Rogue vs Maru Game 1 Rogue vs Maru Game 2 Rogue vs Maru Game 3 Rogue vs Maru Game 4 Rogue vs Maru Game 5 Zest vs INnoVation Game 1 Zest vs INnoVation Game 2 Zest vs INnoVation Game 3 Zest vs INnoVation Game 4 Zest vs INnoVation Game 5
Really hope Bogus takes it for epic TvT semifinals. That way either Terran sets us up for 1/2 of the best final possible with ByuL being the other half. Just don't see it though, his TvP is usually so predictable and Zest has a great record against him.
On September 17 2015 17:42 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Rogue 2-3Maru Zest 3-0 Bogus
Really hope Bogus takes it for epic TvT semifinals. That way either Terran sets us up for 1/2 of the best final possible with ByuL being the other half. Just don't see it though, his TvP is usually so predictable and Zest has a great record against him.
I second these predictions. I don't approve of the wish though.
I'm really nervous for Maru right now as his TvZ havent looked that good lately. I mean his bio is crazy good but it seems like most zergs just smash that nowdays and I don't really know how good his mech is.
The few games I have seen him play mech havent been that good I think. But can always hope for a couple of good hellbat timings I guess.
It's so hard trying to bet on either Innovation or Zest,
So far all the past encounters are showing a strong T dominance over P, although we're talking about Zest here, the guy who single handedly took down SKT only last week.
I've told myself to always bet on T in high level (korean scene) TvP match ups, but I have no idea what to do here, Aligulac shows strong bias towards Innovation even though Zest has a better h2h win record, especially in HOTS, Zest has won pretty much 80% of the time. It seems Zest does struggle in a longer series (especially this being bo5, so I'm guessing that will favor Innovation slightly).
Looking at the group stages, Zest nearly got eliminated losing 0-2 to Solar and just winning 2-1 against MyuNgSiK, then closed it out winning 2-0 against MyuNgSiK again, whilst Innovation didn't drop a single map...
but again we're talking about Zest here... Argh
Brain is saying Innovation, heart is saying Zest... what to dooooo....
Maru 3-2 Rogue INnoVation 3-2 Zest I'll probably miss most of the matches, I'll be at work. Fuck rl . My heart and thoughts will be with the Terrans though, as much as I love Zest we need a Terran champion.
Maru vs Roguein 0m 0s in GSL Code S Season 3 quarterfinals. Maru has the #4 Headband. Maru is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 51.93% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose. Rogue is at 99.97% Blizzcon Chances, with a 48.07% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 99.99%, or 99.93% if they lose.
INnoVation vs Zestin 0m 0s in GSL Code S Season 3 quarterfinals. Zest has the #3 Headband. INnoVation is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 63.8% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose. Zest is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 36.2% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose.
ByuL vs Dearin 0m 0s in GSL Code S Season 3 semifinals. Dear must win this match! ByuL has the #2 Headband. ByuL is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 47.84% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose. Dear is at 22.07% Blizzcon Chances, with a 52.16% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 41.58%, or 0.79% if they lose.
Dear must win this tournament! INnoVation has a 24.33% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. ByuL has a 21.32% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Dear has a 20.89% chance to win ----going from 22.07% to 99.97% if they get 1st, or 1.5% if they don't. Maru has a 13.28% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Zest has a 10.92% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Rogue has a 9.27% chance to win ----going from 99.97% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.96% if they don't.
More likely to see mech in the second series than the first lmao. A Maru vs Inno semi would I think end up being disappointing. TvT isn't what it used to be. The prospect of Maru bio vs Inno mech might have thrilled me in the past but now not as much. However I think Rogue vs Inno is the nightmare semifinal. Maru vs Zest may provide the best games.
Well, it should be no surprise I'm rooting for Maru... Though I think the outcome of Maru-Rogue could seriously be anything. I mean that. Imaginary or irrational numbers, quantum superposition, objects from the farthest reaches of the galaxy... ANYTHING. Including the horrific prospect of 3-0 in favor of Rogue.
I just am not quite convinced that Maru is 100% back. But if he is, I'm rooting for whoever he's most likely to destroy out of Zest and InnoVation. Inno has looked a little more vulnerable lately, I think? Hmm...
