Dear vs Classic Game 1 Dear vs Classic Game 2 Dear vs Classic Game 3 Dear vs Classic Game 4 Dear vs Classic Game 5 ByuL vs GuMiho Game 1 ByuL vs GuMiho Game 2 ByuL vs GuMiho Game 3 ByuL vs GuMiho Game 4 ByuL vs GuMiho Game 5
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
33%
★★★ - Good game (3)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 1 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 2 ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
5%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
14%
★★★ - Good game (2)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (11)
52%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (4)
19%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 2 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 3 ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
8%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
67%
★★★ - Good game (2)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 3 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 4 ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
8%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
58%
★★★ - Good game (4)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 4 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 5 ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
30%
★★★ - Good game (2)
20%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
30%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 5 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
13%
★★★ - Good game (7)
88%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 1 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 2 ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
15%
★★★ - Good game (8)
62%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
23%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 2 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 3 ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
27%
★★★ - Good game (7)
64%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
9%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 3 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 4 ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★ - Good game (3)
60%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 4 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 5 ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (3)
50%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
33%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 5 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Classic vs Dearin in GSL Code S Season 3 quarterfinals. Dear must win this match! Classic is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 58.68% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose. Dear is at 8.52% Blizzcon Chances, with a 41.32% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 20.63%, or 0% if they lose.
GuMiho vs ByuLin in GSL Code S Season 3 quarterfinals. GuMiho must win this match! ByuL has the #2 Headband. GuMiho is at 10.59% Blizzcon Chances, with a 48.87% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 21.32%, or 0.34% if they lose. ByuL is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 51.13% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose.
Rogue vs Maruin in GSL Code S Season 3 quarterfinals. Maru has the #4 Headband. Rogue is at 99.97% Blizzcon Chances, with a 48.04% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 99.99%, or 99.94% if they lose. Maru is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 51.96% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose.
INnoVation vs Zestin in GSL Code S Season 3 quarterfinals. Zest has the #3 Headband. INnoVation is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 63.79% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose. Zest is at 100% Blizzcon Chances, with a 36.21% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 100%, or 100% if they lose.
GuMiho and Dear must win this tournament! INnoVation has a 24.68% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Classic has a 14.33% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Maru has a 13.87% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. Zest has a 10.29% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. ByuL has a 10.23% chance to win ----going from 100% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they don't. GuMiho has a 9.68% chance to win ----going from 10.59% to 99.99% if they get 1st, or 1.01% if they don't. Rogue has a 8.84% chance to win ----going from 99.97% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.97% if they don't. Dear has a 8.08% chance to win ----going from 8.52% to 99.97% if they get 1st, or 0.49% if they don't.
Aw maaan! PvP... ok I can live with that. But PvP without Tastosis? When will they be back from Poland. What are they doing nowadays anyways? Almost no coverage from them anymore. The reason I started watching SC2 eSport Coverage and the onle ones that could get me going through 2014 (PvPvPvPvPvZ).
I am so tired of wolf, calling himself a SC2 expert, but having no clue about the game sometimes, misreading it so hard. He should go back commenting on ppls hair, he seemed to remember that better than build orders.
Also I am still mad at Flash for the last engagement vs Gumiho. I like both, but I would be more excited for a Flash game today.
What ever happened to Dear? I remember two years ago (?) he was he was looking like such a monster but then he almost disappeared. Did he have an injury or something?
On September 16 2015 18:48 Video2000 wrote: What ever happened to Dear? I remember two years ago (?) he was he was looking like such a monster but then he almost disappeared. Did he have an injury or something?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
33%
★★★ - Good game (3)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 1 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 16 2015 19:03 Nine Gates wrote: Nice idea to kill the Robos, but he should have killed the Cybernetics Core too. It was right in front of him.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
14%
★★★ - Good game (2)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (11)
52%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (4)
19%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 2 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
67%
★★★ - Good game (2)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 3 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 16 2015 19:17 Penev wrote: Classic needs some coaching after this game
Joke right?
Huh? no?
Classic is throwing hard
How can a quick chat fix throwing potential so quickly
Serious? That's what coaches are for
Dead serious. After a coach tells him to keep DT's in mind, chances are high that Dear will pull out another strat and the Classic falls to that. Then he needs coaching again, but alas, then it is too late.
On September 16 2015 19:17 Penev wrote: Classic needs some coaching after this game
Joke right?
Huh? no?
Classic is throwing hard
How can a quick chat fix throwing potential so quickly
Serious? That's what coaches are for
Dead serious. After a coach tells him to keep DT's in mind, chances are high that Dear will pull out another strat and the Classic falls to that. Then he needs coaching again, but alas, then it is too late.
It's not like Classic doesn't know that he should "keep DTs in mind" either. It's vital to PvP.
On September 16 2015 19:17 Penev wrote: Classic needs some coaching after this game
Joke right?
Huh? no?
Classic is throwing hard
How can a quick chat fix throwing potential so quickly
Serious? That's what coaches are for
Dead serious. After a coach tells him to keep DT's in mind, chances are high that Dear will pull out another strat and the Classic falls to that. Then he needs coaching again, but alas, then it is too late.
Who knows but responding to my initial post with "joking?" doesn't make any sense.
On September 16 2015 19:17 Penev wrote: Classic needs some coaching after this game
Joke right?
Huh? no?
