EPT[WCS] Global Finals - Day 3 2015 - Page 277
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
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Penev
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On November 08 2015 15:00 The_Templar wrote: I am virtually certain that is not true. It's not true | ||
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REyeM
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Elentos
55593 Posts
Even if it was, we have since been told that matchfixers purposely shifted betting lines on matches that were not manipulated. | ||
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Ingvar
Russian Federation421 Posts
On November 08 2015 22:33 Elentos wrote: Even if it was, we have since been told that matchfixers purposely shifted betting lines on matches that were not manipulated. As much as betting lines aren't a proof of someone matchfixing, that phrase is not a proof of someone not matchfixing. But all these things have nothing to do with sOs. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On November 08 2015 22:07 The_Red_Viper wrote: Hm i thought the entertainment value of the finals was great, mostly because it was close and tense till the end (not my favorite type of gameplay though tbh) Still very unsure about LOTV, but tournaments start soon so let's see what happens :D I would be interested to see your top 5 of Hots, anybody wanna do the list? (with some explanation) 1 - INnoVation: 2 GSL wins, 1 second place; 2 more Premier wins, including a 2013 season finale. Insane consistency and winrate (against Koreans). Even in the tournaments he didn't win he made his name (against Soulkey and against Maru in the OSL semifinals for example). Also simply playing and creating the best Terran styles possible for bio and mech in TvZ and TvT. Add to that insanely good stats in teamleagues, delivering when it counts. 2 - Life: Even with only one GSL win I give him the advantage over Maru, because similarily to INnoVation he was often "the guy to beat" (GSL 2013 INnoVation made his name of 2-0ing Life and Dream of 4-3ing life in the SSL semifinals). Not quite as consistent as INnoVation but peaking just as high if not even higher 2014/15. Very versatile and creative player that can change up his playstyle in months from being a top, somewhat defensive infestor or swarm host player to a mechanical beast mixing coinflips with strong macro tempo plays. 3 - Maru: This guy had a ticket to GSL/SSL semifinals and Ro8s. Won a GSL and an SSL. The reason why he doesn't stand on top is that he didn't participate (and consequently win) enough tournaments. Sickly good TvT and TvP, lacking a bit in TvZ. Much copied, never reached. 4 - 6: Classic, Zest, soO in some order | ||
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Elentos
55593 Posts
On November 08 2015 22:40 Big J wrote: 1 - INnoVation: 2 GSL wins, 1 second place; 2 more Premier wins, including a 2013 season finale. Insane consistency and winrate (against Koreans). Even in the tournaments he didn't win he made his name (against Soulkey and against Maru in the OSL semifinals for example). Also simply playing and creating the best Terran styles possible for bio and mech in TvZ and TvT. Add to that insanely good stats in teamleagues, delivering when it counts. 2 - Life: Even with only one GSL win I give him the advantage over Maru, because similarily to INnoVation he was often "the guy to beat" (GSL 2013 INnoVation made his name of 2-0ing Life and Dream of 4-3ing life in the SSL semifinals). Not quite as consistent as INnoVation but peaking just as high if not even higher 2014/15. Very versatile and creative player that can change up his playstyle in months from being a top, somewhat defensive infestor or swarm host player to a mechanical beast mixing coinflips with strong macro tempo plays. 3 - Maru: This guy had a ticket to GSL/SSL semifinals and Ro8s. Won a GSL and an SSL. The reason why he doesn't stand on top is that he didn't participate (and consequently win) enough tournaments. Sickly good TvT and TvP, lacking a bit in TvZ. Much copied, never reached. 4 - 6: Classic, Zest, soO in some order sOs doesn't even make your top 6? | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
He only made two ro4s in GSL/OSL/SSL. And even if I valued the tournaments he won higher than I do, he probably would still not make it because of Taeja and Polt. by the way this is somewhat based on my old blog on that topic (Mar 2015). My standings for best HotS player back at that time were: 1. Life (5.042 points) 2. Maru (4.65 points) 3. soO & TaeJa (4.00 points) 5. INnoVation (3.575 points) 6. Zest (3.5 points) 7. Jaedong (3.4 points) 8. MMA (3.225 points) 9. Polt (2.842 points) 10. Soulkey (2.817 points) http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/481247-the-best-players-of-sc2-extra-dry-read | ||
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Musicus
Germany23579 Posts
On November 08 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote: By the way did it actually make sense to tickle the nexus shields instead of killing the forge and cyber core before photon overcharge? Yeah, I'm also not sure his target priority was correct in some situations. Getting the forge would've been big. But I'm still not sure afterwards, so I can't blame him if he made a mistake there. Would be nice to test it with a replay! | ||
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WhurreOdu
Austria1739 Posts
 )This is why I love Starcraft! | ||
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ReMinD_
Croatia846 Posts
Still, it was an entertaining and fairly unique series. I thought Life had that last game in the bag, but then he pulled his lings back when Photon Overcharge was activated. I felt like he could take that nexus down right there. | ||
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meenamjah
Canada51 Posts
shame it went to game 7... life was vastly outplayed. | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On November 09 2015 01:15 meenamjah wrote: down with life!!!! yes! shame it went to game 7... life was vastly outplayed. Yes. 4-3 seems like Life only managed to win 3-games because of all the absurdly strong all-ins that zerg has and the weak defensive ability and literally zero offensive power of protoss. Life is such a patchzerg. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On November 09 2015 01:24 RaFox17 wrote: Yes. 4-3 seems like Life only managed to win 3-games because of all the absurdly strong all-ins that zerg has and the weak defensive ability and literally zero offensive power of protoss. Life is such a patchzerg. That reminds me. Where is swag_bro? | ||
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Elentos
55593 Posts
On November 09 2015 01:27 showstealer1829 wrote: That reminds me. Where is swag_bro? Perma banned. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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Elentos
55593 Posts
I know, it's pretty said. We lost such great entertainment value. But maybe a new swag_prophet will arise come LotV. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
On November 08 2015 22:48 Big J wrote: He only made two ro4s in GSL/OSL/SSL. And even if I valued the tournaments he won higher than I do, he probably would still not make it because of Taeja and Polt. by the way this is somewhat based on my old blog on that topic (Mar 2015). My standings for best HotS player back at that time were: 1. Life (5.042 points) 2. Maru (4.65 points) 3. soO & TaeJa (4.00 points) 5. INnoVation (3.575 points) 6. Zest (3.5 points) 7. Jaedong (3.4 points) 8. MMA (3.225 points) 9. Polt (2.842 points) 10. Soulkey (2.817 points) http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/481247-the-best-players-of-sc2-extra-dry-read And since then Jaedong was dropping and dropping I am more surprise by no Parting. He is maybe winning not that much, but he is one of the best players out there. I wonder why is he not winning things... | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
Damn. I did not know that. End of an era. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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