On September 18 2015 12:20 neutralrobot wrote: Well, it should be no surprise I'm rooting for Maru... Though I think the outcome of Maru-Rogue could seriously be anything. I mean that. Imaginary or irrational numbers, quantum superposition, objects from the farthest reaches of the galaxy... ANYTHING. Including the horrific prospect of 3-0 in favor of Rogue.
I just am not quite convinced that Maru is 100% back. But if he is, I'm rooting for whoever he's most likely to destroy out of Zest and InnoVation. Inno has looked a little more vulnerable lately, I think? Hmm...
I think Rogue got this. Maru isn't nearly as good against Zerg as he is against Protoss and Terran. Of course Zest is going to destroy Innovation. Zest is best. Innovation is too macro oriented and operates like a machine. Dare I say, a more refined and better Flash?
On September 18 2015 12:20 neutralrobot wrote: Well, it should be no surprise I'm rooting for Maru... Though I think the outcome of Maru-Rogue could seriously be anything. I mean that. Imaginary or irrational numbers, quantum superposition, objects from the farthest reaches of the galaxy... ANYTHING. Including the horrific prospect of 3-0 in favor of Rogue.
I just am not quite convinced that Maru is 100% back. But if he is, I'm rooting for whoever he's most likely to destroy out of Zest and InnoVation. Inno has looked a little more vulnerable lately, I think? Hmm...
Maru will lose if he beat's Rogue (ROGUE CURSE)
I think Rogue has the magic skill required to redirect his curse to another player. My real hope is that Maru can take the big championship finally. But I seem to be the only one who dares to have a glimmer of hope.
I think Rogue will take this one. There's usually a lot of mindgames and unorthodox builds involved in teamkills situations and Rogue is very good at those.
I don't know shit about TvP so I voted Innovation because I think he's good...
Go Maru, break the curse! Win! Defeat Rogue, Zest and then win the whole GSL! Parting is out, but you are the player that is without a GSL win and should have one!! GOGOGO!
On September 18 2015 18:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 18 2015 18:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 18 2015 18:35 Noonius wrote:
On September 18 2015 18:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I guess Ro8 isn't important enough for Tastosis.
Tastosis is casting hots this weekend, you know, the one where you have to micro one unit
aka the most boring esports there is right now?
Says Mr. "I <3 Dota 2"
Also Wtf Maru, so rude
Dota2 is a lot more exciting than Hots I am a very casual dota2 viewer though, csgo > any moba :D
:/ hots is really fun
I don't know, it imo lacks a lot of what makes other mobas fun tbh. I played it a little bit and thought it's enjoyable short term. But watching it feels incredibly boring to me.
For the guys asking about Maru: The players had to rate their opponent and Maru gave Rogue little values all over the place (micro, attack, etc)
On September 18 2015 18:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 18 2015 18:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 18 2015 18:35 Noonius wrote:
On September 18 2015 18:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I guess Ro8 isn't important enough for Tastosis.
Tastosis is casting hots this weekend, you know, the one where you have to micro one unit
aka the most boring esports there is right now?
Says Mr. "I <3 Dota 2"
Also Wtf Maru, so rude
Dota2 is a lot more exciting than Hots I am a very casual dota2 viewer though, csgo > any moba :D
:/ hots is really fun
I don't know, it imo lacks a lot of what makes other mobas fun tbh. I played it a little bit and thought it's enjoyable short term. But watching it feels incredibly boring to me.
For the guys asking about Maru: The players had to rate their opponent and Maru gave Rogue little values all over the place (micro, attack, etc)
So I turned this on and no Tastosis. Then I realize our technology at work is a little bit... weird. I cannot handle another bad surprise this Friday. Please, Maru, Win!
On September 18 2015 18:41 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 18 2015 18:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 18 2015 18:35 Noonius wrote:
On September 18 2015 18:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I guess Ro8 isn't important enough for Tastosis.
Tastosis is casting hots this weekend, you know, the one where you have to micro one unit
aka the most boring esports there is right now?
Says Mr. "I <3 Dota 2"
Also Wtf Maru, so rude
Dota2 is a lot more exciting than Hots I am a very casual dota2 viewer though, csgo > any moba :D
:/ hots is really fun
I don't know, it imo lacks a lot of what makes other mobas fun tbh. I played it a little bit and thought it's enjoyable short term. But watching it feels incredibly boring to me.