Classic is throwing hard
How can a quick chat fix throwing potential so quickly
Serious? That's what coaches are for
Dead serious. After a coach tells him to keep DT's in mind, chances are high that Dear will pull out another strat and the Classic falls to that. Then he needs coaching again, but alas, then it is too late.
Who knows but responding to my initial post with "joking?" doesn't make any sense.
Same as it didn't make sense to respond in that way to my first post haha
On September 16 2015 19:17 Penev wrote: Classic needs some coaching after this game
Joke right?
Huh? no?
Classic is throwing hard
How can a quick chat fix throwing potential so quickly
Serious? That's what coaches are for
Dead serious. After a coach tells him to keep DT's in mind, chances are high that Dear will pull out another strat and the Classic falls to that. Then he needs coaching again, but alas, then it is too late.
Who knows but responding to my initial post with "joking?" doesn't make any sense.
Same as it didn't make sense to respond in that way to my first post haha
On September 16 2015 19:17 Penev wrote: Classic needs some coaching after this game
Joke right?
Huh? no?
Classic is throwing hard
How can a quick chat fix throwing potential so quickly
Serious? That's what coaches are for
Dead serious. After a coach tells him to keep DT's in mind, chances are high that Dear will pull out another strat and the Classic falls to that. Then he needs coaching again, but alas, then it is too late.
Who knows but responding to my initial post with "joking?" doesn't make any sense.
Same as it didn't make sense to respond in that way to my first post haha
Strange how Dear managed to build a DS, tech to Blink and build a Nexus, and not be overwhelmed by Classic's stalker advantage. Normally there should be a mini base trade-ish situation. Classic's superior stalker army should be enough to take out the Dear's Nexus and the game stabilised somewhat, but that didn't happen. Classic played poorly there.
On September 16 2015 19:29 RKC wrote: Strange how Dear managed to build a DS, tech to Blink and build a Nexus, and not be overwhelmed by Classic's stalker advantage. Normally there should be a mini base trade-ish situation. Classic's superior stalker army should be enough to take out the Dear's Nexus and the game stabilised somewhat, but that didn't happen. Classic played poorly there.
I really think he could have killed the nexus had he not backed away so early
On September 16 2015 19:17 Penev wrote: Classic needs some coaching after this game
Joke right?
Huh? no?
Classic is throwing hard
How can a quick chat fix throwing potential so quickly
Serious? That's what coaches are for
Dead serious. After a coach tells him to keep DT's in mind, chances are high that Dear will pull out another strat and the Classic falls to that. Then he needs coaching again, but alas, then it is too late.
Who knows but responding to my initial post with "joking?" doesn't make any sense.
Same as it didn't make sense to respond in that way to my first post haha
On September 16 2015 19:29 RKC wrote: Strange how Dear managed to build a DS, tech to Blink and build a Nexus, and not be overwhelmed by Classic's stalker advantage. Normally there should be a mini base trade-ish situation. Classic's superior stalker army should be enough to take out the Dear's Nexus and the game stabilised somewhat, but that didn't happen. Classic played poorly there.
Classic wasn't mining for a while, went for robo and double observers and blink himself. The actual difference isn't that huge and Classic was few hits away from killing the Nexus.
On September 16 2015 19:29 RKC wrote: Strange how Dear managed to build a DS, tech to Blink and build a Nexus, and not be overwhelmed by Classic's stalker advantage. Normally there should be a mini base trade-ish situation. Classic's superior stalker army should be enough to take out the Dear's Nexus and the game stabilised somewhat, but that didn't happen. Classic played poorly there.
I really think he could have killed the nexus had he not backed away so early
Yeah, just YOLO the stalkers in, even if they take damage from the Dear's few stalkers, overcharge and defensive DT. He would probably be behind anyway, but not as even more behind if he didn't kill the Nexus.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
58%
★★★ - Good game (4)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 4 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 5 ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
30%
★★★ - Good game (2)
20%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
30%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 5 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
58%
★★★ - Good game (4)
33%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 4 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 5 ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
30%
★★★ - Good game (2)
20%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
30%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dear vs Classic Game 5 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 16 2015 19:45 TheBumbleBee wrote: What happens if Gumiho gets 2nd? Both, Fantasy and gumiho, have then 2900 WCS Points? Who will go to the Global Finals? (ranked 16+17)
If it's like 2013, a Bo5 tiebreaker will be played between them.
On September 16 2015 19:45 TheBumbleBee wrote: What happens if Gumiho gets 2nd? Both, Fantasy and gumiho, have then 2900 WCS Points? Who will go to the Global Finals? (ranked 16+17)
There's even a possible 3 way tie!
When Revival and Nani was tied for 16th, they played a bo5 for the spot.
On September 16 2015 19:45 TheBumbleBee wrote: What happens if Gumiho gets 2nd? Both, Fantasy and gumiho, have then 2900 WCS Points? Who will go to the Global Finals? (ranked 16+17)
If they're even they'd do the tiebreaker match again like 2013 I guess. Unless they've changed it since then.
On September 16 2015 19:45 TheBumbleBee wrote: What happens if Gumiho gets 2nd? Both, Fantasy and gumiho, have then 2900 WCS Points? Who will go to the Global Finals? (ranked 16+17)
If it's like 2013, a Bo5 tiebreaker will be played between them.
Also don't forget that DreamHack Stockholm is still coming up - both could collect points there.
