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The first match is scheduled to begin at 18:30 GMT (+00:00)
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
November 01 2015 20:05 GMT
#3541
On November 02 2015 04:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 04:55 Zealously wrote:
On November 02 2015 04:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 02 2015 04:53 Apoteosis wrote:
On November 02 2015 04:50 Ej_ wrote:
On November 02 2015 04:49 Zealously wrote:
On November 02 2015 04:47 BladeMasterPro wrote:
On November 02 2015 04:33 Zealously wrote:
On November 02 2015 04:32 BladeMasterPro wrote:
I am still pretty new to SC2. Who are the favorites in this? I keep hearing Innovation?


INnoVation and Zest are probably near the top in terms of common, alongside sOs and herO. There's a wide range of players that could reasonably win if they play as good as they have in the past.


What Zerg player is good to watch? I saw that Life has a lot of achievements. I am a gold Zerg, so I am hoping to learn


If you're hoping to learn, I would recommend ByuL - his style is easier to emulate, and he tends to handle Terran mech slightly better than Life. Life is my favorite player, though, and he plays a very exciting style - if you're looking for intelligent problem solving and fancy unit control, Life is the player to follow.

Is "intelligent problem solving" a synonym for "cheesing the fuck out of better macro players"?


Well, Mvp was a regular cheeser, and he is considered by some the GOAT of sc2. Go figure...


Mvp was mostly known for being a super defensive macro terran. He only started cheesing a lot once his wrists died.


I think the point is that he cheesed when he knew it was his best chance to win. It shouldn't matter much why his chances in macro games were slim.


Mvp cheesed for all kinds of reasons, as does Life. It's part of what makes the best players the best.


Yea, pretty much this. Although I think they both cheesed because it gives them a mental advantage. Both players are super bold and have a mental strength that is way out of the scale.
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 01 2015 20:05 GMT
#3542
On November 02 2015 05:05 rotta wrote:
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On November 02 2015 05:04 Tamagoshi wrote:
Byul needs to lose to sOs in the finals, therefose, sorry Classic

I didn't even consider this possibility... That would be too awesome and cruel!

if byul loses in the finals someone needs to photoshop the jaedong frown onto his face
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 01 2015 20:05 GMT
#3543
On November 02 2015 05:05 Minase wrote:
use the chin, Classic

Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 01 2015 20:06 GMT
#3544
On November 02 2015 05:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:
ah that great music. T music so imba !

Played between a match that Protoss won and a PvZ.
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chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
November 01 2015 20:06 GMT
#3545
On November 02 2015 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
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On November 02 2015 04:55 chambertin wrote:
why couldn't those widow mines get their shots off... it seems like none of them did. if fanta had some more composure, or had taken the fight when herO was going into his natural I feel he could have done so much better.... so sad for fanta.

it was 152 to 109 supply at some point, even if that was misleading because no vikings and more workers for FanTa... I feel his positioning was too hesitant. He should have had other medivacs loaded with mines ready to kill off herO's eco or be set up better for defence with bunkers etc


fuck... thinking back.. it indeed seems like there were so many options for fantasy that he didn't make use of: no bunkering, and dropping the mines without any bio attacking, evac'ing the third earlier, setting up a flank... did he even have to engage after his 3rd was sniped..... sigh.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
November 01 2015 20:06 GMT
#3546
So to recap: Fuck vikings. Srsly. Fuck vikings. Or... let's... Build aaaaaaaaaall the vikings.nah... just fuck vikings.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
November 01 2015 20:06 GMT
#3547
BW terran theme yay
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
November 01 2015 20:06 GMT
#3548
On November 02 2015 05:04 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 05:04 Tamagoshi wrote:
Byul needs to lose to sOs in the finals, therefose, sorry Classic

This is reminding me of when everyone predicted soO/TaeJa.

it seemed obvious to me especially after g1 that TaeJa was gonna win and there was no way that Inno beats taeja but anyway, time to explain why people are wrong this year
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
November 01 2015 20:06 GMT
#3549
On November 02 2015 05:05 Boucot wrote:
ByuL-Classic has the profile to be the best match of this Ro16. Alongside Zest-INno and Maru-Rogue I think.

I'm pretty sure Zest - INno will be dreadful (dts and stupid stuff) but I agree on the other two.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
November 01 2015 20:06 GMT
#3550
On November 02 2015 05:04 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 05:04 Tamagoshi wrote:
Byul needs to lose to sOs in the finals, therefose, sorry Classic

This is reminding me of when everyone predicted soO/TaeJa.