I find it the opposite of other mobas, which are much more boring... laning phase ends very quickly in hots and it's all about team fights and combining with your team and stuff. I can see it not being massively fun to watch but it's more fun than other moba cause it doesn't take 20 minutes for anything interesting to happen.
On September 18 2015 19:14 WrathSCII wrote: Missed game 1. Did he mech it?
Bio/tank push into ezwin.
Bio Tank? Wtf did rouge went for Roaches?
Probably more marine/tank actually, don't think he had raduers. Nope, late banes and mutas. Lost loooots of banes to the tank shots and that was that really.
On September 18 2015 19:18 RKC wrote: Maru's posture and body language always exudes 'slumpiness'. He's like how Obama describes Putin: "the bored kid at the back of the classroom".
I hope he exercises a ton because he's been playing competitively for so long that he might struggle with back, neck pain etc. later on.
On September 18 2015 19:18 RKC wrote: Maru's posture and body language always exudes 'slumpiness'. He's like how Obama describes Putin: "the bored kid at the back of the classroom".
I hope he exercises a ton because he's been playing competitively for so long that he might struggle with back, neck pain etc. later on.
On September 18 2015 19:18 RKC wrote: Maru's posture and body language always exudes 'slumpiness'. He's like how Obama describes Putin: "the bored kid at the back of the classroom".
I hope he exercises a ton because he's been playing competitively for so long that he might struggle with back, neck pain etc. later on.
Yeah, the perpetual slouch is really not healthy at all. He needs to get tips from Zest.
Those roaches behind the mineral line of Maru reminds me of SC2 Battle Report 2 (I think) where Robert Simpson describes the same type of attack as "the roach going rogue commando"
On September 18 2015 19:42 Pandemona wrote: Maru must really think a Blord switch is incoming no other reason to make this many vikings for at most 2 vipers he has seen ever
No detection -> Banshee power. Viking Banshee is really a design fail in a certain view. At least Zerg has fungal
On September 18 2015 19:47 Swisslink wrote: wtf That's one of the worst mech engagements I've ever seen. -> Get ALL Vikings fungled -> Get ALL Banshees fungled
I have seen this a lot but still alive at end, they have too much hp vs fungal.
On September 18 2015 19:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 18 2015 19:51 Thouhastmail wrote: G`day, DK! See those MULEs?
Yup, aren't you glad that DK and them decided that that was a thing that needed to be put back into the game?
I was utterly shocked at the reintroduction of HotS Mules
Why would you? I mean they always emphasize that everything is for testing and nothing is final. If it clearly doesn't work well then reverting it is normal.
On September 18 2015 19:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 18 2015 19:51 Thouhastmail wrote: G`day, DK! See those MULEs?
Yup, aren't you glad that DK and them decided that that was a thing that needed to be put back into the game?
I was utterly shocked at the reintroduction of HotS Mules
Why would you? I mean they always emphasize that everything is for testing and nothing is final. If it clearly doesn't work well then reverting it is normal.
On September 18 2015 19:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 18 2015 19:51 Thouhastmail wrote: G`day, DK! See those MULEs?
Yup, aren't you glad that DK and them decided that that was a thing that needed to be put back into the game?
I was utterly shocked at the reintroduction of HotS Mules
Why would you? I mean they always emphasize that everything is for testing and nothing is final. If it clearly doesn't work well then reverting it is normal.
There was 0 indication that it wasn't working well. And even if it wasn't, we're reverting to something that already doesn't work well. There was no reason at all to bring back the MULE hammer
On September 18 2015 19:50 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Rogue is playing so bad it makes my head spin. Wtf is he thinking?
RO8 + team kill. Team kills are almost always bad.
Team kill doesn't excuse sacking 9 ultras in a nydus for absolutely nothing. He's playing awful
I hereby invite you to watch sOs vs Soulkey from WCS Korea 2013 Season 1 Ro4. If the concept of horrible play in teamkill matches is new to you, you are in dire need of
On September 18 2015 19:55 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 18 2015 19:54 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 18 2015 19:50 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Rogue is playing so bad it makes my head spin. Wtf is he thinking?