On September 16 2015 19:45 TheBumbleBee wrote: What happens if Gumiho gets 2nd? Both, Fantasy and gumiho, have then 2900 WCS Points? Who will go to the Global Finals? (ranked 16+17)
If they're even they'd do the tiebreaker match again like 2013 I guess. Unless they've changed it since then.
On September 16 2015 19:45 TheBumbleBee wrote: What happens if Gumiho gets 2nd? Both, Fantasy and gumiho, have then 2900 WCS Points? Who will go to the Global Finals? (ranked 16+17)
There's even a possible 3 way tie!
When Revival and Nani was tied for 16th, they played a bo5 for the spot.
On September 16 2015 19:45 TheBumbleBee wrote: What happens if Gumiho gets 2nd? Both, Fantasy and gumiho, have then 2900 WCS Points? Who will go to the Global Finals? (ranked 16+17)
There's even a possible 3 way tie!
When Revival and Nani was tied for 16th, they played a bo5 for the spot.
On September 16 2015 19:45 TheBumbleBee wrote: What happens if Gumiho gets 2nd? Both, Fantasy and gumiho, have then 2900 WCS Points? Who will go to the Global Finals? (ranked 16+17)
There's even a possible 3 way tie!
When Revival and Nani was tied for 16th, they played a bo5 for the spot.
On September 16 2015 19:45 TheBumbleBee wrote: What happens if Gumiho gets 2nd? Both, Fantasy and gumiho, have then 2900 WCS Points? Who will go to the Global Finals? (ranked 16+17)
There's even a possible 3 way tie!
When Revival and Nani was tied for 16th, they played a bo5 for the spot.
On September 16 2015 20:03 Tegenaria wrote: Cant wait !! I didn't watch live starcraft for years, only come back too see GuMiHo becoming a GSL champioo n GOGOGOGOGOG GuMiHo
Gumiho winning GSL would be nuts, after all this time lol
On September 16 2015 19:59 BlackCompany wrote: Oh wow Classic, what the hell. He is really having rough days lately.
I guess Classic wins a season 2 starleague, then looks bad between then and blizzcon, then pulls some surprise wins at blizzcon again.
I doubt Classic wins a starleague and Blizzcon is even less likely. But i would have never thought for him to get to the ro4 as well so what do i know haha
On September 16 2015 19:59 BlackCompany wrote: Oh wow Classic, what the hell. He is really having rough days lately.
I guess Classic wins a season 2 starleague, then looks bad between then and blizzcon, then pulls some surprise wins at blizzcon again.
I doubt Classic wins a starleague and Blizzcon is even less likely. But i would have never thought for him to get to the ro4 as well so what do i know haha
On September 16 2015 20:08 neutralrobot wrote: Man... Can I just say how bummed I am that we still don't have Tastosis back? Is there some kind of problem with them and Gom?
They cast the WCS finals on Sunday... Give them a break rofl
On September 16 2015 19:59 BlackCompany wrote: Oh wow Classic, what the hell. He is really having rough days lately.
I guess Classic wins a season 2 starleague, then looks bad between then and blizzcon, then pulls some surprise wins at blizzcon again.
I doubt Classic wins a starleague and Blizzcon is even less likely. But i would have never thought for him to get to the ro4 as well so what do i know haha
Classic has 2 Korean titles under his belt
Oh i know that, i was refering to the future (e.g. the up-coming Blizzon and starleagues this year)
On September 16 2015 19:59 BlackCompany wrote: Oh wow Classic, what the hell. He is really having rough days lately.
I guess Classic wins a season 2 starleague, then looks bad between then and blizzcon, then pulls some surprise wins at blizzcon again.
I doubt Classic wins a starleague and Blizzcon is even less likely. But i would have never thought for him to get to the ro4 as well so what do i know haha
Classic has 2 Korean titles under his belt
Oh i know that, i was refering to the future (e.g. the up-coming Blizzon and starleagues this year)
Ah k. Well you never know, these dudes are volatile as fuck
On September 16 2015 19:59 BlackCompany wrote: Oh wow Classic, what the hell. He is really having rough days lately.
I guess Classic wins a season 2 starleague, then looks bad between then and blizzcon, then pulls some surprise wins at blizzcon again.
I doubt Classic wins a starleague and Blizzcon is even less likely. But i would have never thought for him to get to the ro4 as well so what do i know haha
lol..I was talking about how Classic's 2014 and 2015 seasons seem parallel . he has some slump between winning season 2 and blizzcon, then he makes a deep run when we all least expect it.
On September 16 2015 20:16 Rollora wrote: It's not blind Wolf, he has seen the WM
God I hate that his only job is to read the game and comment on it and he fails so hard at it all the time
Ah well, they can't see all, as another example -> Valdez said that "Byul still needs to confirm if there is a second gas" - while he saw the first gas still being constructed and a factory that was ready. So there had to be a second gas.
On September 16 2015 20:16 Rollora wrote: It's not blind Wolf, he has seen the WM
God I hate that his only job is to read the game and comment on it and he fails so hard at it all the time
Ah well, they can't see all, as another example -> Valdez said that "Byul still needs to confirm if there is a second gas" - while he saw the first gas still being constructed and a factory that was ready. So there had to be a second gas.
