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On October 04 2015 17:35 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:33 pure.Wasted wrote:On October 04 2015 17:32 chipmonklord17 wrote:On October 04 2015 17:31 pure.Wasted wrote:On October 04 2015 17:30 Solar424 wrote:
PDD is the second most flawed mechanic in the game, next to forcefields. It just negates pretty much every attack that can hit it, and the sky terran army What about Blinding Cloud? You can walk out of a blinding cloud and keep attacking. Good luck doing that with a PDD Siege Tanks can walk out of blinding cloud now? By the same virtue, you can bait PDDs and not engage. And then what? You tech to what? You make what army? Mech isn't unbeatable but pretending that the extremelate game 180 supply army is not invincible is hilarious
We're not talking about balance at all. We're talking about abilities with zero interaction. Blinding Cloud vs mech effectively is one, same as PDD, same as Force Fields.
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On October 04 2015 17:36 JabuSeika wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:34 Proko wrote:
What do you guys think the announcement after this will be? Archon Mode Cup. >.>
all GSLs and the full WCS system are switching to archon mode
IN STARBOW
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United States30730 Posts
Horizontal spawns ^___^;
must stay calm..
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Both ZvP and ZvMech were better before SH nerf in korea.
By the way how many times has innovation gone full cancer? Was that the first cancer game?
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On October 04 2015 17:35 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On October 04 2015 17:34 The_Templar wrote:On October 04 2015 17:33 Zealously wrote:On October 04 2015 17:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 04 2015 17:30 Seeker wrote:
Okay... I love INno and all... But that was seriously the most frustrating game to watch ever... What a crappy style to play... :/ Stop cheering for Terrans. Cheering for Terran is cheering for that. That's not true at all. Cheering for players is not cheering for their mechanics, wtf Cheering for a player is at least in part cheering for how they play, no? that is why SjoW was my favourite player for a long long time. The boy had the heart of the cards.
More like the Hearthstone of the cards, amiright?
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On October 04 2015 17:32 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:31 robson1 wrote:On October 04 2015 17:30 chipmonklord17 wrote:
so what was that comment about spells being why BL/infestor was worse? BL/Infestor was worse, stop with that stupid shit. Last two seasons of GSLs in WoL were absolutely horrendous and there racial distribution was like 7/1/0 in the quarterfinals already. A mech army is harder to kill than a Brood Lord/Infestor army. The difference is Zerg can remax instantly
Yeah sure, but I'm just saying that Wings of Liberty was way worse in the end overall. Zergs just did the same strat against all the races and destroyed everything. People who are crying about Mech being broken in the late game are RIGHT. But when they calling it worse than BL/Infestor they are ridiculous. Game 5 was the first game of the series that went to this stage.
Back in WoL almost every game of this series would have been BL Infestor. Not 1/5.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On October 04 2015 17:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:33 Zealously wrote:On October 04 2015 17:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 04 2015 17:30 Seeker wrote:
Okay... I love INno and all... But that was seriously the most frustrating game to watch ever... What a crappy style to play... :/ Stop cheering for Terrans. Cheering for Terran is cheering for that. That's not true at all. Cheering for players is not cheering for their mechanics, wtf It is, at least to some extent. How they play is very important in cheering for them.
nah that cant be right. Stephano was one of themost beloved foreigners. He was also a wild abuser of both bl/infestr and SH
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your Country52798 Posts
On October 04 2015 17:36 Jinchu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:34 The_Templar wrote:On October 04 2015 17:33 Zealously wrote:On October 04 2015 17:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 04 2015 17:30 Seeker wrote:
Okay... I love INno and all... But that was seriously the most frustrating game to watch ever... What a crappy style to play... :/ Stop cheering for Terrans. Cheering for Terran is cheering for that. That's not true at all. Cheering for players is not cheering for their mechanics, wtf Cheering for a player is at least in part cheering for how they play, no? For fans of foreign players, it's usually more primal.
Yes, but for a player like INnoVation it's a little harder to cheer for anything besides his play 
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On October 04 2015 17:36 JabuSeika wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:34 Proko wrote:
What do you guys think the announcement after this will be? Archon Mode Cup. >.>
That sounds good to me. Might be enough to breathe some life into the game. I really enjoyed the RBB archon tourney.
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On October 04 2015 17:36 Topdoller wrote:
Was that a wild zombiegrub I just seen?
