
Was not standard for most of 2015 at all nope
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byul playing ling bane so salvation has a shot :D
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awesome trap. Forte is doing surprisingly well with what should have been a huge build order disadvantage
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On December 17 2015 20:43 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:42 Arvendilin wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 VmY wrote:
T-two base spire? What year is this? Probably watched too much Destiny Ladder Strims Was not standard for most of 2015 at all nope
I know... thats why I said Byul watched too many Destiny Ladder Strims, because in HotS aswell as in most of his earlier LotV streams he always did 2 base muta vs Terran
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On December 17 2015 20:44 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:43 HellHound wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 Arvendilin wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 VmY wrote:
T-two base spire? What year is this? Probably watched too much Destiny Ladder Strims Was not standard for most of 2015 at all nope I know... thats why I said Byul watched too many Destiny Ladder Strims, because in HotS aswell as in most of his earlier LotV streams he always did 2 base muta vs Terran
what HellHound meant was that 2 base muta was, in fact, the standard for most of 2015
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On December 17 2015 20:46 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:44 Arvendilin wrote:On December 17 2015 20:43 HellHound wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 Arvendilin wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 VmY wrote:
T-two base spire? What year is this? Probably watched too much Destiny Ladder Strims Was not standard for most of 2015 at all nope I know... thats why I said Byul watched too many Destiny Ladder Strims, because in HotS aswell as in most of his earlier LotV streams he always did 2 base muta vs Terran what HellHound meant was that 2 base muta was, in fact, the standard for most of 2015
Yes, on account of hellbats
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On December 17 2015 20:46 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:44 Arvendilin wrote:On December 17 2015 20:43 HellHound wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 Arvendilin wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 VmY wrote:
T-two base spire? What year is this? Probably watched too much Destiny Ladder Strims Was not standard for most of 2015 at all nope I know... thats why I said Byul watched too many Destiny Ladder Strims, because in HotS aswell as in most of his earlier LotV streams he always did 2 base muta vs Terran what HellHound meant was that 2 base muta was, in fact, the standard for most of 2015
Then I stand corrected. Sure shows how much passion I had for HotS
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Where are your liberators Forte, what are you doing
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On December 17 2015 20:44 HellHound wrote:
byul playing ling bane so salvation has a shot :D
ByuL has the best muta ling bane vs T in the world
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God, muta/ling/bane never gets old :D
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On December 17 2015 20:46 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:44 Arvendilin wrote:On December 17 2015 20:43 HellHound wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 Arvendilin wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 VmY wrote:
T-two base spire? What year is this? Probably watched too much Destiny Ladder Strims Was not standard for most of 2015 at all nope I know... thats why I said Byul watched too many Destiny Ladder Strims, because in HotS aswell as in most of his earlier LotV streams he always did 2 base muta vs Terran what HellHound meant was that 2 base muta was, in fact, the standard for most of 2015
In LotV?
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and that all on the back of late attack upgrades
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On December 17 2015 20:48 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:44 HellHound wrote:
byul playing ling bane so salvation has a shot :D ByuL has the best muta ling bane vs T in the world
soO is better.
Also that's what I meant with my earleir I take it back comment :D
Handicaping himself doesn't matter with this skill difference
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Poll: Recommend ByuL vs Forte Game 1Good Game (5) 83% Meh Game (1) 17% Excellent Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Forte Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game
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On December 17 2015 20:49 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:46 Alchemik wrote:On December 17 2015 20:44 Arvendilin wrote:On December 17 2015 20:43 HellHound wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 Arvendilin wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 VmY wrote:
T-two base spire? What year is this? Probably watched too much Destiny Ladder Strims Was not standard for most of 2015 at all nope I know... thats why I said Byul watched too many Destiny Ladder Strims, because in HotS aswell as in most of his earlier LotV streams he always did 2 base muta vs Terran what HellHound meant was that 2 base muta was, in fact, the standard for most of 2015 In LotV?