It detracts a bit from the experience. But it's more interesting to watch the games with commentary than without any
On September 16 2015 20:16 Rollora wrote: It's not blind Wolf, he has seen the WM
God I hate that his only job is to read the game and comment on it and he fails so hard at it all the time
Ah well, they can't see all, as another example -> Valdez said that "Byul still needs to confirm if there is a second gas" - while he saw the first gas still being constructed and a factory that was ready. So there had to be a second gas.
both of them are extremely bad IMO, no clue about the game sometimes just stating what is so obvious. Not reading into it in any ways. Wolf often times stating that he basically can only play protoss cheese, that is how good his game understanding is.
I miss Moonglade, where is he, a Zerg is playing. I miss Tastosis
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
13%
★★★ - Good game (7)
88%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 1 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 16 2015 20:16 Rollora wrote: It's not blind Wolf, he has seen the WM
God I hate that his only job is to read the game and comment on it and he fails so hard at it all the time
Ah well, they can't see all, as another example -> Valdez said that "Byul still needs to confirm if there is a second gas" - while he saw the first gas still being constructed and a factory that was ready. So there had to be a second gas.
both of them are extremely bad IMO, no clue about the game sometimes just stating what is so obvious. Not reading into it in any ways. Wolf often times stating that he basically can only play protoss cheese, that is how good his game understanding is.
I miss Moonglade, where is he, a Zerg is playing. I miss Tastosis
Moonglade has bad calls too :-) And I think all of them are getting better.
Aside from Ty killing Byul with that timing attack in PL, when was the last time a Bio player beat a zerg in Korean level TvZ? Just seems like a waste of a map to go bio if your mech is much better.
Mass mutas is so strong, if you ever lose your army and don't have a Thor and some mines, the zerg can basically do whatever he wants. Ok I am pretty sure Flash would have done batter that game. So Gumi, show us that the right one advanced
On September 16 2015 20:16 Rollora wrote: It's not blind Wolf, he has seen the WM
God I hate that his only job is to read the game and comment on it and he fails so hard at it all the time
Ah well, they can't see all, as another example -> Valdez said that "Byul still needs to confirm if there is a second gas" - while he saw the first gas still being constructed and a factory that was ready. So there had to be a second gas.
both of them are extremely bad IMO, no clue about the game sometimes just stating what is so obvious. Not reading into it in any ways. Wolf often times stating that he basically can only play protoss cheese, that is how good his game understanding is.
I miss Moonglade, where is he, a Zerg is playing. I miss Tastosis
I'd take Valdez over Tasteless or Artosis every time
On September 16 2015 20:26 -YoricK- wrote: Aside from Ty killing Byul with that timing attack in PL, when was the last time a Bio player beat a zerg in Korean level TvZ? Just seems like a waste of a map to go bio if your mech is much better.
even Innovation looked like a fool playing bio against Byul what changed anyways? what did zergs get so much better at?
On September 16 2015 20:26 -YoricK- wrote: Aside from Ty killing Byul with that timing attack in PL, when was the last time a Bio player beat a zerg in Korean level TvZ? Just seems like a waste of a map to go bio if your mech is much better.
Dream got him in close-spawns on Cactus in an SPL game
On September 16 2015 20:16 Rollora wrote: It's not blind Wolf, he has seen the WM
God I hate that his only job is to read the game and comment on it and he fails so hard at it all the time
Ah well, they can't see all, as another example -> Valdez said that "Byul still needs to confirm if there is a second gas" - while he saw the first gas still being constructed and a factory that was ready. So there had to be a second gas.
both of them are extremely bad IMO, no clue about the game sometimes just stating what is so obvious. Not reading into it in any ways. Wolf often times stating that he basically can only play protoss cheese, that is how good his game understanding is.
I miss Moonglade, where is he, a Zerg is playing. I miss Tastosis
I'd take Valdez over Tasteless or Artosis every time
Tasteless - the king of generic statements - his army is at the production facilities of his terran opponent, this is bad!!!
On September 16 2015 20:26 -YoricK- wrote: Aside from Ty killing Byul with that timing attack in PL, when was the last time a Bio player beat a zerg in Korean level TvZ? Just seems like a waste of a map to go bio if your mech is much better.
even Innovation looked like a fool playing bio against Byul what changed anyways? what did zergs get so much better at?
On September 16 2015 20:26 Rollora wrote: Mass mutas is so strong, if you ever lose your army and don't have a Thor and some mines, the zerg can basically do whatever he wants. Ok I am pretty sure Flash would have done batter that game. So Gumi, show us that the right one advanced
pretty sure the only prepared bo5 we've seen Flash play in SC2 is Code A lol and SSL Challenger when he got stomped by Life
On September 16 2015 20:26 -YoricK- wrote: Aside from Ty killing Byul with that timing attack in PL, when was the last time a Bio player beat a zerg in Korean level TvZ? Just seems like a waste of a map to go bio if your mech is much better.
even Innovation looked like a fool playing bio against Byul what changed anyways? what did zergs get so much better at?
No idea, it's weird. Used to be that Zerg got killed loads of times with the 3/3 parade push against 2/2
On September 16 2015 20:26 -YoricK- wrote: Aside from Ty killing Byul with that timing attack in PL, when was the last time a Bio player beat a zerg in Korean level TvZ? Just seems like a waste of a map to go bio if your mech is much better.
even Innovation looked like a fool playing bio against Byul what changed anyways? what did zergs get so much better at?
