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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 04 2015 23:56 GMT
#141
But I think for herO it would be about finally proving that yes, he is the best in the world, and he is one of the greatest ever.
INnoVation would further cement himself as the greatest Terran player since IM.Mvp.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
November 04 2015 23:56 GMT
#142
On November 05 2015 07:27 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:11 Diabolique wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:10 Zealously wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:07 Diabolique wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:01 Circumstance wrote:
I'm convinced now. The winner of Blizzcon isn't usually the player who everyone thinks is the strongest - it's the strongest player that people didn't prepare for.

Rogue is going to be the final Heart of the Swarm World Champion.

I would be happy for him. I think, he has the skill necessary for it, but he does not have the champion mentality ... if Rogue got to the final, it would be so big for him that he would break down.


Don't worry, no one is surpassing Life

Noone except Innovation and sOs :-)
And of course Lilbow, in case he had practiced :-)


What is there in sOs' play that convinces you he could take on and clearly outmatch Life in PvZ when most of his contemporaries - Zest, Parting, Stats - have failed to do the same? I must remind you that Life beat sOs when they last faced off, and Life was in indisputably worse shape then than he is now.

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
If Life has good allins planned he can beat Innovation, otherwise yeah no


Moonlight Madness should be a lock unless Innovation uses his veto on that map. I'm not terribly worried about Innovation's bio, but I do have reservations about Life's anti-mech play. We'll see, but I'm convinced he'll show up to play much better ZvT than we last saw from him.

Rain can totally beat Life, he beat him in his prime
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-05 00:02:00
November 05 2015 00:00 GMT
#143
On November 05 2015 08:56 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:27 Zealously wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:11 Diabolique wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:10 Zealously wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:07 Diabolique wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:01 Circumstance wrote:
I'm convinced now. The winner of Blizzcon isn't usually the player who everyone thinks is the strongest - it's the strongest player that people didn't prepare for.

Rogue is going to be the final Heart of the Swarm World Champion.

I would be happy for him. I think, he has the skill necessary for it, but he does not have the champion mentality ... if Rogue got to the final, it would be so big for him that he would break down.


Don't worry, no one is surpassing Life

Noone except Innovation and sOs :-)
And of course Lilbow, in case he had practiced :-)


What is there in sOs' play that convinces you he could take on and clearly outmatch Life in PvZ when most of his contemporaries - Zest, Parting, Stats - have failed to do the same? I must remind you that Life beat sOs when they last faced off, and Life was in indisputably worse shape then than he is now.

On November 05 2015 07:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
If Life has good allins planned he can beat Innovation, otherwise yeah no


Moonlight Madness should be a lock unless Innovation uses his veto on that map. I'm not terribly worried about Innovation's bio, but I do have reservations about Life's anti-mech play. We'll see, but I'm convinced he'll show up to play much better ZvT than we last saw from him.

Rain can totally beat Life, he beat him in his prime

Rain can also get eliminated from the tournament with a 6-pool.

I mean, in theory everyone in this top 8 should be able to beat anyone else (except maybe the outliers INnoVation - Hydra?). But will they perform when it matters?
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
November 05 2015 00:01 GMT
#144
It would definitely not be a clear victory for sOs. I know, they are both really good. Yes, Life is in much better shape now than before, but sOs as well. If they met in semifinal, I would say, sOs would probably lose. But being in the final, I believe, it would give him such a confidence being again in the 100k final, that he would fully use his strengths:
- he has practically an infinite number of builds :-)
- he is able to read the situation extremely well and come with a surprise
- when he is behind, he is able to come with some emergency surprise solution and gets back into the game
- he does mind games :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-05 00:08:01
November 05 2015 00:06 GMT
#145
On November 05 2015 09:01 Diabolique wrote:
It would definitely not be a clear victory for sOs. I know, they are both really good. Yes, Life is in much better shape now than before, but sOs as well. If they met in semifinal, I would say, sOs would probably lose. But being in the final, I believe, it would give him such a confidence being again in the 100k final, that he would fully use his strengths:
- he has practically an infinite number of builds :-)
- he is able to read the situation extremely well and come with a surprise
- when he is behind, he is able to come with some emergency surprise solution and gets back into the game
- he does mind games :-)

I think you might underestimate how much the same is true for Life. There's a reason that Life wins the overwhelming majority of tournament finals he reaches (despite being under age 18 for most of them).
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-05 00:10:50
November 05 2015 00:06 GMT
#146
On November 05 2015 07:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Which player would have the best storyline? Life to be the GOAT if the wins Blizzcon? (and back to back champion)

Classic as the "nameless korean" (see duck/sOs blizzcon 13)
sOs as the million dollar man
Life as the GOAT
INno as the true terran hope (fuck you maru)
Rogue as the newest zerg hope
hydra as the wtf factor
herO as the I can win more than just IEM
Rain as the...rain


If INnoVation wins Blizzcon, it becomes an indisputable fact that he is the #1 player of HOTS.