Until Solar taught people to make roaches yes
It helped that 2 hatch was already the meta in hots
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On December 17 2015 20:49 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:46 Alchemik wrote:On December 17 2015 20:44 Arvendilin wrote:On December 17 2015 20:43 HellHound wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 Arvendilin wrote:On December 17 2015 20:42 VmY wrote:
T-two base spire? What year is this? Probably watched too much Destiny Ladder Strims Was not standard for most of 2015 at all nope I know... thats why I said Byul watched too many Destiny Ladder Strims, because in HotS aswell as in most of his earlier LotV streams he always did 2 base muta vs Terran what HellHound meant was that 2 base muta was, in fact, the standard for most of 2015 In LotV?
Even in LotV it was standard for a long time because of tank drops (pre-liberator).
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Well it's cool to see that still works I guess :p
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what happened, that studio looks really cheap, especially the background with the all bubbles in the plastic film O_o
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I wait for the time when 2 base spire will produce two base corruptors 
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On December 17 2015 20:54 Musicus wrote:
what's with all the "??" today?
most pros playing lotv for the first time wondering wtf is going on
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wow how much better this would be with health bars
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If you are low on the ladder you lose the reaper to a queen and a few zerglings
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?? terran was doing so well until the raoches attacked dafuq
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You pretty much need tanks and more bunkers against roach/ravager.
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On December 17 2015 20:59 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
ravager - good unit
sigh
That attack would have won the game if had just been roaches.
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On December 17 2015 21:00 VmY wrote:
You pretty much need tanks and more bunkers against roach/ravager.
You pretty much need balanced patch against roach/ravager.
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hope we get that bunker upgrade with the upcoming patch, that will solve everything
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On December 17 2015 20:53 stevorino wrote:
what happened, that studio looks really cheap, especially the background with the all bubbles in the plastic film O_o
they're above the main studio for pre season because other stuff is going on there.
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On December 17 2015 20:59 Undead1993 wrote:
?? terran was doing so well until the raoches attacked dafuq
Wasn't he down a lot by army supply? I remember about 70+ vs 30~40
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On December 17 2015 21:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 21:00 VmY wrote:
You pretty much need tanks and more bunkers against roach/ravager. You pretty much need balanced patch against roach/ravager.
Yes, the Terran did nothing wrong in this game at all, it's all roach/ravager imbalance.
Sigh...
Pro tip: If it's 7 minutes into the game and your first tank just arrives you either better have a shit ton of marines or you're gonna lose.
The Terran basically had unupgraded marines (no shield and upgrades were 1/0 vs zerg 0/1), some marauders, and half the army supply vs Zerg because he had so much invested in reapers and lost them all (people shouldn't underestimate them - they can do some serious damage in a fight and also split up the slow roaches), and lost some units in his failed attempt to attack the third hatch.
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On December 17 2015 21:02 Damnitmynameistaken wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 20:59 Undead1993 wrote:
?? terran was doing so well until the raoches attacked dafuq Wasn't he down a lot by army supply? I remember about 70+ vs 30~40
ye he was overconfident for sure moving out without medivacs getting caught, artosis explained it quite well, was kinda a throw
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On December 17 2015 21:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 21:00 VmY wrote:
You pretty much need tanks and more bunkers against roach/ravager. You pretty much need balanced patch against roach/ravager.
Lol, please tell me how nerfing the ravager would have changed the outcome of that game.
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I think that roach ravager can be stopped though, its the Ultra late game which looks (not sure i haven't seem many games) that could be a potential problem due to the "nerf" to firebears. Maybe they could address that if it continues to be an issue
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GSL music choices are... Interesting.
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1/2 liquibets, not enough faith in ByuL, that's what I get for skipping most of 2015
too much SC2 for one day t.t will have to catch the rest tomorrow
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alright quick bite before I get back to work, have the games been good so far? I'm happy Byul got through
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On December 17 2015 21:03 Vedeynevin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 21:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On December 17 2015 21:00 VmY wrote:
You pretty much need tanks and more bunkers against roach/ravager. You pretty much need balanced patch against roach/ravager. Lol, please tell me how nerfing the ravager would have changed the outcome of that game.