On September 16 2015 20:16 Rollora wrote: It's not blind Wolf, he has seen the WM
God I hate that his only job is to read the game and comment on it and he fails so hard at it all the time
Ah well, they can't see all, as another example -> Valdez said that "Byul still needs to confirm if there is a second gas" - while he saw the first gas still being constructed and a factory that was ready. So there had to be a second gas.
both of them are extremely bad IMO, no clue about the game sometimes just stating what is so obvious. Not reading into it in any ways. Wolf often times stating that he basically can only play protoss cheese, that is how good his game understanding is.
I miss Moonglade, where is he, a Zerg is playing. I miss Tastosis
Moonglade has bad calls too :-) And I think all of them are getting better.
But MoonMoon does a way better job at explaining what happens in the game (not on the screen, but in the game) and in the head of the players. The thinking and decision process. And also he adds when he isn't sure, while Wolf always says his things as if it is a fact and that is, when he is obviously misreading a situation. And no, I don't think they are getting better. I especially watch Wolf making these mistakes ever since his very first cast. It also bugs me, that he always explains the game as if I just started playing SC2. This is the GSL, it has only a few viewers and that is because 99% of them know what they are dealing with and want to see the best of the best, not some SC2 firsttimers
On September 16 2015 20:26 -YoricK- wrote: Aside from Ty killing Byul with that timing attack in PL, when was the last time a Bio player beat a zerg in Korean level TvZ? Just seems like a waste of a map to go bio if your mech is much better.
even Innovation looked like a fool playing bio against Byul what changed anyways? what did zergs get so much better at?
From what I see, it's mostly that Zergs are really really safe these days. It's really hard to kill them with Hellbat timings for example, compared to before. Also, they've been going 2 base mutas (while producing a lot of queens to be safe vs hellbats) in most of their game, and while it delays their upgrades, it gives them A LOT of map control and denies the Terran's map control, so they can play greedy after a not so greedy opening. The additional queens can also spread creep once the hellbat threat is gone, making fights very easy. So mostly, Terrans have no way of putting pressure (or haven't found it yet) to zergs, and zergs play greedy while putting pressure on the Terran (with mutas)
On September 16 2015 20:16 Rollora wrote: It's not blind Wolf, he has seen the WM
God I hate that his only job is to read the game and comment on it and he fails so hard at it all the time
Ah well, they can't see all, as another example -> Valdez said that "Byul still needs to confirm if there is a second gas" - while he saw the first gas still being constructed and a factory that was ready. So there had to be a second gas.
both of them are extremely bad IMO, no clue about the game sometimes just stating what is so obvious. Not reading into it in any ways. Wolf often times stating that he basically can only play protoss cheese, that is how good his game understanding is.
I miss Moonglade, where is he, a Zerg is playing. I miss Tastosis
Moonglade has bad calls too :-) And I think all of them are getting better.
But MoonMoon does a way better job at explaining what happens in the game (not on the screen, but in the game) and in the head of the players. The thinking and decision process. And also he adds when he isn't sure, while Wolf always says his things as if it is a fact and that is, when he is obviously misreading a situation. And no, I don't think they are getting better. I especially watch Wolf making these mistakes ever since his very first cast. It also bugs me, that he always explains the game as if I just started playing SC2. This is the GSL, it has only a few viewers and that is because 99% of them know what they are dealing with and want to see the best of the best, not some SC2 firsttimers
If you focus on it you'll hear every little mistake, ruiining your viewing experience, hard to undo though. Maybe try and laugh about it?
On September 16 2015 20:26 -YoricK- wrote: Aside from Ty killing Byul with that timing attack in PL, when was the last time a Bio player beat a zerg in Korean level TvZ? Just seems like a waste of a map to go bio if your mech is much better.
even Innovation looked like a fool playing bio against Byul what changed anyways? what did zergs get so much better at?
From what I see, it's mostly that Zergs are really really safe these days. It's really hard to kill them with Hellbat timings for example, compared to before. Also, they've been going 2 base mutas (while producing a lot of queens to be safe vs hellbats) in most of their game, and while it delays their upgrades, it gives them A LOT of map control and denies the Terran's map control, so they can play greedy after a not so greedy opening. The additional queens can also spread creep once the hellbat threat is gone, making fights very easy. So mostly, Terrans have no way of putting pressure (or haven't found it yet) to zergs, and zergs play greedy while putting pressure on the Terran (with mutas)
On September 16 2015 20:16 Rollora wrote: It's not blind Wolf, he has seen the WM
God I hate that his only job is to read the game and comment on it and he fails so hard at it all the time
Ah well, they can't see all, as another example -> Valdez said that "Byul still needs to confirm if there is a second gas" - while he saw the first gas still being constructed and a factory that was ready. So there had to be a second gas.
both of them are extremely bad IMO, no clue about the game sometimes just stating what is so obvious. Not reading into it in any ways. Wolf often times stating that he basically can only play protoss cheese, that is how good his game understanding is.
I miss Moonglade, where is he, a Zerg is playing. I miss Tastosis
Moonglade has bad calls too :-) And I think all of them are getting better.