RO8 + team kill. Team kills are almost always bad.
Team kill doesn't excuse sacking 9 ultras in a nydus for absolutely nothing. He's playing awful
I hereby invite you to watch sOs vs Soulkey from WCS Korea 2013 Season 1 Ro4. If the concept of horrible play in teamkill matches is new to you, you are in dire need of
idk something but watch that series
Hahahaha I fucking loved that series :D This was the season that made me an sOs fan.
Those pictures make me wonder if they asked Maru and Rogue for one picture where they look happy and one where they look sad so they are prepared for either outcome
On September 18 2015 20:21 ScienceRob wrote: Looking at Terran wins this year... Mules don't seem that imbalanced to me.
There's a difference between balance and design. While Terran as a whole isn't inherently imbalanced, the fact that MULES give such a high amount of comeback potential like that is simply bad design
Yo you fools that come at LR threads! I love it, highest level of plays in the world, only 16 pages so far, everything is in order.
Since the day I peed next to Innovation in the GomTV's restrooms (GSL 2014 S3 Ro16, Group C, amazing hold vs PartinG), I know what is true power, and I bet he will win today
Edit : Fuck, I just realized that the reason I greet people with "Yo, you fools" actually comes from Starcraft... and it's from the Hydraroach thread...
On September 18 2015 20:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm shocked more people aren't really sad that Maru won that last game. The comeback potential for Terran ludicrously high compared to the other races
On September 18 2015 20:36 Jer99 wrote: Still waiting for a Zerg player to use all the tools at their disposal, and not play like they're born of incest
Yes non-zerg players have the best insight on playing zerg.
On September 18 2015 20:36 Jer99 wrote: Still waiting for a Zerg player to use all the tools at their disposal, and not play like they're born of incest
Yes non-zerg players have the best insight on playing zerg.
It's the same as Terran saying Protoss is a-move race. Deal with it the same way we dealt with that.
On September 18 2015 20:36 Jer99 wrote: Still waiting for a Zerg player to use all the tools at their disposal, and not play like they're born of insects
On September 18 2015 20:36 Jer99 wrote: Still waiting for a Zerg player to use all the tools at their disposal, and not play like they're born of incest
Yes non-zerg players have the best insight on playing zerg.
It's the same as Terran saying Protoss is a-move race. Deal with it the same way we dealt with that.
Yes you dealt with that great. The biggest whines of all sc2 never happened.
On September 18 2015 20:36 Jer99 wrote: Still waiting for a Zerg player to use all the tools at their disposal, and not play like they're born of incest
Yes non-zerg players have the best insight on playing zerg.
It's the same as Terran saying Protoss is a-move race. Deal with it the same way we dealt with that.
Yes you dealt with that great. The biggest whines of all sc2 never happened.
Exactly! The same way you are dealing with that critique
come on guys, if mules were so overpowered, Terran players should have been ripping leagues and tourneys apart for some time, but fact is most T players not named Innovation or Maru have been knocked out of tourney after tourney by Z and P players for months.
Could we get a hype as fuck Maru vs INno rematch? Where Maru shows why he has INnos number or INno finally redeems himself and gets revenge? Yes pls now lose Zest.
Why does no terran instant scv all in after killing the blink rush?Worked out either way this time, but sometimes seems to end up in giving the protoss to much time to get to AOE and to have a shot.
On September 18 2015 21:14 GumBa wrote: Could we get a hype as fuck Maru vs INno rematch? Where Maru shows why he has INnos number or INno finally redeems himself and gets revenge? Yes pls now lose Zest.
On September 18 2015 21:14 GumBa wrote: Could we get a hype as fuck Maru vs INno rematch? Where Maru shows why he has INnos number or INno finally redeems himself and gets revenge? Yes pls now lose Zest.
On September 18 2015 21:13 Lyyna wrote: missed game 2 - can someone tell me what happened ?
Zest went blink all in. Inno had 3 mines denying a blink into base so Zest was stuck outside to long. Eventually stim complete with only losing like 15SCVs and mining time. Zest miles behind. Before Inno eventually pushes out with Zest finally getting a 2nd base up. Zest forces a base trade in which Inno comfortably wins after trapping zest weak army in his base with sim city building blocking making a choke.