I'm almost sure if it could be only a simple roach attack without Ravager the outcome would be different, imagine u need some kind of ravager den, than those attack comes later. Ravager is a good solution in busting terran walls/bunkers as well as a pretty simple tool to deal with tanks/liberators.
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wtf guys tanks is awful vs roach ravager, just tank with roach and do some bile shots and kill all the tanks
you need banshees
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Oh no a no name Terran loses, better start to whine about some unit again..
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On December 17 2015 21:02 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 21:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On December 17 2015 21:00 VmY wrote:
You pretty much need tanks and more bunkers against roach/ravager. You pretty much need balanced patch against roach/ravager. Yes, the Terran did nothing wrong in this game at all, it's all roach/ravager imbalance. Sigh... Pro tip: If it's 7 minutes into the game and your first tank just arrives you either better have a shit ton of marines or you're gonna lose. The Terran basically had unupgraded marines (no shield and upgrades were 1/0 vs zerg 0/1), some marauders, and half the army supply vs Zerg because he had so much invested in reapers and lost them all (people shouldn't underestimate them - they can do some serious damage in a fight and also split up the slow roaches), and lost some units in his failed attempt to attack the third hatch.
Agreed. Terran was greedy, up 20 workers or something and his early game investment in reapers didn't pay off thanks to ByuL's good defense with good scouting of the position of the reapers.
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On December 17 2015 21:07 PepperMintTea wrote:
alright quick bite before I get back to work, have the games been good so far? I'm happy Byul got through
herO beat down!!
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On December 17 2015 21:09 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 21:03 Vedeynevin wrote:On December 17 2015 21:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On December 17 2015 21:00 VmY wrote:
You pretty much need tanks and more bunkers against roach/ravager. You pretty much need balanced patch against roach/ravager. Lol, please tell me how nerfing the ravager would have changed the outcome of that game. I'm almost sure if it could be only a simple roach attack without Ravager the outcome would be different, imagine u need some kind of ravager den, than those attack comes later. Ravager is a good solution in busting terran walls/bunkers as well as a pretty simple tool to deal with tanks/liberators.
He didn't even need the ravager in that attack is what I'm saying. Just roaches would have won.
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And only zerg players don't see the issue in ravager, interesting
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On December 17 2015 21:13 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:And only zerg players don't see the issue in ravager, interesting
I don't see any pros complaining about ravagers, it's always the other things - Lurkers, Ultras, Nydus, Vipers
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On December 17 2015 21:12 10bulgares wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 21:02 heishe wrote:On December 17 2015 21:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:On December 17 2015 21:00 VmY wrote:
You pretty much need tanks and more bunkers against roach/ravager. You pretty much need balanced patch against roach/ravager. Yes, the Terran did nothing wrong in this game at all, it's all roach/ravager imbalance. Sigh... Pro tip: If it's 7 minutes into the game and your first tank just arrives you either better have a shit ton of marines or you're gonna lose. The Terran basically had unupgraded marines (no shield and upgrades were 1/0 vs zerg 0/1), some marauders, and half the army supply vs Zerg because he had so much invested in reapers and lost them all (people shouldn't underestimate them - they can do some serious damage in a fight and also split up the slow roaches), and lost some units in his failed attempt to attack the third hatch. Agreed. Terran was greedy, up 20 workers or something and his early game investment in reapers didn't pay off thanks to ByuL's good defense with good scouting of the position of the reapers.
No it was clearly the OP ravager that prevented the superior terran player from winning. /s
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On December 17 2015 21:12 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Oh no a no name Terran loses, better start to whine about some unit again..
Funny you say that as most big name Terrans spent all day failing in the SSL qualifiers.
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Oh boy I havent seen any of the Casting Archon in over a year, and they are hilarious as ever. Haaa that gives me a warm feeling.