But MoonMoon does a way better job at explaining what happens in the game (not on the screen, but in the game) and in the head of the players. The thinking and decision process. And also he adds when he isn't sure, while Wolf always says his things as if it is a fact and that is, when he is obviously misreading a situation. And no, I don't think they are getting better. I especially watch Wolf making these mistakes ever since his very first cast. It also bugs me, that he always explains the game as if I just started playing SC2. This is the GSL, it has only a few viewers and that is because 99% of them know what they are dealing with and want to see the best of the best, not some SC2 firsttimers
If you focus on it you'll hear every little mistake, ruiining your viewing experience, hard to undo though. Maybe try and laugh about it?
I will try to. Nice Tip. But it still may bug me since I'd rather hve someone cast the game that has a clue.
On September 16 2015 20:36 Video2000 wrote: how does wolf like gumihos position in this game? wtf??
it is his constant misreads and not understanding how TvZ works. Or the game in general. Watch all the latest games of him, and everytime before a big fight he says "I like his position..." only that "his" position was far worse and it was a losing, game ending fight.
Or maybe he meant the map, since its one Gumiho really likes with mech
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
15%
★★★ - Good game (8)
62%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
23%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 2 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 16 2015 20:16 Rollora wrote: It's not blind Wolf, he has seen the WM
God I hate that his only job is to read the game and comment on it and he fails so hard at it all the time
Ah well, they can't see all, as another example -> Valdez said that "Byul still needs to confirm if there is a second gas" - while he saw the first gas still being constructed and a factory that was ready. So there had to be a second gas.
both of them are extremely bad IMO, no clue about the game sometimes just stating what is so obvious. Not reading into it in any ways. Wolf often times stating that he basically can only play protoss cheese, that is how good his game understanding is.
I miss Moonglade, where is he, a Zerg is playing. I miss Tastosis
Moonglade has bad calls too :-) And I think all of them are getting better.
But MoonMoon does a way better job at explaining what happens in the game (not on the screen, but in the game) and in the head of the players. The thinking and decision process. And also he adds when he isn't sure, while Wolf always says his things as if it is a fact and that is, when he is obviously misreading a situation. And no, I don't think they are getting better. I especially watch Wolf making these mistakes ever since his very first cast. It also bugs me, that he always explains the game as if I just started playing SC2. This is the GSL, it has only a few viewers and that is because 99% of them know what they are dealing with and want to see the best of the best, not some SC2 firsttimers
Oh c'mon, some of his calls about Protoss made him look worse than Wolf. Just get over it and smile
I think there are worse casters than these. Also I don't want to go there. So we can agree we don't agree
On September 16 2015 20:45 Die4Ever wrote: so should Gumiho have just pulled back after roasting all those hydras?
I think he was dead no matter what tbh. Feels like the queen-roach opening ByuL did is a great counter vs the passive mech opening of Gumiho (no big hellion-banshee play). Nice bo choice.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
27%
★★★ - Good game (7)
64%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
9%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 3 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 4 ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★ - Good game (3)
60%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 4 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 5 ?
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (3)
50%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
33%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs GuMiho Game 5 ?
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
What is this new joke "Flash should have advanced, the series would have been so much better"? Is it because Wolf thinks Flash is at his absolute peak atm? I dont get it :/
On September 16 2015 21:05 Video2000 wrote: What is this new joke "Flash should have advanced, the series would have been so much better"? Is it because Wolf thinks Flash is at his absolute peak atm? I dont get it :/
IMO if Flash advanced he would have took 3 hours longer to lose, with his great wall of missile turrets
On September 16 2015 21:05 Video2000 wrote: What is this new joke "Flash should have advanced, the series would have been so much better"? Is it because Wolf thinks Flash is at his absolute peak atm? I dont get it :/
tbh I dont thing current Flash would have lost 0-3
And Flash being at his peak was such a moment, when the other caster made a pause cause he obviously wanted to say "just stfu wolf"
Gumiho's 2 5 orbital commands into 3base timing attack makes no fucking sense. If you want to go for a timing attack, then invest those minerals into Hellbats and go for a faster attack. If you want to get 5 orbital commands, you should just turtle.
On September 16 2015 21:05 Video2000 wrote: What is this new joke "Flash should have advanced, the series would have been so much better"? Is it because Wolf thinks Flash is at his absolute peak atm? I dont get it :/
tbh I dont thing current Flash would have lost 0-3
Yes but would you have thought that Gumiho would lose 0-3?
On September 16 2015 21:05 Video2000 wrote: What is this new joke "Flash should have advanced, the series would have been so much better"? Is it because Wolf thinks Flash is at his absolute peak atm? I dont get it :/
IMO if Flash advanced he would have took 3 hours longer to lose, with his great wall of missile turrets
Men raise depots to wall off their bases. God builds turrets.
On September 16 2015 21:05 Video2000 wrote: What is this new joke "Flash should have advanced, the series would have been so much better"? Is it because Wolf thinks Flash is at his absolute peak atm? I dont get it :/
tbh I dont thing current Flash would have lost 0-3
Yes but would you have thought that Gumiho would lose 0-3?
I expected it somehow. Gumihow is a guy who surprises with builds sometimes but not with game control. He is often times very sloppy, I wondered how he could advance over flash, but then again this was flash throwing the game(3) and a BO loss in game 1.
On September 16 2015 21:05 Video2000 wrote: What is this new joke "Flash should have advanced, the series would have been so much better"? Is it because Wolf thinks Flash is at his absolute peak atm? I dont get it :/
tbh I dont thing current Flash would have lost 0-3
Yes but would you have thought that Gumiho would lose 0-3?