What people didn't realize was that being a true Kong didn't mean always finishing 2nd, but rather, always coming up one short of the goal - in that case, playing at Blizzcon.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5615 Posts
November 01 2015 20:06 GMT
#3551
On November 02 2015 05:06 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
BW terran theme yay

No it isn't
don't wall off against random
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 01 2015 20:06 GMT
#3552
On November 02 2015 05:06 robson1 wrote:
So to recap: Fuck vikings. Srsly. Fuck vikings. Or... let's... Build aaaaaaaaaall the vikings.nah... just fuck vikings.


Yeah. He built enough vikings game 3 for the entire bo5.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
November 01 2015 20:07 GMT
#3553
On November 02 2015 05:06 chambertin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On November 02 2015 04:55 chambertin wrote:
why couldn't those widow mines get their shots off... it seems like none of them did. if fanta had some more composure, or had taken the fight when herO was going into his natural I feel he could have done so much better.... so sad for fanta.

it was 152 to 109 supply at some point, even if that was misleading because no vikings and more workers for FanTa... I feel his positioning was too hesitant. He should have had other medivacs loaded with mines ready to kill off herO's eco or be set up better for defence with bunkers etc


fuck... thinking back.. it indeed seems like there were so many options for fantasy that he didn't make use of: no bunkering, and dropping the mines without any bio attacking, evac'ing the third earlier, setting up a flank... did he even have to engage after his 3rd was sniped..... sigh.

yes. He had to commit to either basetrading or defence, he went half-arsed and paid the price.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
November 01 2015 20:07 GMT
#3554
On November 02 2015 05:06 rotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 05:06 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
BW terran theme yay

No it isn't

It's not? Then why do I hear it every time I start up a BW game or turn on the BW soundtrack in SC2.
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
November 01 2015 20:07 GMT
#3555
On November 02 2015 05:01 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 05:00 HomeWorld wrote:
On November 02 2015 04:57 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On November 02 2015 04:56 HomeWorld wrote:
After years of nerfing and nerfing terran into the ground, cumulated with the weirdest consecutive buffs to protoss, here you have it... I'm so ashamed to even witness such game, and to be honest, big props to Fantasy for trying to do something despite being severely handicapped.

lol

indeed, been watching(and playing) this game since WoL beta ... what you wrote pretty much sums it: "LOL"


Of all matches to use as evidence for your viewpoint, you use Fantasy vs herO? Do you have any idea how silly that makes you look?

This is the most MOST recent one, in line with each and single TvP since the start of HotS. Is that silly ?! I beg to differ. After all, if we're going to be honest with ourselves, terran is wielding the shortest stick..
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
November 01 2015 20:07 GMT
#3556
On November 02 2015 05:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 05:05 Boucot wrote:
ByuL-Classic has the profile to be the best match of this Ro16. Alongside Zest-INno and Maru-Rogue I think.

I'm pretty sure Zest - INno will be dreadful (dts and stupid stuff) but I agree on the other two.

I hope it's going to be as hilariously retarded as their series in Katowice.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
November 01 2015 20:07 GMT
#3557
I don't think the chin can take the wrecking ball
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
November 01 2015 20:07 GMT
#3558
On November 02 2015 05:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 05:04 brickrd wrote:
On November 02 2015 05:03 Poopfeast 024 wrote:
i don't know, i don't get any super epic vibes from artanis, his voice sucks and his golden shiny uniform and gay speeches are just not worthy for an amazing protoss...

i dunno what game you've been playing for 15 years but protoss do nothing but give lame speeches


I thought Zeratul said something pretty cool to Aldaris that one time.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/482864-5k-blog-zeratul-and-how-blizzard-has-failed
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 01 2015 20:07 GMT
#3559
On November 02 2015 05:06 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 05:04 The_Templar wrote:
On November 02 2015 05:04 Tamagoshi wrote:
Byul needs to lose to sOs in the finals, therefose, sorry Classic

This is reminding me of when everyone predicted soO/TaeJa.

What people didn't realize was that being a true Kong didn't mean always finishing 2nd, but rather, always coming up one short of the goal - in that case, playing at Blizzcon.

I liked that series because it beautifuly showcased soO's lack of knowledge on how the game plays out once your opponent leaves midgame on even footing.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
November 01 2015 20:08 GMT
#3560
Also, this was the Year of Two Kongs. So will neither one go to the Top 8?
The world is better when every background has a chance.
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