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On December 17 2015 21:14 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 21:13 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:And only zerg players don't see the issue in ravager, interesting I don't see any pros complaining about ravagers, it's always the other things - Lurkers, Ultras, Nydus, Vipers
u'd find out more opinions
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On December 17 2015 21:14 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 21:13 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:And only zerg players don't see the issue in ravager, interesting I don't see any pros complaining about ravagers, it's always the other things - Lurkers, Ultras, Nydus, Vipers
I actually think lurkers have been removed from that list at this point. They seem pretty manageable in their current state. Parasitic bomb is pretty silly though. Same with the invincible nydus, that's just silly. I could see making it so a handful of workers can't kill it, but I don't think they found the right solution.
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Life needs to work on his dodging man. He has such good micro, taking all those hits isn't necessary.
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Dying with 1.5k/350 in the bank. Dark's macro just slipped.
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turns out attacking is a bad idea in zvz.
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Oddly enough that was my favorite game so far.
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On December 17 2015 21:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Dying with 1.5k/350 in the bank. Dark's macro just slipped.
Maybe that macro hatch of Life made the difference?
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That was a really good ZvZ. Much better than HotS.
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I'd buy Jingle Bells, Tasteless Smells.
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On December 17 2015 21:15 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 21:12 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Oh no a no name Terran loses, better start to whine about some unit again..
Funny you say that as most big name Terrans spent all day failing in the SSL qualifiers.
It's funny aswell that people complain when a no name loses to Byul
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Tasteless, please, please shave
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On December 17 2015 21:15 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 21:12 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Oh no a no name Terran loses, better start to whine about some unit again..
Funny you say that as most big name Terrans spent all day failing in the SSL qualifiers.
hmm I wish TL would take a tougher stance on the excessive balance whining in the LR thread.
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On December 17 2015 21:28 PepperMintTea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 21:15 Elentos wrote:On December 17 2015 21:12 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Oh no a no name Terran loses, better start to whine about some unit again..
Funny you say that as most big name Terrans spent all day failing in the SSL qualifiers. hmm I wish TL would take a tougher stance on the excessive balance whining in the LR thread.
Can i whine about the game quality thus far for korean LOTV?
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owwwww that last audio glitch actually hurt my ear
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CJ's aces keep performing gj!
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Tastosis looks frustrated
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1/3 liquibets, I think I exaggerated SKT's strength
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who was saying something about gsl's music?
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Well I would be pretty mad if Life lost after taking out DRG. As long as Life keeps winning I'll be ok with it. =P
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On December 17 2015 21:43 Durnuu wrote:1/3 liquibets, I think I exaggerated SKT's strength
Champions have to start last with LotV practice, so it's okay.
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On December 17 2015 21:42 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Tastosis looks frustrated
Wouldn't you be if a cloud of bee's started building a hive on your face?
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Zest was at like 39-40 probes, i doubt the liberators did much
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What is the observer story?
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On December 17 2015 21:59 Strela wrote:
What is the observer story?
He's new and has much to learn.
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On December 17 2015 22:00 Elentos wrote:He's new and has much to learn.
Maybe a silly question but what happened to legend and heaven?
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Sick strategy by Reality.
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On December 17 2015 22:04 umelbumel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 22:00 Elentos wrote:On December 17 2015 21:59 Strela wrote:
What is the observer story? He's new and has much to learn. Maybe a silly question but what happened to legend and heaven?
Legend is the head coach of SBENU.
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LOL! THAT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL!!!
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On December 17 2015 22:04 Seeker wrote:
LOL! THAT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL!!!
is that sarcasm?
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What is that in tasteless' face?? :o
SOme kind of hairy brain slug? Or chin slug? :o :o
Someone should tell him!!
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lmao wtf is Tasteless doing???? These 2 guys have not changed at all over these past several years, holy shit, I love them too much.