Life is in contention for SC2 GOAT though. That's bigger, but less likely.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 05 2015 00:10 GMT
#147
Innovation will break Life like the little boy he is.
rip passion
Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
November 05 2015 00:13 GMT
#148
I daydreamed about how cute it would be to make drones into spore crawlers to dodge widow mine hits, then I rewatched Dream-Hydra and realized that Hydra did it but I had forgotten =_=
sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 05 2015 01:07 GMT
#149


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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 05 2015 01:15 GMT
#150
lol snorlax is pretty funny
rip passion
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
November 05 2015 01:21 GMT
#151
2013 - sOs's path to victory - HerO, Polt, Bomber, Jaedong
2014 - Life's path - Zest, San, Taeja, MMA

2015 -

Classic's path - ByuL, herO, INno/Life, sOs/Rogue
INno's path - Zest, Life, Classic/herO, sOs/Rogue
sOs's path - PartinG, Rain, Rogue, INno/Classic/herO/Life

Those are the three most impressive possible lists of opponents, in that order, IMO.

How do you think they stack up compared to sOs and Life's runs in previous years?
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
November 05 2015 01:22 GMT
#152
On November 05 2015 09:06 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Which player would have the best storyline? Life to be the GOAT if the wins Blizzcon? (and back to back champion)

Classic as the "nameless korean" (see duck/sOs blizzcon 13)
sOs as the million dollar man
Life as the GOAT
INno as the true terran hope (fuck you maru)
Rogue as the newest zerg hope
hydra as the wtf factor
herO as the I can win more than just IEM
Rain as the...rain


If INnoVation wins Blizzcon, it becomes an indisputable fact that he is the #1 player of HOTS.

Life is in contention for SC2 GOAT though. That's bigger, but less likely.

stuchiu plz
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
November 05 2015 01:23 GMT
#153
On November 05 2015 10:21 pure.Wasted wrote:
2013 - sOs's path to victory - HerO, Polt, Bomber, Jaedong
2014 - Life's path - Zest, San, Taeja, MMA

2015 -

Classic's path - ByuL, herO, INno/Life, sOs/Rogue
INno's path - Zest, Life, Classic/herO, sOs/Rogue
sOs's path - PartinG, Rain, Rogue, INno/Classic/herO/Life

Those are the three most impressive possible lists of opponents, in that order, IMO.

How do you think they stack up compared to sOs and Life's runs in previous years?

list gets better every year
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 05 2015 01:47 GMT
#154
Taeja's path last year was a hellhole.

soO, InnO, Life
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Pugfarmer
Profile Joined April 2014
70 Posts
November 05 2015 01:49 GMT
#155
Innovation just has to mech x 3 for 3 instant wins.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
November 05 2015 01:49 GMT
#156
And all three were on form. If he had won, that might have been the toughest run of all, including all possible 2015 outcomes.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 05 2015 01:58 GMT
#157
On November 05 2015 10:23 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 10:21 pure.Wasted wrote:
2013 - sOs's path to victory - HerO, Polt, Bomber, Jaedong
2014 - Life's path - Zest, San, Taeja, MMA

2015 -

Classic's path - ByuL, herO, INno/Life, sOs/Rogue
INno's path - Zest, Life, Classic/herO, sOs/Rogue
sOs's path - PartinG, Rain, Rogue, INno/Classic/herO/Life

Those are the three most impressive possible lists of opponents, in that order, IMO.

How do you think they stack up compared to sOs and Life's runs in previous years?

list gets better every year

Yeah pretty much
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
November 05 2015 02:33 GMT
#158
On November 05 2015 10:21 pure.Wasted wrote:
2013 - sOs's path to victory - HerO, Polt, Bomber, Jaedong
2014 - Life's path - Zest, San, Taeja, MMA

2015 -

Classic's path - ByuL, herO, INno/Life, sOs/Rogue
INno's path - Zest, Life, Classic/herO, sOs/Rogue
sOs's path - PartinG, Rain, Rogue, INno/Classic/herO/Life

Those are the three most impressive possible lists of opponents, in that order, IMO.

How do you think they stack up compared to sOs and Life's runs in previous years?

lol you forgot Rain's path
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 05 2015 02:38 GMT
#159
On November 05 2015 11:33 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 10:21 pure.Wasted wrote:
2013 - sOs's path to victory - HerO, Polt, Bomber, Jaedong
2014 - Life's path - Zest, San, Taeja, MMA

2015 -

Classic's path - ByuL, herO, INno/Life, sOs/Rogue
INno's path - Zest, Life, Classic/herO, sOs/Rogue
sOs's path - PartinG, Rain, Rogue, INno/Classic/herO/Life

Those are the three most impressive possible lists of opponents, in that order, IMO.

How do you think they stack up compared to sOs and Life's runs in previous years?

lol you forgot Rain's path

Rain: Polt, sOs, Rogue, Inno/Classic/herO/Life.
Rain's path would be a little less impressive than sOs's, since he went through Polt instead of PartinG. (although admittedly Polt looked quite good)
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46480 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-05 02:41:56
November 05 2015 02:40 GMT
#160
On November 05 2015 09:10 Deathstar wrote:
Innovation will break Life like the little boy he is.


He really did look insane against Zest, although we didn't have a chance to see what Life is capable of.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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