I expected it somehow. Gumihow is a guy who surprises with builds sometimes but not with game control. He is often times very sloppy, I wondered how he could advance over flash, but then again this was flash throwing the game(3) and a BO loss in game 1.
Precisely, what we saw in Gumiho's games against Flash was that he had a better "game control" than Flash.
On September 16 2015 21:05 Video2000 wrote: What is this new joke "Flash should have advanced, the series would have been so much better"? Is it because Wolf thinks Flash is at his absolute peak atm? I dont get it :/
tbh I dont thing current Flash would have lost 0-3
Yes but would you have thought that Gumiho would lose 0-3?
I expected it somehow. Gumihow is a guy who surprises with builds sometimes but not with game control. He is often times very sloppy, I wondered how he could advance over flash, but then again this was flash throwing the game(3) and a BO loss in game 1.
I agree. Gumiho is good at throwing opponents off with wacky builds, but his overall play is not solid. Inno, TY, Dream and Maru are all solid players - yes, they may die due to silliness and stubbornness at times, but in the long run, they'll still win more games against top players than Gumiho ever will.
Flash, to a lesser extent, is solid. And his overall results are historically slightly better than Gumiho (winning IEM and SPL record). But on current form, they are probably very close in terms of performance. I won't give any player the edge, but will raise an eyebrow if anyone says that Gumiho is by far the superior player between the two.
On September 16 2015 21:10 Die4Ever wrote: did this song just tell me to go to sleep? good advice lol
First update your site!
well the triple tie breaker dream is dead lol, but Lilbow isn't 100% yet, Dear, Fantasy, sOs, and Rogue can still pass him in about a 1 in a million chance lol
I've a feeling, though, that Dear will give Byul a tough fight. From today's and his last few games, he's prone to try out novel builds and play a lot of mind games. Byul is more than capable in handling Protoss bullshit of course, but he won't have the luxury messing up the heads of solid players. I expect a pretty wonky battle. Could even be a total beating by either one.
On September 16 2015 21:10 Die4Ever wrote: did this song just tell me to go to sleep? good advice lol
First update your site!
well the triple tie breaker dream is dead lol, but Lilbow isn't 100% yet, Dear, Fantasy, sOs, and Rogue can still pass him in about a 1 in a million chance lol
So, with the logic of Sir Terry (Pratchett) I think it will happen (I think this was mentioned in the book Guard! Guards!)
On September 16 2015 20:50 Rollora wrote: hope it won't be a 3-0, or I am really mad at Flash for not advancing, he would have done better, he seems to be pretty good again recently
Flash is cursed in GSL. Watching his games against Bogus and Gumiho you really have to question logic and reason itself. It's a very sad story.
On September 16 2015 21:27 RKC wrote: I've a feeling, though, that Dear will give Byul a tough fight. From today's and his last few games, he's prone to try out novel builds and play a lot of mind games. Byul is more than capable in handling Protoss bullshit of course, but he won't have the luxury messing up the heads of solid players. I expect a pretty wonky battle. Could even be a total beating by either one.
The fatigue of ByuL still being playing in the two leagues can play a role also.
Dear scrappily tearing his way through hard opponents, is he going to pull a 2013 again ?
ByuL convincingly showing he belongs to the best players of the planet atm. He'll be a tough opponent for Dear especially if he wins S2SL, momentum can make you do incredible things in SC2.
I also picked both of these guys to win. Stoked. The only reason I went with Dear is because of Classic's poor form against Zest and the vast amounts of tape out there because of the insane amount of PvP's he has played in the last few months.
I was impressed with Dear's play other than a couple strange decisions. That last game where he had all the stalkers was sick.
On September 16 2015 21:05 Video2000 wrote: What is this new joke "Flash should have advanced, the series would have been so much better"? Is it because Wolf thinks Flash is at his absolute peak atm? I dont get it :/
tbh I dont thing current Flash would have lost 0-3
Yes but would you have thought that Gumiho would lose 0-3?
I expected it somehow. Gumihow is a guy who surprises with builds sometimes but not with game control. He is often times very sloppy, I wondered how he could advance over flash, but then again this was flash throwing the game(3) and a BO loss in game 1.
Precisely, what we saw in Gumiho's games against Flash was that he had a better "game control" than Flash.
aha? Did you see other games? In Game 1 he made a game winning early attack (which I meant with openers/builds), in Game 2 Flash controled the game and won, in Game 3 it was sloppy from both, noone controlling since flash constantly made it possible to drop and do damage to Gumiho. Losing the final battle was a bit stupid
On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote: was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ?
The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general. Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army. In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats.
On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote: was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ?
The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general. Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army. In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats.
Yeah, that last game was just damn good, where Byul floated resources and waited before committing his supply to mutas (a strategic style similar to Zest - people mock him for floating resources, but he's intelligently waiting to build the right composition). Then there was a game where he nydus contained Gumiho's 3rd and spread creep right at the Terran doorstep - utterly brilliant.
Overall, Byul was solid all round, and Gumiho just fell apart without putting up much of a fight worthy of (supposedly) the world's best meching Terran
On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote: was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ?
The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general. Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army. In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats.