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Pls Zest no don't ruin my 4/4 liquibet drams
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That build pretty much kills any non-stalker opening doesn't it? Or were Zest's pylons misplaced?
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On December 17 2015 22:05 DreamOen wrote:is that sarcasm?
No that was beautiful.
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LOTV is a shit show, i didn't watch one good game yet in this gsl pre tournament
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On December 17 2015 22:05 Nebuchad wrote:
That build pretty much kills any non-stalker opening doesn't it? Or were Zest's pylons misplaced?
I don't see why he didn't have a pylon near his mineral line after getting proxy reaper'd 
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On December 17 2015 22:05 Hall0wed wrote:
lmao wtf is Tasteless doing???? These 2 guys have not changed at all over these past several years, holy shit, I love them too much.
This, so much!
The lategame Tasteless sounds like a scary unit.
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Tastosis needs to lay off the weed
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On December 17 2015 22:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
LOTV is a shit show, i didn't watch one good game yet in this gsl pre tournament
Most of the Nation Wars games were really good / entertaining. Logical conclusion the koreans can't handle the increased Micro and pace of LotV.
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Germany25657 Posts
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??? how drunk are these two
should be more professional on stream
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shit we need a map with tastelesses for hsc
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On December 17 2015 22:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
LOTV is a shit show, i didn't watch one good game yet in this gsl pre tournament
You must miss TY vs hero yesterday then
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On December 17 2015 22:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
LOTV is a shit show, i didn't watch one good game yet in this gsl pre tournament
Idk I have barely watched SC2 since 2014 (barely in 2014 too) and so far LOTV has gotten me back into watching SC2 and I will likely buy the game soon now that I just fixed my desktop as of today. Looks really fun!
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On December 17 2015 22:11 random hero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 22:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
LOTV is a shit show, i didn't watch one good game yet in this gsl pre tournament Most of the Nation Wars games were really good / entertaining. Logical conclusion the koreans can't handle the increased Micro and pace of LotV.
Legacy of the Void makes you bad at the game, something Koreans are naturally not used to P
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On December 17 2015 22:11 random hero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 22:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
LOTV is a shit show, i didn't watch one good game yet in this gsl pre tournament Most of the Nation Wars games were really good / entertaining. Logical conclusion the koreans can't handle the increased Micro and pace of LotV.
Maybe LOTV is only watchable at a lower lvl atm
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On December 17 2015 22:12 Yiome wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 22:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
LOTV is a shit show, i didn't watch one good game yet in this gsl pre tournament You must miss TY vs hero yesterday then
He is a KT fanboy
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Hey look Terran 0-3 in GSL too.
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tasteless is so litteral. Ye we see that x player is about to die, no need to tell us that every single damn time about it.
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4/4 liquibets the dream is real.
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It will take some time for korean terrans to accept they can't just be out on the map like that I think
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On December 17 2015 22:12 Yiome wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 22:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
LOTV is a shit show, i didn't watch one good game yet in this gsl pre tournament You must miss TY vs hero yesterday then
That is correct
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Double teamkill double PvZ semifinals.
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2 team kills tomorrow wow
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On December 17 2015 22:12 rauk wrote:
??? how drunk are these two
should be more professional on stream
I was thinking exactly this during the "cast". lol. It was as if they were at hsc.
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KT vs CJ final with teamkills in semifinals...
Didn't we have something similar of that before?
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Good to see Terrans still doing well. Clearly the stronger race IMO.
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On December 17 2015 22:15 Elentos wrote:
4/4 liquibets the dream is real.
8/8 here :D
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On December 17 2015 22:19 Strela wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2015 22:12 rauk wrote:
??? how drunk are these two
should be more professional on stream I was thinking exactly this during the "cast". lol. It was as if they were at hsc.
seems pretty normal day for tastosis nothing too crazy
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Tastossis cast, so funny, i love those guys.
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On December 18 2015 14:34 Belha wrote:
Tastossis cast, so funny, i love those guys.
They can really kick a joke down into the ground though.
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