Nah she looked pretty relaxed
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On October 04 2015 17:36 KingofdaHipHop wrote:TeamByuL or TeamINno? We're on match point!
BYUL will take this!!
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On October 04 2015 17:37 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:36 Jinchu wrote:On October 04 2015 17:34 The_Templar wrote:On October 04 2015 17:33 Zealously wrote:On October 04 2015 17:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 04 2015 17:30 Seeker wrote:
Okay... I love INno and all... But that was seriously the most frustrating game to watch ever... What a crappy style to play... :/ Stop cheering for Terrans. Cheering for Terran is cheering for that. That's not true at all. Cheering for players is not cheering for their mechanics, wtf Cheering for a player is at least in part cheering for how they play, no? For fans of foreign players, it's usually more primal. Yes, but for a player like INnoVation it's a little harder to cheer for anything besides his play
Spoken like a true non-believer.
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On October 04 2015 17:35 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:33 mderg wrote:On October 04 2015 17:32 LastManProductions wrote:
And people complained about Swarm Hosts...lol...only in the end do they realize ...It was mech's fault all along. Swarm Hosts in PvZ were at least as awful as Swarm Host vs mech ZvT now we only need Zerg to have a blind read, expand to gold or cheese to win a ZvP
still better than Swarm Hosts
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On October 04 2015 17:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:32 Thrillz wrote:On October 04 2015 17:30 chipmonklord17 wrote:
so what was that comment about spells being why BL/infestor was worse? It was. Your recency bias is showing. BL/Infestor was more broken, just as boring, and actually worked on every match up. Every game going in, in any matchup, you knew it was BL/Infestor goal for Zerg. But ZvP was actually a careful dance of vortex vs BL/infestor. and zerg is far weaker leading up to BL/infestor than terran is going mech
Careful dance of vortex? That was the stupidiest crap ever. That's like saying mech v z is a dance. If they didn't get the hail-mary vortex (which they nerfed) the protoss was outright dead. It made ZvZ atrocious as well because free units killing eachother for an hour.
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On October 04 2015 17:35 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:34 TheWinks wrote:On October 04 2015 17:33 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On October 04 2015 17:32 LastManProductions wrote:
And people complained about Swarm Hosts...lol...only in the end do they realize ...It was mech's fault all along. we few knew it all along, swarm hosts were our saviour Boring games that were twice as long and with half the action were better! Do people not actually remember what the games were really like? Yea it was balanced. Sure it wasn't the most entertaining thing on the planet but a zerg could actually fight mech
Without the ability to mech the already abysmal record for terran in the last few months would be far, far worse.
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On October 04 2015 17:37 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 04 2015 17:33 Zealously wrote:On October 04 2015 17:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 04 2015 17:30 Seeker wrote:
Okay... I love INno and all... But that was seriously the most frustrating game to watch ever... What a crappy style to play... :/ Stop cheering for Terrans. Cheering for Terran is cheering for that. That's not true at all. Cheering for players is not cheering for their mechanics, wtf It is, at least to some extent. How they play is very important in cheering for them. nah that cant be right. Stephano was one of themost beloved foreigners. He was also a wild abuser of both bl/infestr and SH
The foreigner factor tends to override the playstyle factor. But it's a korean vs korean, it's all about race and playstyle.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On October 04 2015 17:36 LastManProductions wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:33 mderg wrote:On October 04 2015 17:32 LastManProductions wrote:
And people complained about Swarm Hosts...lol...only in the end do they realize ...It was mech's fault all along. Swarm Hosts in PvZ were at least as awful as Swarm Host vs mech ZvT There was a lot more that Protoss could do to counter Swarm Hosts. It actually took more skill then was given credit for zerg to go late game SH and execute it really well.
only Snute could do it at the top level consistently.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 04 2015 17:34 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 17:33 Zealously wrote:On October 04 2015 17:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 04 2015 17:30 Seeker wrote:
Okay... I love INno and all... But that was seriously the most frustrating game to watch ever... What a crappy style to play... :/ Stop cheering for Terrans. Cheering for Terran is cheering for that. That's not true at all. Cheering for players is not cheering for their mechanics, wtf Cheering for a player is at least in part cheering for how they play, no?
Unless you became a fan of Innovation because of his great use of PDDs, no. The thing with dominant styles is that they are typically objectively better than their counterparts. If there are no options, you can't blame the player for going down that route. It's like the people bashing Life for occasionally playing BL/Infestor - what else was he going to do?
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