Yeah, that last game was just damn good, where Byul floated resources and waited before committing his supply to mutas (a strategic style similar to Zest - people mock him for floating resources, but he's intelligently waiting to build the right composition). Then there was a game where he nydus contained Gumiho's 3rd and spread creep right at the Terran doorstep - utterly brilliant.
Overall, Byul was solid all round, and Gumiho just fell apart without putting up much of a fight worthy of (supposedly) the world's best meching Terran
I think Gumiho came to the series with a build where he quickly builds two additional CCs that apparently wasn't suited at all to counter ByuL's builds. Sometimes, the metagame is a difficult science.
On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote: was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ?
The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general. Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army. In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats.
Yeah, that last game was just damn good, where Byul floated resources and waited before committing his supply to mutas (a strategic style similar to Zest - people mock him for floating resources, but he's intelligently waiting to build the right composition). Then there was a game where he nydus contained Gumiho's 3rd and spread creep right at the Terran doorstep - utterly brilliant.
Overall, Byul was solid all round, and Gumiho just fell apart without putting up much of a fight worthy of (supposedly) the world's best meching Terran
I think Gumiho came to the series with a build where he quickly builds two additional CCs that apparently wasn't suited at all to counter ByuL's builds. Sometimes, the metagame is a difficult science.
Going fast 3cc against Byul has nothing to do with metagame. It's just being stupid, Byul is the new Life. He will punish greed
On September 17 2015 01:46 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Gumiho Beat Flash and lose Byul 0-3!!?
Even lose 2-3 I will not feel so bad , but 0-3!!?!?!?!?!?
Flash threw that series away with a combination of unluckiness and stubbornness. There is no doubt that he would have a much better shot at beating ByuL. Anyways. There is a new tournament he plays in in a few weeks so be prepared for the next journey of the Flash hype train. It never stops. I for sure am getting ready.
On September 17 2015 01:46 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Gumiho Beat Flash and lose Byul 0-3!!?
Even lose 2-3 I will not feel so bad , but 0-3!!?!?!?!?!?
Flash threw that series away with a combination of unluckiness and stubbornness. There is no doubt that he would have a much better shot at beating ByuL. Anyways. There is a new tournament he plays in in a few weeks so be prepared for the next journey of the Flash hype train. It never stops. I for sure am getting ready.
Flash having a better shot vs Byul than Gumiho? hahahaha
On September 17 2015 00:49 Makro wrote: was gumiho bad or byul really good ? (or both) ?
The early game defense of ByuL was good. I liked his deflection of early drops with good positioning of 3 or 4 queens targeting medivacs before it could actually drop anything. It goes with a good scouting and knowledge about where drops are landing in general. Then ByuL made good choices of unit composition against mech and even delayed the production of units as much as possible to make it impossible for the mech terran to tailor its army. In one game, ByuL was waiting on 130 supply against a maxed out terran before building ≈ 30 mutalisks. Killed almost efficiently the thors and vikings before wrecking the tanks and hellbats.
Yeah, that last game was just damn good, where Byul floated resources and waited before committing his supply to mutas (a strategic style similar to Zest - people mock him for floating resources, but he's intelligently waiting to build the right composition). Then there was a game where he nydus contained Gumiho's 3rd and spread creep right at the Terran doorstep - utterly brilliant.
Overall, Byul was solid all round, and Gumiho just fell apart without putting up much of a fight worthy of (supposedly) the world's best meching Terran
I think Gumiho came to the series with a build where he quickly builds two additional CCs that apparently wasn't suited at all to counter ByuL's builds. Sometimes, the metagame is a difficult science.
Going fast 3cc against Byul has nothing to do with metagame. It's just being stupid, Byul is the new Life. He will punish greed
It was fast 5cc. In game it didn't feel like ByuL was punishing greed, since Gumiho was more the offensive player. But obviously the build choice didn't work for Gumiho. Maybe it was just stupid maybe it was really a midgamey metagamey thing that didn't work.
On September 17 2015 01:46 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Gumiho Beat Flash and lose Byul 0-3!!?
Even lose 2-3 I will not feel so bad , but 0-3!!?!?!?!?!?
Flash threw that series away with a combination of unluckiness and stubbornness. There is no doubt that he would have a much better shot at beating ByuL. Anyways. There is a new tournament he plays in in a few weeks so be prepared for the next journey of the Flash hype train. It never stops. I for sure am getting ready.
Flash having a better shot vs Byul than Gumiho? hahahaha
On September 17 2015 03:05 Yorkie wrote: God damn Byul is like Life season 1 levels of good right now.
I won't believe it until he shows up to the finals
ByuL has an awesome chance of proving himself this season. If he can ride some momentum with a S2SL victory, he could very well be unstoppable. I think that guy deserves it, such a hard working and humble player.
On September 17 2015 01:46 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Gumiho Beat Flash and lose Byul 0-3!!?
Even lose 2-3 I will not feel so bad , but 0-3!!?!?!?!?!?
Flash threw that series away with a combination of unluckiness and stubbornness. There is no doubt that he would have a much better shot at beating ByuL. Anyways. There is a new tournament he plays in in a few weeks so be prepared for the next journey of the Flash hype train. It never stops. I for sure am getting ready.
Flash having a better shot vs Byul than Gumiho? hahahaha
Did you watch Gumiho today?
Gumiho was on a 24-4 run vs Korean Z's going into this set. I'm a massive flash fan but there's no way in hell he had "a much better shot"
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