Yes, that drilling rush - I met it on the ladder a month ago(+-) and it almost killed me. Thank god I somehow saved most of the probes and units. I don't understand how I did it, IMO pure luck It's a bad build that should be banned (I actually didn't see the game, I caught only the GG in the end, so not sure what were they mentioning)
On September 18 2015 21:14 GumBa wrote: Could we get a hype as fuck Maru vs INno rematch? Where Maru shows why he has INnos number or INno finally redeems himself and gets revenge? Yes pls now lose Zest.
Bogus hasn't won yet. He also has a history of choking so I'm staying on my toes. If he does win, I hope Maru finally breaks out of the ro4.
On September 18 2015 21:14 GumBa wrote: Could we get a hype as fuck Maru vs INno rematch? Where Maru shows why he has INnos number or INno finally redeems himself and gets revenge? Yes pls now lose Zest.
Bogus hasn't won yet. He also has a history of choking so I'm staying on my toes. If he does win, I hope Maru finally breaks out of the ro4.
the msc really makes this too hard to deal with. that is why everyone uses this crap on the ladder. you dont need a robo, you are safe vs most early agression the terran has and you have the potential to kill
On September 18 2015 21:21 GumBa wrote: So is Zest just gonna channel 2013 and just blink allin INno constantly?
he should either all in or fake an all-in like sOs does.
So he should channel his inner sOs? Or become sOs himself! I approve! Give us ridiculous builds that are supposed to not work and show us the proper way!
On September 18 2015 21:22 graNite wrote: the msc really makes this too hard to deal with. that is why everyone uses this crap on the ladder. you dont need a robo, you are safe vs most early agression the terran has and you have the potential to kill
On September 18 2015 21:22 graNite wrote: the msc really makes this too hard to deal with. that is why everyone uses this crap on the ladder. you dont need a robo, you are safe vs most early agression the terran has and you have the potential to kill
well that was still a greedy third from Inno.
Well he doesn't have OC overcharge, he can't be that greedy Anyway, this game cannot be about balance, Innovation was greedy that much, that Satan himself noticed.
It doesn't even matter who wins at this point. As long as Byul doesn't win the tournament, it's all good. That guy is one of the most overrated players I have seen. Wrecking-ByuL is such an inappropriate name for this guy.
On September 19 2015 02:08 swag_bro wrote: It doesn't even matter who wins at this point. As long as Byul doesn't win the tournament, it's all good. That guy is one of the most overrated players I have seen. Wrecking-ByuL is such an inappropriate name for this guy.
[QUOTE]On September 19 2015 11:49 TerranOwnsAll wrote: [QUOTE]On September 19 2015 11:46 TerranOwnsAll wrote: [QUOTE]On September 19 2015 06:28 [PkF] Wire wrote: [QUOTE]On September 19 2015 06:08 OtherWorld wrote: [QUOTE]On September 19 2015 05:54 [PkF] Wire wrote: [QUOTE]On September 19 2015 02:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Awesome, TvT semis between the two best Terrans of this expansion. [/QUOTE] that's great indeed. As much as I'm a Zest fan, I'm happy we have a T GSL finalist again. And the Maru vs INno semi is undeniably hype.[/QUOTE] Stomp stomp stomp stompity stomp. I don't see how this is hype ): [/QUOTE] Everyone predicted Zest stomping INno, we all know what happened. I'm pretty sure the match will be far better than the infamous 4-0.[/QUOTE]
Everyone predicting Zest to stomp Inno???? Look at the poll son, Zest 40, Inno 37. That's nearly 50%, not even close to everyone predicting for Zest haha. Maru/Rogue poll, now that's "everyone" predicting Maru to stomp!
Maru vs Dear would bring up very sweet memories indeed (that Frost game). I doubt Dear would be able to keep up in long games nowadays though, he'd probably go for the bullshit card.
3/4 of the final scenarios sound good to me. The only one that sounds terrible on paper is Dear vs Bogus. Bogus is just flat out boring in TvP.
ByuL vs Bogus is the best final possible imo. It's likely to be the most competitive and there are so many narratives to draw from it to add to the hype. It'd end HotS WCS in the same way it started as well, with Bogus once again taking on the best Zerg of the era and the only one able to stand against his TvZ.
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